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Message: [QUOTE="speckle, post: 5013282, member: 13335"] I consider the first part common knowledge. Unless they are playing each other, FSU and Clemson are at the top of the value-add column of every ACC football game. It's part of why they, with UNC, they voted 3-12 against adding the new teams. They also make up a significant proportion of the ACCs CFP pathway, definitely not 1/9th and possibly even the majority, and therefore represent a disproportionate amount of anticipated league revenue. Very simply, they're looking to stop subsidizing the rest of the league and capture their own market value. It's also why the ACC is fighting tooth and nail to keep them from leaving, bc the rest of the league would never get close to same payout without the FSU and Clemson games, ie disproportionate value. The game theory argument works perfectly as there would be significantly less risk associated with the majority of the league electing to amend the bylaws to facilitate a breakup. If you're following the disproportionate value explanation, you can't assume the Louisville, Miami, VT, etc. payouts would continue at their current or future expected rates, which would then make a Big12 membership slot more valuable assuming their current valuation as peers. Finally, while the P12s TV contract had entirely ended and that opened the door for a financially manageable conference exit, the $5m fee is on the books and sets a watermark for future school athletics valuations in legal arguments. When the ACCs contract ends at its original date in under 2 years, the league would be looking for a 20-30X multiple, which is the basis for the "punitive" exit fee argument. I believe there are just too many schools that are better off, sooner, for the ACC to survive much longer. Especially if those schools choose to work together. I'd expect the 12 to be actively involved in all ACC members other than Wake, BC, and maybe Syracuse and SMU. No idea about Cal and Stanford but I wouldn't rule them out of the 10. At some point the 10 will be able to self finance a stand alone network and ESPN/FOX/whomever will either have to pay up or gain a legit competitor. Watch the NCAA tournament on the B1G network lol. [/QUOTE]

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