FSU is Howling

[DoctorBombay]

http://www.theacc.com/genrel/090710aac.html

How can the ACC break from it's contract with ESPN? Just curious. This network has been in the works for 2 years.

Thats just it- it wouldn't be a clean break, but a collaboration w/ Raycom.
One of the reasons Swofford gave up the Tier 3 rights was supposedly because Raycom agreed to front all start-up costs for the ACC, for a split share of the network . ACC would have 50% of the network once its up & running, with ESPN & Raycom splitting the rest.
Thats right up there, & likely to even exceed the BTN $$$- lots more eyeballs on the East Coast.

 

[BG79]

We were considered a joke by real football programs when we played in a BCS bowl. We are considered that way because weve been playing division 1 football for about 2 weeks. I think we probably need a coaching change and hope that brings us a lot of wins but, rest assured, we will be considered a joke by the "big boys" for a long, long, long time even if we win a ton of games.

I think a lot of that lack of respect for a BCS bowl appearance came from an 8-4 record getting in due to being in a weak conference with an AQ status and then getting a butt whooping on a national stage. I would think that had the Huskies put on a better performance in that Fiesta Bowl things would be a bit different.

 

[Adios]

Thats just it- it wouldn't be a clean break, but a collaboration w/ Raycom.
One of the reasons Swofford gave up the Tier 3 rights was supposedly because Raycom agreed to front all start-up costs for the ACC, for a split share of the network . ACC would have 50% of the network once its up & running, with ESPN & Raycom splitting the rest.
Thats right up there, & likely to even exceed the BTN $$$- lots more eyeballs on the East Coast.

They need to hurry the up so that the whole ACC will be at peace. And then we can all laugh at UMD and Rutgers.

 

[BlueDogs]

FSU wants a National Championship in football. They believe that a weak ACC is holding them back (just 1 loss but only a 10 national ranking). They believe that any weak football program will stand in their way to the championship. Unlike Maryland and many other schools it's not about the money - it's about a National Championship - similar to Notre Dame. They perceive UConn football as trash. Also, like most of the Southern ACC schools they hate yankees - something you will learn in time. Louisville brings less to the table and its football is up now but don't count it lasting - but they are one thing - they ain't none of those dam yankees.

You hit it on the nose. They hate Yankees. Southern football is a cultural pride thing. We dilute the pool.

 

[Adios]

You hit it on the nose. They hate Yankees. Southern football is a cultural pride thing. We dilute the pool.

Ironically, "yankees" invented their sole source of entertainment.

 

[uconnfan68]

Ironically, "yankees" invented their sole source of entertainment.

cars or football?

 

[ASweet3781]

You hit it on the nose. They hate Yankees. Southern football is a cultural pride thing. We dilute the pool.

Florida State could be playing for a National Title this year. If they had beaten a mediocre NC State team that UConn should have beat. I guess it was our fault they blew it? If the ACC is so weak why can't they make it through a season without losing in conference? Looks like FSU is the one holding FSU back.

 

[Adios]

cars or football?

I guess "yankees" invented their only two sources of entertainment then.

 

[whaler11]

Florida State could be playing for a National Title this year. If they had beaten a mediocre NC State team that UConn should have beat. I guess it was our fault they blew it? If the ACC is so weak why can't they make it through a season without losing in conference? Looks like FSU is the one holding FSU back.

They could have. But Alabama, Oregon and Kansas State all lost too and Notre Dame survived twice by the grace of God and even Ohio State needed a miracle against Purdue.... so maybe it's hard to go undefeated, no matter who you are?

 

[Chin Diesel]

FSU can EAFD.* They're surrounded by SEC schos in every direction that are better than them. They literally have to drive theough SEC schools in every direction to get to an ACC school. And their fans, administration and alumni fuccckiinggg hate that. Unfortunately the Tallahassee market sucks and the rest of Florida is saturated with Florida, Georgia, Alabama and LSU fans. In most areas of the state FSU is #3. They hate what they are and wish they were more. But they are what they are.
*EAFD-Look it up on Urban Dictionary.

 

[whaler11]

Yeah FSU looks at UConn like we look at Temple and Memphis - so I'm only going to be so hurt by a rational reaction.

 

[NHUConnfan]

Come on guys, it's not that hard.

FSU wants Louisville because then they wouldn't be the worst academic school in the ACC. (FSU is last by a lot, if you haven't noticed)

 

[jbdphi]

Yeah FSU looks at UConn like we look at Temple and Memphis - so I'm only going to be so hurt by a rational reaction.

Exactly. All the crap people say here about Western Michigan or Buffalo or others? That's just a taste of how someone like an FSU feels about UConn.

 

[SubbaBub]

I base this on nothing but a hunch but if we're lucky enough to get into the ACC I think we'll be having these same uneasy feelings about our conference affiliation in a few years time.

Never before have our President and AD played such huge rolls in our future.

Perhaps, but I'd rather be riding around on a quarter of a tank than with the gauge on E and the low fuel light blinking.

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[mattp]

I think a lot of that lack of respect for a BCS bowl appearance came from an 8-4 record getting in due to being in a weak conference with an AQ status and then getting a butt whooping on a national stage. I would think that had the Huskies put on a better performance in that Fiesta Bowl things would be a bit different.

Exactly, people didn't respect us because we weren't ranked, plain and simple. If we were ranked #12-15 and got beat by 20, like VTech does almost every year, nobody would have minded us being there. If you're going to tell me you wouldn't complain about an unranked team from any other BCS conference playing in a BCS bowl than you're probably lying.

The good news is that FSU wouldn't be complaining about us going to the ACC if they didn't think it would happen.

 

[Bootsthemonkey]

You don't get national respect until you win a lot of games, you win big games and you belong to a power conference. Look at Boise - they've been getting it done for a decade now and people still want to make an argument that because they don't face a tough schedule week in and out (read: belong to power conference), they shouldn't be deserving of national title consideration regardless of record "sure they can win one big game but can they take a beating week in and out and survive?"

That's not my argument but you hear it over and over. UConn has been in D-1A (FBS) for a short period of time. They belong to what is considered a joke of a conference and have had a few winning seasons, won a few minor bowls and gotten blown out of their one BCS bowl with an offense that was tough to watch. The biggest wins to date are a win over a South Carolina team that was not competing for the SEC title, a mediocre Notre Dame team whose coach was about to be fired, and over a West Virginia team who was trying to set a turnover record in that game.

I like UConn. I root for them. I go to every home game. The program has come a long way since moving up but on the national scene it's still seen as irrelevant.

 

[J187Money]

Sorry- couldn't resist.

Is a croissant technically a roll?

 

[d1reality]

Others are claiming the FSU President is not averse, and he sees the big picture. FSU fans are howling, but not the President.

Odd thing is, none of these yokels have even bothered to look up Louisville's record and schedule in football.

The FSU people might want to also consider that UConn beat Maryland at Maryland this year. Your football is not going to get worse through UConn's inclusion. Nor will it improve by adding Louisville.

Maryland has the worst football record in the ACC the past 2 years. So Uconn needn't use that "impressive" 3 point victory as a yardstick.

My opinion is if FSU has a problem with the Huskies it is with the football aspect. They are 10-1 and not fairly ranked because of the perception of schedule - adding Uconn to that mix will not help that cause. On the other hand, the SEC has 2 winless teams in conference play, and they are a balanced conference???

 

[HuskyHawk]

Come on guys, it's not that hard.

FSU wants Louisville because then they wouldn't be the worst academic school in the ACC. (FSU is last by a lot, if you haven't noticed)

Wrong. NC State is last by a little over FSU.

 

[uconnell]

One of the Cuse insiders seems eerily calm about the whole situation & is keeping folks from the ledge.
Apparently, ESPN is in no mood to concede the ACC to Gordon Gecko, I mean, Delaney & the B1G.
Supposedly they are in serious talks w/ Raycom to pull together an ACC Network, and UConn is included in the plans.
Location location location...hey, it worked for Rutgers, right?

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I think Raycom is hooked up with NESN as I can watch ACC games and have ever since BC went to the ACC.

 

[d1reality]

Exactly, people didn't respect us because we weren't ranked, plain and simple. If we were ranked #12-15 and got beat by 20, like VTech does almost every year, nobody would have minded us being there. If you're going to tell me you wouldn't complain about an unranked team from any other BCS conference playing in a BCS bowl than you're probably lying.

The good news is that FSU wouldn't be complaining about us going to the ACC if they didn't think it would happen.

VTech does have 32 wins from 2009-2011, and although VTech is down in 2012, they do manage to bring in 65,000 fans at home for an off game against Austin Peay. Maybe that's why the folks don't mind them being in the big bowl games.

 

[freescooter]

Here's the problem for Florida State...where are they going? You can't leave unless you have somewhere to go. And as of right now where are they going? SEC, Please. they're the 2nd team in Florida and the SEC already has #1. B-12? to what end? Here's the second problem...they haven't won the ACC, not the SEC, the ACC since 2005. And they lost to North Carolina State, a team that just fired its coach! And 2 of their wins were over Savannah State and Murray State...Please, they maybe should become relevant themselves before they criticize others. I mean we could probably pick 11 guys off the boneyard and finish 1-1 against Savannah State & Murray State...That is Rutgersian scheduling...and that, not he ACC is why they are 9-1 and ranked 10th...and if there name was Rutgers or even North Carolina State rather than Florida State, they'd be ranked 23rd with that record and that schedule.

 

[RioDog]

Is a croissant technically a roll?

Umm- those look like Pillsbury dinner rolls to me, and almost burned to boot. Poppin Fresh!

 

[HuskyHawk]

Yeah FSU looks at UConn like we look at Temple and Memphis - so I'm only going to be so hurt by a rational reaction.

I look down on Memphis because it's a crappy commuter school. Same with Houston, and Boise. Temple is better than that, but their #125 USNews ranking isn't exciting anyone. FSU has no more right to look down its nose at UConn than it does at say, Virgina, which has a poor football team, but which is a much better university. They focused on football, because it's all they had going for them.

Fortunately, I think the President and Board knows this, and aren't about to let the AD, fans or boosters screw it up. They are trying hard to climb in the USNews rankings, and moving to the Big XII or bringing in Louisville to delete the academic prestige of the ACC doesn't help.

 

[upstater]

Maryland has the worst football record in the ACC the past 2 years. So Uconn needn't use that "impressive" 3 point victory as a yardstick.

My opinion is if FSU has a problem with the Huskies it is with the football aspect. They are 10-1 and not fairly ranked because of the perception of schedule - adding Uconn to that mix will not help that cause. On the other hand, the SEC has 2 winless teams in conference play, and they are a balanced conference???

Read what I wrote. Your post doesn't respond to what I wrote.

 

[gars44]

Maryland has the worst football record in the ACC the past 2 years. So Uconn needn't use that "impressive" 3 point victory as a yardstick.

My opinion is if FSU has a problem with the Huskies it is with the football aspect. They are 10-1 and not fairly ranked because of the perception of schedule - adding Uconn to that mix will not help that cause. On the other hand, the SEC has 2 winless teams in conference play, and they are a balanced conference???

effSU should just stfu. FreeShoes U. The only way to have sustained success on the football field where your competition is trying to play fair is to cheat. Don't make kids go to class, have real students take tests for them. Admit anyone. That's the formula, and it works. That model gets rewarded, even adored. If FSU went to the SEC, they would be just another renegade waiting for the next Cam Newton to hire for two or three years. They would do well to stfu, go undefeated in the ACC, and see what they got against the SEC champ.

 

[upstater]

VTech does have 32 wins from 2009-2011, and although VTech is down in 2012, they do manage to bring in 65,000 fans at home for an off game against Austin Peay. Maybe that's why the folks don't mind them being in the big bowl games.

If you want to northeast market, as the Big10 and ACC apparently do, you're going to have to live with the fact that the fans up here can't drive 2,000 miles for a football game over the holidays. It's much easier for the southerners to go on a short roadtrip. Blacksburg VA to Atlanta is 400 miles. When UConn played a bowl in Charlotte, it sent 15,000 fans. That's a 14 hour drive both ways.

 

[gars44]

My opinion is if FSU has a problem with the Huskies it is with the football aspect. They are 10-1 and not fairly ranked because of the perception of schedule

FSU is not ranked where they think they should be because ranking carries over from the previous two or three years. If you are consistently in the top 12, then you start off there. As you win you edge up. FSU had a poor last few years. No BCS, getting outdone by programs like BC, VT, Clem, whoever - all due to cheating and scandal, but no matter. They're back for now, until the next time they get caught. Like Miami. Like USC, Penn State, Ohio State.

 

[CL82]

It's an identity issue. FSU wants to be part of the SEC and since it can't get in there it wants the ACC to be SEC light. The ACC has always prided itself on it's academics. Louisville, temporarily, has a better football program than we do. Our academics are, because of a very significant current gap and resource differences as a State U, always going to be better. Connecticut's pluses: Academics, TV demographics and basketball. To me its an easy choice.

I've heard that three teams will vote against us. If everyone else is in favor of us we should be in, however, FSU is, apparently, flexing its muscles and the ACC is very vulnerable right now. It is an interesting power struggle. I don't see the Tobacco Road schools giving in and they, apparently favor UConn.

 

[gars44]

It's an identity issue. FSU wants to be part of the SEC and since it can't get in there it wants the ACC to be SEC light. The ACC has always prided itself on it's academics. Louisville, temporarily, has a better football program than we do. Our academics are, because of a very significant current gap and resource differences as a State U, always going to be better. Connecticut's pluses: Academics, TV demographics and basketball. To me its an easy choice.

I've heard that three teams will vote against us. If everyone else is in favor of us we should be in, however, FSU is, apparently, flexing its muscles and the ACC is very vulnerable right now. It is an interesting power struggle. I don't see the Tobacco Road schools giving in and they, apparently favor UConn.

It's funny reading the MD board: they are so happy to be out of what they call the "bojangles" conference. It is ironic that everyone here wants to be Mr. Bojangles. Corn cob pipe, missing teeth, gnarled up hair and baggy pants