Fox just rubbed salt in the wounds

[Jerry27]

The Fox commercial was like being sucker punched in the stomache, but there is no point making our pain worse than it was.

Lagow never wanted to compete with Boyle for the position, and left after about 30 seconds when he saw himself competing against Boyle and having trouble getting in front of him. Is it possible that the staff should have known what each would look like 4 years out and have immediately let Lagow know he was the guy? Yes, its possible. But it took Lagow years to get on the field as a Div 1 QB, and Boyle was more highly rated coming out of high school, and there is no way of knowing that a different coach would have handles it better. But to imply he left because he worried about our offensive development three coaches down the road is laughable.

And Williams took himself out of the program with his off field behavior.

So while I have no issue beating up on the P era, I just don't know that these two kids are evidence of what the problems actually were. Other than everything going wrong.

There was no competition to run from, the local kid was getting preferential treatment by PP, so to imply he ran is naive and a bit uninformed as to what was occurring during that time period. What he saw was the writing on the wall and decided to leave. Good luck to him, he found a place for himself and is doing well.

 

[zls44]

The Lagow situation is why I don't believe in coddling these bad CT HS FB coaches.

Breaking news- you aren't that good and neither are an overwhelming majority of your players. Deal with it. Stop holding this program hostage.

 

[SubbaBub]

IDK, and don't care to rehash it but I always thought Lagow was holding out for a better offer.

Under that case, you can't blame P for bringing in another QB and a coach shouldn't have to apologize for it. How many times has our QB played every game?

Development is another story. Boyle might be the worst regular D1 QB we've had but Williams is giving him a run.

 

[Confident Carl]

I don't agree with you often Carl, but the hate DW has gotten after starting 3 games as a true freshman is unbelievable.

Agreed but more like unconscionable! Look, anything Diaco says is being met with resistance, I get it. But for BD to sing DW's praise the way he did tells me DW could be a very special player. I refuse to let those first three games, with a rookie OC determine my opinion of DW. It's too early to tell and I maintain that I am happy he got his feet wet at the expense of the Red Shirt. No matter what one thinks about a Bob Diaco, he wouldn't put this out there if he doesn't have big time talent.

"Some really emotional style games that have a lot of, I call it the swirl of game day," Diaco said. "It's invaluable. It can't even be measured in terms of his future quarterbacking the team in [2017] and beyond. It's just an incredible jump start. His upside, at the end, all things being equal, it will be as high as any player at his position in America. He's that talented. He's big, he's fast, he's smart, he's got an excellent arm, he's got a quick release, he's elusive in the pocket."

Let's have a little patience and see what happens with Donovan Winston, I mean Williams!

 

[BlueMAB]

We learned two things about DW this year:
1) He wasn't ready to play.
2) He has a very, very, very long way to go before he's anything close to what Diaco said his potential is.

 

[Confident Carl]

We learned two things about DW this year:
1) He wasn't ready to play.
2) He has a very, very, very long way to go before he's anything close to what Diaco said his potential is.

Two things I learned about Wing U-Conn

1. Your not ready to coach

2. You have a very very very long way to go before you can be anything close to a Division 1 FBS football coach

It's the absolutes that are difficult to take. For Pete's sake that's why he gave him the game experience.
And Tom Brady wasn't the QB he is today when he was a Senior at Michigan!
Timing is everything in sports. Sometimes when things are going bad you try too hard and don't let the game come to you.
Let's give the kid some time. He may surprise you!

 

[Stainmaster]

Two things I learned about Wing U-Conn

1. Your not ready to coach

2. You have a very very very long way to go before you can be anything close to a Division 1 FBS football coach

It's the absolutes that are difficult to take. For Pete's sake that's why he gave him the game experience.
And Tom Brady wasn't the QB he is today when he was a Senior at Michigan!
Timing is everything in sports. Sometimes when things are going bad you try too hard and don't let the game come to you.
Let's give the kid some time. He may surprise you!

Great tactic, the "I have no substance so I'm just gonna copy and paste what you said and switch the words around" really convinces people of your merits.

You're asserting that anyone who didn't think the QB whose completion percentage is under 50%, threw for a measly 300 yards on 36 completions across three games, and has a 1-to-5 TD-INT ratio isn't game ready doesn't know anything about football...this is nonsensical.

I will never understand why you keep comparing our players to people who are all-time greats at their positions. The chance that we have anyone who is on Tom Brady's level play at UConn is infinitesimal at best. You seem to think that just because you blindly hope and wish for something, it'll come true. I can hope and wish all I want to win the lottery tomorrow, but does that make it any more likely?

Also, I don't know if you've been watching, but this team is 14-35 over the past four seasons. We can't afford to "give kids time" anymore, we need them to step up and start winning us some games. At the quarterback position, you win games by making plays.

 

[CTMike]

We learned two things about DW this year:
1) He wasn't ready to play.
2) He has a very, very, very long way to go before he's anything close to what Diaco said his potential is.

There is absolutely nothing objectionable at all in this.

Please note that nothing stated here precludes DW from, some day, developing.

But regarding the 2016 season, these are statements of fact.

 

[Confident Carl]

Great tactic, the "I have no substance so I'm just gonna copy and paste what you said and switch the words around" really convinces people of your merits.

You're asserting that anyone who didn't think the QB whose completion percentage is under 50%, threw for a measly 300 yards on 36 completions across three games, and has a 1-to-5 TD-INT ratio isn't game ready doesn't know anything about football...this is nonsensical.

I will never understand why you keep comparing our players to people who are all-time greats at their positions. The chance that we have anyone who is on Tom Brady's level play at UConn is infinitesimal at best. You seem to think that just because you blindly hope and wish for something, it'll come true. I can hope and wish all I want to win the lottery tomorrow, but does that make it any more likely?

Also, I don't know if you've been watching, but this team is 14-35 over the past four seasons. We can't afford to "give kids time" anymore, we need them to step up and start winning us some games. At the quarterback position, you win games by making plays.

Give it a rest stretch!

 

[BlueMAB]

2. You have a very very very long way to go before you can be anything close to a Division 1 FBS football coach

So does Diaco.

Look Carl, I didn't say a single negative thing about the kid in that post. You read into that post whatever you wanted to. Nobody should be expected to come in as a true freshman QB and perform well at this level, with this OL, and this coaching staff. I didn't make one single "absolute" statement in that post. WTF are you reading?

But since you want to make this personal, rather than about Williams, fine.

You're the embodiment of a human participation trophy. This place doesn't suite you, you're much better off handing out "Finisher" ribbons to the players since they managed to play 12 whole games this year.

But please, don't ever leave, you're the "Chong" to Chief's "Cheech". Without you two here, it wouldn't be quite as easy to identify the "fanatics" from the "lunatics".

 

[Confident Carl]

So does Diaco.

Look Carl, I didn't say a single negative thing about the kid in that post. You read into that post whatever you wanted to. Nobody should be expected to come in as a true freshman QB and perform well at this level, with this OL, and this coaching staff. I didn't make one single "absolute" statement in that post. WTF are you reading?

But since you want to make this personal, rather than about Williams, fine.

You're the embodiment of a human participation trophy. This place doesn't suite you, you're much better off handing out "Finisher" ribbons to the players since they managed to play 12 whole games this year.

But please, don't ever leave, you're the "Chong" to Chief's "Cheech". Without you two here, it wouldn't be quite as easy to identify the "fanatics" from the "lunatics".

You too! Go have a couple of egg nogs!

 

[Stainmaster]

You too! Go have a couple of egg nogs!

This is why nobody takes you seriously.

 

[Confident Carl]

This is why nobody takes you seriously.

If you take this blog seriously then you need to get a life bro!

 

[TouchdownHusky]

It's so weird how other schools have quarterbacks. Then they keep adding more quarterbacks. Then a quarterback graduates and then the next quarterback plays.

We turn our quarterbacks over more often than 7-11 swaps out the Twinkies.

Until UConn commits, really commits, to a passing game as the meat and potatoes of its offense, forget getting top notch QB recruits (and WRs).

 

[CL82]

I want to know what it was we did that damned us to this circle of hell.

 

[BNich]

It's going to be another long off season.

 

[MilliniumPrince]

Two things I learned about Wing U-Conn

1. Your not ready to coach

2. You have a very very very long way to go before you can be anything close to a Division 1 FBS football coach

It's the absolutes that are difficult to take. For Pete's sake that's why he gave him the game experience.
And Tom Brady wasn't the QB he is today when he was a Senior at Michigan!
Timing is everything in sports. Sometimes when things are going bad you try too hard and don't let the game come to you.
Let's give the kid some time. He may surprise you!

Wasn't Brady 10-1 as a starter at Michigan?

 

[Confident Carl]

Wasn't Brady 10-1 as a starter at Michigan?

My point in mentioning Brady was more his about his assent to where he is today. Nobody expected that he could possibly become the greatest quarterback of all time. Many on the Boneyard have written Donovan Williams off after his 3 game rookie start. Brady was a reluctant 6th round draft choice of the Pats. Slower than molasses in January he ran over a 6.0 in the 40. I am hoping we have a great QB in Storrs the next 3 years!

https://www.quora.com/Why-was-Tom-Brady-drafted-so-low

 

[FartMan69]

Using Tom Brady as a measuring point seems like a real fair and sensible thing to do... Regardless do you realize how good of a college QB you have to be to even be drafted that late? Pretty damn good and that's about 10000000000x harder when playing at UConn rather than Michigan

 

[Sky ball]

IDK, and don't care to rehash it but I always thought Lagow was holding out for a better offer.

Under that case, you can't blame P for bringing in another QB and a coach shouldn't have to apologize for it. How many times has our QB played every game?

Development is another story. Boyle might be the worst regular D1 QB we've had but Williams is giving him a run.

I recall Lagow being a big UConn cheerleader until Boyle arrived?

 

[Confident Carl]

Using Tom Brady as a measuring point seems like a real fair and sensible thing to do... Regardless do you realize how good of a college QB you have to be to even be drafted that late? Pretty damn good and that's about 10000000000x harder when playing at UConn rather than Michigan

I agree, really good. But, he went from a sixth round back up to Drew Bledsoe to arguably the best QB of all time! That's pretty amazing! The man is a flat out winner despite his athletic limitations. I am hoping Donovan Williams advances to amaze all of us UCONN fans.

 

[CTMike]

Tom Brady is in no way related in any fashion to DW.

Stating that DW had a terrible 2016 is not an indictment of his future.

We all wish for the best - as for how probable that outcome is, no one knows, but the available book of work isn't great. Here's hoping he develops... and quickly.

 

[BlueMAB]

Stop being so negative @CTMike Donovan Williams played college football, in high school.

 

[Confident Carl]

Tom Brady is in no way related in any fashion to DW.

Stating that DW had a terrible 2016 is not an indictment of his future.

We all wish for the best - as for how probable that outcome is, no one knows, but the available book of work isn't great. Here's hoping he develops... and quickly.

Mike, you need to review the video tape so to speak. If you go back many of the comments were quite critical and showed no confidence in his future. I am sure that many on the Boneyard wish for the best. However, as we all know this place can go sour quicker than a quart of milk on a sidewalk in Arizona in August.

 

[MilliniumPrince]

My point in mentioning Brady was more his about his assent to where he is today. Nobody expected that he could possibly become the greatest quarterback of all time. Many on the Boneyard have written Donovan Williams off after his 3 game rookie start. Brady was a reluctant 6th round draft choice of the Pats. Slower than molasses in January he ran over a 6.0 in the 40. I am hoping we have a great QB in Storrs the next 3 years!

https://www.quora.com/Why-was-Tom-Brady-drafted-so-low

I know the story. Just thought Brady was a bad example to support your argument, which I agree with. The book on D-Will may have many chapters left. Judging him in totality based on what we saw is not wise. But it is fair to make both points:
1) He looked totally unprepared
2) He may well have a great career at UConn

No harm in criticism with context.

 

[BlueMAB]

I know the story. Just thought Brady was a bad example to support your argument, which I agree with. The book on D-Will may have many chapters left. Judging him in totality based on what we saw is not wise. But it is fair to make both points:
1) He looked totally unprepared
2) He may well have a great career at UConn

No harm in criticism with context.

Carl really thrives off taking posts out of context. I'm not accusing you of anything, but for the record, I never said 1) shouldn't look unprepared or 2) wouldn't have a great career.

He's a true freshman, I didn't expect him to be ready to come in and be a game changer.

He could end up being one of the best QBs in the country, but there's nothing on tape to suggest he is anything but a very long way away from becoming that. That's an opinion, but it's backed up by fact. All Carl does is throw out Hall of Famers and Heisman award winners while accusing people critical of the decision to play Williams of being critical of Williams himself.

 

[Confident Carl]

Carl really thrives off taking posts out of context. I'm not accusing you of anything, but for the record, I never said 1) shouldn't look unprepared or 2) wouldn't have a great career.

He's a true freshman, I didn't expect him to be ready to come in and be a game changer.

He could end up being one of the best QBs in the country, but there's nothing on tape to suggest he is anything but a very long way away from becoming that. That's an opinion, but it's backed up by fact. All Carl does is throw out Hall of Famers and Heisman award winners while accusing people critical of the decision to play Williams of being critical of Williams himself.

Many on the Boneyard are overly negative and critical (which is acceptable to a point due to a horrible 6 yr stretch) but at the same times speaking out of both sides of their mouths! See thread "Is Williams really the answer". If that is not condescending verbiage then I don't know what is. In regards to Williams, there is zero trust in Bob Diaco's offensive player assessment. So if the head coach of UCONN says that DW has an upside as much as any player at his position in the country, the standard Boneyard response characterizes that as it must not be true because Diaco is a terrible coach and has no clue. My observation is most are trashing Williams based on the first three freshmen starts ( which most don't believe should have happened) but at the same time kind of hedging their remarks in the event they are wrong and DW turns into a star. Then they would have to admit they were wrong and say they jumped the gun on the kid. I'm not saying he will be great for sure but do like the tangibles and am taking a wait and see approach. However, I would be lying if I said I wasn't excited about his future! I stand by my analogy of Brady because obviously if NFL coaches knew in advance how good he was going to be someday, he wouldn't have been a 6th round draft choice. The Pats obviously saw some potential which has paid off beyond measure.

Video tape was not used as a literal term, it was intended for Mike to review what has actually been said about Williams, most of which has not been flattering in any way shape or form. Williams and his parents would agree with me.

 

[RSTuthill]

Regarding DW the jury has obviously still not even convened yet. A decision was made to give up on the season and DW was thrown in the to focus his mind on next season. No doubt they were impressed with his athleticism to draw the conclusion that he could be the next quarterback. Well, he appeared lost and not particularly athletic. But that does not mean without some work and acclimatization he could be great. If a juco qb does not show up that blows their socks off (gotta think that is plan A), then DW is it. Right now he is probably in overdrive preparing for next year now that exams are over.

 

[Ldandy]

Many on the Boneyard are overly negative and critical (which is acceptable to a point due to a horrible 6 yr stretch) but at the same times speaking out of both sides of their mouths! See thread "Is Williams really the answer". If that is not condescending verbiage then I don't know what is. In regards to Williams, there is zero trust in Bob Diaco's offensive player assessment. So if the head coach of UCONN says that DW has an upside as much as any player at his position in the country, the standard Boneyard response characterizes that as it must not be true because Diaco is a terrible coach and has no clue. My observation is most are trashing Williams based on the first three freshmen starts ( which most don't believe should have happened) but at the same time kind of hedging their remarks in the event they are wrong and DW turns into a star. Then they would have to admit they were wrong and say they jumped the gun on the kid. I'm not saying he will be great for sure but do like the tangibles and am taking a wait and see approach. However, I would be lying if I said I wasn't excited about his future! I stand by my analogy of Brady because obviously if NFL coaches knew in advance how good he was going to be someday, he wouldn't have been a 6th round draft choice. The Pats obviously saw some potential which has paid off beyond measure.

Video tape was not used as a literal term, it was intended for Mike to review what has actually been said about Williams, most of which has not been flattering in any way shape or form. Williams and his parents would agree with me.

The problem with what you are saying is that it is a proven fact that Diaco is A) a known liar, B) a terrible coach, and C) someone who has proven to have no clue regarding developing or managing anything related to the quarterback position. So viewing things through that filter, how can you take any comments he has made about Williams as being indicative of any future potential? I hope the kid develops into an All American and eventually makes it to The NFL, but what have you witnessed with your own eyes on the field this year or the last two leads you to believe that this is even remotely possible under this coaching staff?

 

[Redding Husky]

It's going to be another long off season.

We're a hockey school now. It's mid-season.