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Message: [QUOTE="HuskyHawk, post: 3451800, member: 1414"] Yeah, I still think he has value. Clearly Whaley could not begin to handle Vogt and Josh did a good job on him. He actually looks slimmer and a little more energetic lately and even hit that nice jumper. Unfortunately, his foul problems against Temple were brutal or he would have played more. He is missing layups like crazy after shooting 60% last year, and my only guess is that he's just taking different shots now. The main challenge with Josh is that he can't roam outside the paint and recover, which Hurley clearly wants his 5 to be able to do. So teams game plan against him, drag him out and exploit us at the rim. Akok helped prevent that some, and now we don't have any rim protection in that situation. Hurley is going to play the guy who is getting the job done based on the matchup we have. And he's going to value defense over offense. [/QUOTE]