Football determines if a school is selected for a conference, not Basketball

[UconnFanDC]

We continue to debate and argue over the same thing regarding Uconn being in the AAC. It's all about making money! It's football that has held us back and will continue to do so until we improve.

We would have the smallest stadium regardless which P 5 conference we'd go to and cant even fill that up consistently! Lets become a stable football program then watch what happens.

As far as basketball, Ollie has done the right thing by having a bunch of good out of conference teams on our schedule for basketball to survive. Which it will if Ollie coaches the team like he is capable of doing!! Memphis (when was in USA), Gonzaga, VCU and some other schools have seemed to survive in their weak conferences. Butler made the Final 4 twice not in the Big East. Ok I am Done!

 

[Jerry1714]

I do not think there is 1 person that does not realize football drives the bus, and that our football program is not good.

 

[jfuchs91]

Thank you for the original thought.

Football undoubtedly needs to get better. However, the tide is shifting and conferences are beginning to make the majority of their money from conference networks. Football is still the most important sport, sure, but yearround live content is needed to fill the airtime, and thus other sports rise in importance. In this regard, UConn can be very attractive to a conference with a network (looking at you, B1G!).

 

[Chin Diesel]

Captain Obvious with a drive-by troll.

 

[tcf15]

Aspiring to be like Memphis, Gonzaga, VCU and Butler is a really great idea.

 

[specialisthusky]

We were coming off a bcs appearance and big east conf championship when Syracuse and Pitt announced they were leaving.

There is no set explanation why we are where we are.

 

[Jerry1714]

We were coming off a bcs appearance and big east conf championship when Syracuse and Pitt announced they were leaving.

There is no set explanation why we are where we are.

Syracuse and Pitt football have a much longer and accomplished history in football. 1 year means nothing.

 

[partyATkemba]

Or....Location can play a factor (e.g. Rutgers). Any conference can take on a bottom feeder if it can improve their bottom line for TV revenue.

Andddd....the AAU designation

 

[SirHypeAlot]

may have just given myself whiplash shaking my damn head at this one

 

[Drumguy]

Really news huh. We have a freakin' conference realignment forum and we need to have a thread by a Rip Van Winkle poster, no offense meant OP, but really, where have you been for the past 15 years?

 

[JimHurley]

Ding, ding, ding. You got it. People were wondering why the ACC picked Louisville over us and this is why. Their football program is much better than ours. I'd love to join the Big 12 but they would never take us because of how bad our football team is.

 

[UConn990411]

We continue to debate and argue over the same thing regarding Uconn being in the AAC. It's all about making money! It's football that has held us back and will continue to do so until we improve.

We would have the smallest stadium regardless which P 5 conference we'd go to and cant even fill that up consistently! Lets become a stable football program then watch what happens.

As far as basketball, Ollie has done the right thing by having a bunch of good out of conference teams on our schedule for basketball to survive. Which it will if Ollie coaches the team like he is capable of doing!! Memphis (when was in USA), Gonzaga, VCU and some other schools have seemed to survive in their weak conferences. Butler made the Final 4 twice not in the Big East. Ok I am Done!

If you're going to make declarative statements, then at least know what you're talking about.

Football is one of a few driving factors, but the TV market is also important. Different conferences weight those factors differently.

The B1G, for instance, added Maryland and Rutgers not for their football programs, but to expand into two major metropolitans. The ACC, on the other hand, tends to go with whichever school has the highest ranked football team at the time.

 

[Husky25]

You came up with this all on your own? Extraordinary. Simply extraordinary...

One thing though. Butler was not in the Big East when they went to the Final 4...either time.

 

[OkaForPrez]

Conference Realignment Board

 

[8893]

Wait...shouldn't we be discussing this in the recruiting-specific threads?

 

[nomar]

In my opinion, the football team should play better, and win some Bowl games, Ollie should recruit better and land more recruits, and the school should join a better conference, preferably the B1G. Just one man's opinion!

 

[Gurleyman]

Syracuse and Pitt football have a much longer and accomplished history in football. 1 year means nothing.

Neither does success with Floyd Little.

We were on a pretty good 7-year run at that point. We shared a BE title with WV prior (although we were womped head to head). We had the win over South Carolina in the bowl game, a win at Notre Dame, beating Baylor - not to mention whooping some P5 teams. We were legitimately disappointed we didn't beat Wake when we drew them in a bowl.

In 2011, our football program was in better position than the teams that left. A strong case could have been made that we offered a more promising future - state school on the rise, etc. But instead we botched it - Edsall left, we allowed ourselves to be painted as small time in the wake of the Fiesta Bowl, we hired PP, and now we are where we are.

The years between the two hoops titles in 2004 and our 2011 windfall of success, as football grew, were a textbook case in how not to use momentum to grow your department. No facility upgrades (post FB complex), no branding/messaging about our remarkably quick rise in football, tying in to our similar rise in hoops. UConn should be a national success story - building an athletics powerhouse from humble origins very quickly in multiple sports. But somehow we're now considered beneath places that would have wet dreams of getting half of our trophy case.

After 2011, we've tried to catch up to where we should have been already. But we've slipped all the way back down the mountain in football and we have to fight stronger headwinds. Around 2011, the wind was at our backs, but we were rudderless.

 

[Husky25]

In my opinion, the football team should play better, and win some Bowl games, Ollie should recruit better and land more recruits, and the school should join a better conference, preferably the B1G. Just one man's opinion!

You don't get it!!!!

UConn has to play less poorly and draw more people to football games. Ollie can't leave for the NBA and keep on losing recruiting battles, and the school needs to stop turning down P5 offers.

 

[BUConn10]

Neither does success with Floyd Little.

We were on a pretty good 7-year run at that point. We shared a BE title with WV prior (although we were womped head to head). We had the win over South Carolina in the bowl game, a win at Notre Dame, beating Baylor - not to mention whooping some P5 teams. We were legitimately disappointed we didn't beat Wake when we drew them in a bowl.

In 2011, our football program was in better position than the teams that left. A strong case could have been made that we offered a more promising future - state school on the rise, etc. But instead we botched it - Edsall left, we allowed ourselves to be painted as small time in the wake of the Fiesta Bowl, we hired PP, and now we are where we are.

The years between the two hoops titles in 2004 and our 2011 windfall of success, as football grew, were a textbook case in how not to use momentum to grow your department. No facility upgrades (post FB complex), no branding/messaging about our remarkably quick rise in football, tying in to our similar rise in hoops. UConn should be a national success story - building an athletics powerhouse from humble origins very quickly in multiple sports. But somehow we're now considered beneath places that would have wet dreams of getting half of our trophy case.

After 2011, we've tried to catch up to where we should have been already. But we've slipped all the way back down the mountain in football and we have to fight stronger headwinds. Around 2011, the wind was at our backs, but we were rudderless.

Very well written and I agree on all parts, especially the part about UConn's chronic case of "small time" mindset following massive success, which subsequently results in the appalling lack of brand development over the last two decades.

 

[AtlHusky]

We would have the smallest stadium regardless which P 5 conference we'd go to and cant even fill that up consistently!

Not quite:

 

[Jerry1714]

Neither does success with Floyd Little.

We were on a pretty good 7-year run at that point. We shared a BE title with WV prior (although we were womped head to head). We had the win over South Carolina in the bowl game, a win at Notre Dame, beating Baylor - not to mention whooping some P5 teams. We were legitimately disappointed we didn't beat Wake when we drew them in a bowl.

In 2011, our football program was in better position than the teams that left. A strong case could have been made that we offered a more promising future - state school on the rise, etc. But instead we botched it - Edsall left, we allowed ourselves to be painted as small time in the wake of the Fiesta Bowl, we hired PP, and now we are where we are.

The years between the two hoops titles in 2004 and our 2011 windfall of success, as football grew, were a textbook case in how not to use momentum to grow your department. No facility upgrades (post FB complex), no branding/messaging about our remarkably quick rise in football, tying in to our similar rise in hoops. UConn should be a national success story - building an athletics powerhouse from humble origins very quickly in multiple sports. But somehow we're now considered beneath places that would have wet dreams of getting half of our trophy case.

After 2011, we've tried to catch up to where we should have been already. But we've slipped all the way back down the mountain in football and we have to fight stronger headwinds. Around 2011, the wind was at our backs, but we were rudderless.

I agree we screwed up on capitalizing our on our momentum, and the PP hire was an utter failure from the time the contract was signed.

You can debate about Cuse, but there is no comparison between us and Pitt in football.

 

[Huskyforlife]

Just delete this thread

 

[specialisthusky]

Syracuse and Pitt football have a much longer and accomplished history in football. 1 year means nothing.

I have no idea if you are agreeing with my post or challenging it.

But either way -looks like we agree the Win/Loss record of our football team is not the determining factor of conference realignment.

 

[raf46]

We continue to debate and argue over the same thing regarding Uconn being in the AAC. It's all about making money! It's football that has held us back and will continue to do so until we improve.

We would have the smallest stadium regardless which P 5 conference we'd go to and cant even fill that up consistently! Lets become a stable football program then watch what happens.

As far as basketball, Ollie has done the right thing by having a bunch of good out of conference teams on our schedule for basketball to survive. Which it will if Ollie coaches the team like he is capable of doing!! Memphis (when was in USA), Gonzaga, VCU and some other schools have seemed to survive in their weak conferences. Butler made the Final 4 twice not in the Big East. Ok I am Done!

Market share, TV, will get us into a better conference. Rutgers brings Jersey. UCONN could deliver all of New England. What ever that is considered worth.

 

[Da_Aisijimo_Gou]

Not quite:

Plus, Wake in the low 30s, and The Rent originally designed for relatively easy B1G expansion to 50K to initial references of 55K people.