Fun Speculation

[jibsey]

Who can get us the best talent? That’s it in a nutshell.

 

[intlzncster]

There better be a much much better option for a hire than these guys if we are firing Ollie who’s winning percentage is higher in more difficult conferences...

The grass is not greener regarding these guys.. NEXT.

AD better find a real coach !!!

When you are talking about building or restoring a program, the overall winning % is obviously going to be lower. Take a look at the trend of winning percentage by year. That's more important.

And who are these better options anway?

 

[BLUEDOGHOUSE]

The reason the fanbase is on him is because he’s been rumored to want/have interest in the job for the past year.

ShotQuality

 

[intlzncster]

ShotQuality

UCONN ranks #320 in effective FG%. You gotta be kidding me.

Defensively 183. Actually not good.

 

[gtcam]

Kevin Ollie

Connecticut Huskies (Big East Conference) (2012–2013)
2012–13 Connecticut 20–10 10–8 T–7th Ineligible
Connecticut Huskies (American Athletic Conference) (2013–present)
2013–14 Connecticut 32–8 12–6 T–3rd NCAA Champions
2014–15 Connecticut 20–15 10–8 T–5th NIT First Round
2015–16 Connecticut 25–11 11–7 6th NCAA Second Round
2016–17 Connecticut 16–17 9–9 T–5th
2017–18 Connecticut 14–16 7–10
Connecticut: 127–77 (.623) 59–48 (.551)

There are plenty of programs and coaches who would like to have those winning percentages - including URIne and Hurley
I know the last 2 years and what have you done for me lately
.623 overall - hell KO can walk away with his head high - there are HoFers who don't come close
To be honest I knew he was above .500 but that opened my eyes

Hurley has been at URI longer and only 1 NCAA appearance????

I hope, for his sake, KO does leave - he'll find another gig in the NBA but I am not in any way fashion or shape convinced Hurley is the man

 

[intlzncster]

Kevin Ollie

Connecticut Huskies (Big East Conference) (2012–2013)
2012–13 Connecticut 20–10 10–8 T–7th Ineligible
Connecticut Huskies (American Athletic Conference) (2013–present)
2013–14 Connecticut 32–8 12–6 T–3rd NCAA Champions
2014–15 Connecticut 20–15 10–8 T–5th NIT First Round
2015–16 Connecticut 25–11 11–7 6th NCAA Second Round
2016–17 Connecticut 16–17 9–9 T–5th
2017–18 Connecticut 14–16 7–10
Connecticut: 127–77 (.623) 59–48 (.551)

There are plenty of programs and coaches who would like to have those winning percentages - including URIne and Hurley
I know the last 2 years and what have you done for me lately
.623 overall - hell KO can walk away with his head high - there are HoFers who don't come close
To be honest I knew he was above .500 but that opened my eyes

Hurley has been at URI longer and only 1 NCAA appearance????

I hope, for his sake, KO does leave - he'll find another gig in the NBA but I am not in any way fashion or shape convinced Hurley is the man

Big difference. First off, URI and UCONN are entirely different situations. URI isn't even expected to make the tournament every year. UCONN is expected to not just make, but do well in the Tournament annually.

Hurley was handed a pile of feces. And turned it around. KO was handed a relatively full cupboard. And has what he has at this point. Trend is contextually very important for both guys.

I don't even know if Hurley is the guy or not, but he's turned around multiple programs.

 

[Captbluefin]

Just silly.

Ok, let's look at the trend for KO:

Years 1 and 2 combined: 52-18

Years 3 and 4 combined: 45-26

Years 5 and 6 combined to date: 30-33

It is the trend that is concerning, not the overall winning percentage.

The point is that the AD better find a Coach that’s much better than what is being discussed.

Ollies years 1-4 are better than these candidates. year 5 was injuries. Year 6 had several band-aids from the transfers.

But 4 out of the 6 years here Ollie was a better coach. I thought the object was a serious upgrade not justva diffrent face in a suit.

 

[intlzncster]

The point is that the AD better find a Coach that’s much better than what is being discussed.

Ollies years 1-4 are better than these candidates. year 5 was injuries. Year 6 had several band-aids from the transfers.

But 4 out of the 6 years here Ollie was a better coach. I thought the object was a serious upgrade not justva diffrent face in a suit.

Trend and context are very important.

The only guys who are much better than what is being discussed are at established programs. We've no choice but to go for an up and comer.

 

[Edward Sargent]

Is it possible the fan base is willing Danny Hurley into the roll of our new head coach next year? We have no idea if Benedict is actually in talks with him, yet the narrative has become so mainstream it almost feels like it's going to happen because we have willed it into fruition. The AD is paid to make his own decisions but the input from the fan base is so overwhelmingly in favor of Hurley that AD Dave (probably) feels like he needs to acquiesce. I think his ass is on the hot seat- the pressure to please the fans is real. Give them what they want?

As a long time UCONN fan who lived in NJ for 25 years ita a little weird looking at a Hurley, the name we all thought to be hated by JC, a Seton Hall grad, nice kid the number of times I met him, tough point guard, but not the brother from Duke!

 

[Edward Sargent]

Jesus, you mean that that Northeastern team we lost to last season with a full roster didn't even finish .500 in the CAA? My goodness.

Not sure he can recruit at the AAC level!!

 

[Edward Sargent]

Jeff Capel - didn't light the world on fire at Oklahoma:

Season Team Overall Conference Standing Postseason
VCU Rams (Colonial Athletic Association) (2002–2006)
2002–03 VCU 18–10 12–6 T–2nd
2003–04 VCU 23–8 14–4 1st NCAA Round of 64
2004–05 VCU 19–13 13–5 T–2nd NIT Opening Round
2005–06 VCU 19–10 11–7 5th
VCU: 79–41 (.658) 50–22 (.694)
Oklahoma Sooners (Big 12 Conference) (2006–2011)
2006–07 Oklahoma 16–15 6–10 T–7th
2007–08 Oklahoma 23–12 9–7 T–4th NCAA Round of 32
2008–09 Oklahoma 30–6 13–3 2nd NCAA Elite Eight
2009–10 Oklahoma 0–18* 0–12* T-11th
2010–11 Oklahoma 14–18 5–11 8th
Oklahoma: 83–69* (.546) 33-43* (.434)

Plus, there was speculation that it might be related to media reports that Tiny Gallon had received an impermissible extra benefit from Merrill Lynch employee and this was confirmed when subsequently released phone records tied him and Taliaferro and the NCAA confirmed it was investigating. In August 2011, Oklahoma admitted that Taliaferro had committed 2 NCAA violations in the Gallon case; Capel was not implicated in the violations. Now he's associate head coach at Duke and we find out that the FBI is looking into that program. I'd definitely ask for an explanation and have a get out of jail free card inserted into his contract in the event that he's implicated in the Duke scandal (just feels good to type that.)
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Bill Coen - I'm not sure we capture lightening in a bottle again with an Northeastern coach. Record is meh:

Season Team Overall Conference Standing Postseason
Northeastern (Colonial Athletic Association) (2006–present)
2006–07 Northeastern 13–19 9–9 T–5th
2007–08 Northeastern 14–17 9–9 T–6th
2008–09 Northeastern 19–13 12–6 T–3rd CBI Quarterfinals
2009–10 Northeastern 20–13 14–4 2nd NIT First Round
2010–11 Northeastern 11–20 6–12 T–9th
2011–12 Northeastern 14–17 9–9 7th
2012–13 Northeastern 20–13 14-4 1st NIT First Round
2013–14 Northeastern 11–21 7–9 5th
2014–15 Northeastern 23–12 12–6 T–1st NCAA Second Round
2015–16 Northeastern 18–15 9–9 6th
2016–17 Northeastern 15–16 8–10 6th
2017–18 Northeastern 21–9 14-4 T-1st
Northeastern: 199–185 (.518) 123–91 (.575)​

Danny Hurley

Season Team Overall Conference Standing Postseason
Wagner Seahawks (Northeast Conference) (2010–2012)
2010–11 Wagner 13–17 9–9 6th
2011–12 Wagner 25–6 15–3 2nd
Wagner: 38–23 (.623) 24–12 (.667)
Rhode Island Rams (Atlantic 10 Conference) (2012–present)
2012–13 Rhode Island 8–21 3–13 T–14th
2013–14 Rhode Island 14–18 5–11 10th
2014–15 Rhode Island 23–10 13–5 T–2nd NIT Second Round
2015–16 Rhode Island 17–15 9–9 7th
2016–17 Rhode Island 25–10 13–5 T–3rd NCAA Round of 32
2017–18 Rhode Island 23-4 15-1 1st
Rhode Island: 109–78 (.576) 57–44 (.546)
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Kevin Ollie

Connecticut Huskies (Big East Conference) (2012–2013)
2012–13 Connecticut 20–10 10–8 T–7th Ineligible
Connecticut Huskies (American Athletic Conference) (2013–present)
2013–14 Connecticut 32–8 12–6 T–3rd NCAA Champions
2014–15 Connecticut 20–15 10–8 T–5th NIT First Round
2015–16 Connecticut 25–11 11–7 6th NCAA Second Round
2016–17 Connecticut 16–17 9–9 T–5th
2017–18 Connecticut 14–16 7–10
Connecticut: 127–77 (.623) 59–48 (.551) ​

KO has the best winning percentage of the four but his negative trend is killing him

 

[Captbluefin]

Trend and context are very important.

The only guys who are much better than what is being discussed are at established programs. We've no choice but to go for an up and comer.

That my friend is called “settling”.

We are now at the point where we have to take whatever is left at closing time?

Is the grass greener ???? The biggest question for the AD to answer or is it a new face....any new face??

 

[The Viking]

What’s the reason some people say Calhoun hates Hurley? What happened between the two?

 

[Kathy]

Take last year out and KO's percentages are even better. I know before you say it the 2 early losses before the injuries. No way you could predict how much those 3 players would have developed as the season wore on.

Despite 3 players out for the year we still tied for 5th and finished at .500 in conference. I doubt any of the 3 coaches mentioned could have achieved that.

 

[Huskybass]

Take last year out and KO's percentages are even better. I know before you say it the 2 early losses before the injuries. No way you could predict how much those 3 players would have developed as the season wore on.

Despite 3 players out for the year we still tied for 5th and finished at .500 in conference. I doubt any of the 3 coaches mentioned could have achieved that.

Oh, please. We have a much more complete roster this year and still have a losing record with 8 losses of 20 points or more.

 

[intlzncster]

That my friend is called “settling”.

We are now at the point where we have to take whatever is left at closing time?

Is the grass greener ???? The biggest question for the AD to answer or is it a new face....any new face??

I would consider 'settling' to be hiring a retread coach. Somebody who's had some success in D1, but usually fizzled.

Hiring an up and coming coach is the right move. I don't know why it's settling. Yes, you have to hope you get it right, but there's always risk.

Again, no idea if Hurley is the guy, but he has proven he deserves a solid D1 shot somewhere.

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

I think we definitely settled the last time we took an up and coming coach from a low-mid major school.

 

[Rappin'Rodney]

Although Rutgers has had a rough season resulting in last place in the B1G, watching Steve Pikiell coach his tail off to helping Rutgers overcome a 24-8 deficit against Indiana in the B1G tourney, I really wish he could find his way home someday.

 

[freescooter]

In evaluating these guys you have to consider not just records but where they compiled them. Northeastern for example probably plays 4-5 games s year where they have very little chance. Games against a national team on the road. This year they played at Stanford and at Ohio State for example. That’s 2 games where they had no chance and his program isn’t designed to have a chance against those teams. So to say Coen lost to 2 top 20 teams isn’t the same as saying UConn lost to 2 top 20 teams. Same with NCAA wins. If you coach in a one bid league for the most part avdeep run is the round of 32. If you coach at UConn it’s the Elite Eight. So again you can’t compare tournament wins by Northeastern with UConn. For one making the post season is the ultimate goal. For the other winning the tournament is.

I’m not advocating for Coen, by the way. Wouldn’t be my choice. Just using NU as an example. One guy starts the year realistically 3-4 games in the hole. The other shouldn’t.

 

[Austin316]

I'd take the guy at Vermont over either of Coen or Caple, without hesitation.

I would probly take Hurley over Becker but if it were between the 2 I would be happy

 

[freescooter]

Take last year out and KO's percentages are even better. I know before you say it the 2 early losses before the injuries. No way you could predict how much those 3 players would have developed as the season wore on.

Despite 3 players out for the year we still tied for 5th and finished at .500 in conference. I doubt any of the 3 coaches mentioned could have achieved that.

Take out that little issue with Lincoln and John Wilkes Booth was a better actor than many give him credit for. Good grief.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Although Rutgers has had a rough season resulting in last place in the B1G, watching Steve Pikiell coach his tail off to helping Rutgers overcome a 24-8 deficit against Indiana in the B1G tourney, I really wish he could find his way home someday.

No, no, no, no, no! Have we learned nothing about hiring alumni?! I loved him as a player and wish him all the best. We must have a coach that is disconnected from Calhoun to take us forward.

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

No, no, no, no, no! Have we learned nothing about hiring alumni?! I loved him as a player and wish him all the best. We must have a coach that is disconnected from Calhoun to take us forward.

Disagree, we shouldn't unilaterally exclude all alumni. Pikiell is a guy who has proven he has the desire to coach at the collegiate level and has done so for many years. That was always the legitimate knock against hiring KO.

 

[CL82]

Disagree, we shouldn't unilaterally exclude all alumni. Pikiell is a guy who has proven he has the desire to coach at the collegiate level and has done so for many years. That was always the legitimate knock against hiring KO.

Also just got a new contract with a bigger buyout, IIRC.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Disagree, we shouldn't unilaterally exclude all alumni. Pikiell is a guy who has proven he has the desire to coach at the collegiate level and has done so for many years. That was always the legitimate knock against hiring KO.

To clarify, I'm not saying ever, I'm saying now. The program needs a shakeup. It needs a new perspective, new ideas, new approaches. It needs somebody not from the UConn/Calhoun tree. If Pikiell succeeds at Rutgers and we need another new coach in 5-6+ years, ok. So far he hasn't done enough to be the guy here, and it's moot anyway, as he just extended his contract with Rutgers.