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that the coaching staff this year should really be embarrassed. i have already spoken about the lack of development of our players so can someone please tell me the last time we have seen an in-game adjustment. our perimeter defense is a complete joke, our offensive sets are flat out gross, and team chemistry is simply brutal. i am sorry but as long as we are pointing fingers, mine is currently pointed at Calhoun, Blaney and company. When a team is worse in February than November without any injury, when players productivity is worse in February than November, when a team is completely lost..........that my fellow boneyarders falls on the coaching staff.
 
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Team is not well-coached, no doubt about it.

Calhoun's suspension and health certainly did not help.

The thing this team needs most of is experience.
 
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Team is not well-coached, no doubt about it.

Calhoun's suspension and health certainly did not help.

The thing this team needs most of is experience.

Exactly.

Unfortunately, we might not get a chance to see it. But I have no doubt that this team would be very good next year if they all returned.
 
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Between last April and this October, the coaches forgot most of what they had learned over their lives about basketball. Karl Hobbs came in and was teaching them the George Washington U. methods for winning basketball, but Glen Miller disagreed and said Brown U's basketball methods are just as winning as GW's. Then the argument started and Blaney reminded them about Holy Cross, and soon the players were very confused about all the different playbooks the team was using.
 
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I think Blaney is teaching them the Seton Hall way of coaching, and that is the problem.

It is not the reason why things are sucking, but he is not a Big East quality Head Coach.
 
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I can't fault Calhoun or the other coaches. This is all the players. Coaches don't create chemistry. Players do, just like Kemba did last year.
 

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I have come to the realization that this team is just not good and it is a fruitless effort to try to pick apart every aspect of their play after every game or say that they have the ability to get it going.

I say this because every game it seems to be a different reason or a multitude of reasons why they lose, It's not like they had a problem early on, addressed it and improved upon the weak point as the season went on. What is a strong point one game is a weak point the next. This to me is a sign of a very poor basketball team.

This team is not consistently good at any aspect of the game. If a team is not consistently good at anything game after game that equals a bad basketball team.
 

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It's the substitute teacher effect, with a dash of self-satisfaction from last year's NC.
 
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It's the offesne. You can't win at this level scoring 64 points, not consistentlly. You just can't.
 

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that the coaching staff this year should really be embarrassed. i have already spoken about the lack of development of our players so can someone please tell me the last time we have seen an in-game adjustment. our perimeter defense is a complete joke, our offensive sets are flat out gross, and team chemistry is simply brutal. i am sorry but as long as we are pointing fingers, mine is currently pointed at Calhoun, Blaney and company. When a team is worse in February than November without any injury, when players productivity is worse in February than November, when a team is completely lost..........that my fellow boneyarders falls on the coaching staff.

Thank You!!!! Finally someone on here is making some sense. I have been thinking the same thing for quite some time now.....And to be honest I am NOT sold on Ollie being the next man up at all. Ideally I would like the coach out of Ariz. or the young kid in Memphis, but I really don't see either happening. But back to the point, this lack of execution falls on the coaches heads. This could be the worst half court offense, and lack of effort on D I've seen in quite some time
 

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The worse we suck, the more Calhoun comes back spitting fire.
 

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These guys just don't wanna win bad enough.
Drummond's free throw technique not changing in the least bit all year though is a major indication of something. He should at least be shooting properly at the line. He looks like an elementary kid given the basketball for the first time
 

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Disagree - we lack passion more so than experience.
I think it is more discouragement and the misguided desire to maintain "street cred" rather than make basketball plays that has been the problem.
The broadcast today focused on SN hanging his head when heading to the bench and they discussed how that discouragement is contagious. Rather than hustling and scrapping the team feels like everyone is against them, they collectively hang their heads and they get caught flat-footed instead of boxing out or closing out properly on opponent's 3 pointers.
Now, my "street cred" comment applies to the feeling that if an opponent burns you with a 3 pointer, you lose less face if you nonchalantly close in on the shooter rather than break a sweat with your hand properly up, so that might be our players motivation to not properly have their hand up and close out properly rather than laziness or lack of passion. This comment also applies to RB's unfortunate trash-talking episode that killed the team's chances today
 
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that the coaching staff this year should really be embarrassed. i have already spoken about the lack of development of our players so can someone please tell me the last time we have seen an in-game adjustment. our perimeter defense is a complete joke, our offensive sets are flat out gross, and team chemistry is simply brutal. i am sorry but as long as we are pointing fingers, mine is currently pointed at Calhoun, Blaney and company. When a team is worse in February than November without any injury, when players productivity is worse in February than November, when a team is completely lost..........that my fellow boneyarders falls on the coaching staff.

Okay let's see........Calhoun, Blaney, Miller, Ollie, Hobbs and others???? Um yeah right I get it....it's the coaching?

Fn stupid there. Every kid on the team has beem taugh things 90% of the other Div1 programs can't because of the depth of coaching. Now if you stated the coaching may have done a bad job "recruiting certain talent" instead of coaching them you may have a shot but since you didn't this thread blows. The kids ar a tough coach - it happens. What has Alex learned in 3 years? You don't think he's been given every drop step move to work on, had the jugs machine throwing rocket passes to him to soften thos mason hands??? Not much better is it - you know what it's basketball and you get the coaching and then you have all the time in the world to make yourself better too. Same with Roscoe - still can't dribble it more than once without scaring the crap out of everyone....on him to go home and get better. The coaches ask them to work on things, do not take the summer off - did they? Doesn't look it now does it................take Andre, wow his coaches treated him like a diamond. Didn't teach the young man a thing. He's a 2 -3 year student before he can catch up with allhe lost by being a 6'11 kid vs small dudes and being able to shoot from his chest still on turnaround jumpers, its in his blood and tough to get out. Once in a while the 18 year old gets it and once in a while the habits, which die hard, come back. DD has so much to learn but the skills are there. It's a tough fast road now with this staff and the team and one year may not be enough to get through what you need to with kids. Boat is wild at times and needs to get more confidence in his mudrange game rather than getting too deep......he will. Bazz played awful for 8-9 games but has rebounded for the last 4 and gets it for now. He's a soph. and Kemba went through that also. Jeremy is not strong enough yet but is getting there, but as you saw yesterday they muscled him around and he is not prepared yet for that. He and the staff did a nice job making his bocy stronger but he came in about 170 lbs soaking wet....he's getting stronger but he's still a kid.

These are good if not great coaches and they can teach I promise. What they comprehend and if they can is the problem, not the coaching.........anyone who believes the staff is not equipped to make these kids better as players is screwed up........they just can't make them smarter players or jolt their heart everytime the passion is gone and that's on them, if true, for recruiting the wrong type Husky kids. Beyond that NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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there is no way on earth I can ever even dream that I (or any other boneyarder for that matter) know more about coaching CBB than our staff

I think such thoughts are bad joke
 
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coaching doesn't matter? then explain to me how teams in this conference with marginal talent outperform year in and year out and uconn with 2 potential high lottery picks underperform......to just blame the team and not the coaching is flat out dillusional.
 
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The worse we suck, the more Calhoun comes back spitting fire.

With all due respect Calhoun ain't the answer at least in the short term. They really need another year together, but it may not happen. This team just doesn't play well together. We saw the puzzle box and it looked good, and we brought it. But putting the pieces together was tougher than we thought (even for Calhoun). Anyway the result is a somewhat ugly puzzle yet we still are looking at the picture on the box.

I feel that it won't be put together this season. Just my opinion.
 
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coaching doesn't matter? then explain to me how teams in this conference with marginal talent outperform year in and year out and uconn with 2 potential high lottery picks underperform......to just blame the team and not the coaching is flat out dillusional.

"...year in - year out.." HUH??? Before I reply I guess I nee to kow where the hell you are going with this ridiculous statement? UConn does perform year in year out in the conference prior to this......last year they made up for it in the tourney, this year I doubt they can. But where are you going? And the 2 potential lottery picks assumption is insane unless of course you are fn blind. Both talented good kids, but neither living up to their billing as their weaknesses have been exposed. Despite that the NBA is stupid and drafts on "potential" so they may gohigher than deserved but this does not make them great college basketball players. These kids have not passed the toughness test, of which JC's staff proves year in year out he makes kids tougher. They have not passed the intelligence test regarding basketball and fundamentals, which also is proven in the past. Can't teach these things if they can't comprehend and sometimes it takes longer for kids to learn seeing how their AAU and HS coaches normally aren't really good! To question the staff is ridiculous unless we're talking halfcourt offense at times, substitutions maybe things like that. But there's know doubt they have one of the best staffs in the country to learn the game of basketball and life from for sure!!! Up to them from there..............they have the gifts they need the heart and know how!
 
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First, look at teams like ND, Marquette, Gtown, etc. Year in and year out their rosters are filled with much less talent. Say what you want about ND and Mike Brey, but he makes adjustments and his team always overperforms. Thats coaching. You don't just take a group of 18 year olds and say, go play, just rely on your talent........and really? Drummond and Lamb aren't high lottery picks? Let me ask you this....as an NBA gm, would you rather have Johnson-Odom or Lamb for the next 10 years. The NBA is about potential and both our players have limitless potential. Was Dwight Howard any better than Drummond at 19. I don't think so. I mean Drummond is raw and we all placed misguided expectations on him, but any one can see his upside.
 
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First, look at teams like ND, Marquette, Gtown, etc. Year in and year out their rosters are filled with much less talent. Say what you want about ND and Mike Brey, but he makes adjustments and his team always overperforms. Thats coaching. You don't just take a group of 18 year olds and say, go play, just rely on your talent........and really? Drummond and Lamb aren't high lottery picks? Let me ask you this....as an NBA gm, would you rather have Johnson-Odom or Lamb for the next 10 years. The NBA is about potential and both our players have limitless potential. Was Dwight Howard any better than Drummond at 19. I don't think so. I mean Drummond is raw and we all placed misguided expectations on him, but any one can see his upside.

Alright so point is proven. Now the only thing you need to do for me is put down on paper where ND, GTown and Marquette have finished in the NCAA tourney as they continually outperform????

And yet another point proven - Odom or Lamb now, as we speak? Odom....he's mature, he's tough and strong and is winning...NBA though in 5-6 years no-brainer......and I'm thinking Dwight Howard was a lot better than AD as a whole, fundamentals and strength. Now who knows where Andre will be in 3-4 years but he's just another big out there for now, rarely making himself the MAN. He can but he's too nice and they can't teach that fire and I'm sure they're trying.

There's something to be said for a guy like Brey who has kids who don't jump ship and are a really nice team and they play hard and win games. Also something to be said for whent he time comes when you need to coach against other great coaches on the biggest arena, the NCAA tourney, and you never make it anywhere to brag about!!!!!!! JC wins championships, Brey wins games............which guy you want?????????
 
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point proven? first off, this isnt a debate on who is a better coach, calhoun or brey. stay on point. the debate is that THIS year the coaching staff has underperformed. So that being said, pen to paper, my guess is ND, G'Town, and Marquette will all go farther in the NCAAs than UConn, again THIS year. And are you trying to tell me on paper, UConn isn't more talented than all three teams?
point proven? its hard to take you serious with your 2nd point. If you asked every GM in the league, it would be unanimous on who they would take.
Lastly, stop living in the past. This is about this year. We are 2-7 in our last 9. Did we not need to win any of those. Did we not need to get embarrassed every time we played a ranked opponent?
 
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What about physical players? Who besides AO(sometimes) plays tough?
 
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point proven? first off, this isnt a debate on who is a better coach, calhoun or brey. stay on point. the debate is that THIS year the coaching staff has underperformed. So that being said, pen to paper, my guess is ND, G'Town, and Marquette will all go farther in the NCAAs than UConn, again THIS year. And are you trying to tell me on paper, UConn isn't more talented than all three teams?
point proven? its hard to take you serious with your 2nd point. If you asked every GM in the league, it would be unanimous on who they would take.
Lastly, stop living in the past. This is about this year. We are 2-7 in our last 9. Did we not need to win any of those. Did we not need to get embarrassed every time we played a ranked opponent?

Can you read? I'm not talking from a GM's standpoint I'm talking from a fans standpoint. What does "on paper" ever prove? Because Andre was ranked so high by some fools as well as Boat and DeAndre coming in? All are potentially very good college basketball players and beyond no doubt, get your point, one of the ery few good ones. But as of now, Andre is not as good as a 6'5" Crowder, Boat is not as good as Odom and DeAndre the same with Crowder or even Wilson for that matter. Paper doesn't mean ..........and these kids being coached daily by the best in the game. If they can't bring this to the court it's on them and their understanding of what it takes. The fact they get loose and don't take care of the ball is on them. The fact Andre makes stupid fouls is on him, the fat Alex got outrebounded by a bunch of 6'"5 guys is on him.................nothings changed in UConnland except the fact they may have a crop of kids who don't fit the uniforms as well as others in the past. That you can blame on the coaching, but the coaching itself, you can only be a dope to think that's the truth!!!
 
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What about physical players? Who besides AO(sometimes) plays tough?

Good question and a serious issue. Tyler plays tough just as much as Alex but both are sporadic and neither can defend a chair as they say. The anticipation of the shot going up, who's going to take it so you're ready to box out is so important and yet none of the bigs get it at all, only on occasion! Again "tough" is wrong I think, "smart" is more like it!!!!!
 
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