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Rocktheworld said:
I imagine that, with the ROTC, they did completely different movements and exercises; movements they're not used to performing. And it's the first practice, so their bodies aren't warmed up at all. This kind of stuff is exactly what leads to injury.

Practice 3 would've been just fine. Not seeing the point of it on day 1.
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Agreed.
 
Chief00 said:
Is it ascent or descent?
Regardless, I think you need to get used to Dave Benedict’s management style. He has standards of excellence and there are no sacred cows. Your good old boys network days are over - it’s about performance and execution. I recognize this will be an adjustment for you but we will cheer you up the learning curve.
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You think AD David Benedict will fire an athletic trainer over a shoulder brace. God bless.
 
Stairmaster said:
You think AD David Benedict will fire an athletic trainer over a shoulder brace. God bless.
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It’s not excluded from the assessment for the total body of work. . IDK the details of this one yet. Who was caught napping on this one?
 
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Chief00 said:
It’s not excluded from the assessment for the total body of work. . IDK the details of this one yet. Who was caught napping on this one?
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Maybe he's gone through a couple, got cleared for contact recently, and didnt like how his current one was reacting to contact. . I heard there was a 'no-touch Alterique' policy over the summer.
 
Chief00 said:
It’s not excluded from the assessment for the total body of work. . IDK the details of this one yet. Who was caught napping on this one?
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You were - why didn't you give KO/AD Dave a heads up that the trainer was caught napping? Given how much influence your word holds, you really dropped the ball on this one!
 
Stairmaster said:
You were - why didn't you give KO/AD Dave a heads up that the trainer was caught napping? Given how much influence your word holds, you really dropped the ball on this one!
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As I said, I don’t know details but it’s not a good result and whoever was napping will be talked to.
 
Stairmaster, Dave is going to run it like a business. People are accountable, including KO on this one. Being accountable doesn’t mean someone will be fired for this but it appears to be a screwup and as a couple of guys learned it’s not infinite patience or a snowflake type environment. Mistakes will be followed by coaching up and if that doesn’t work heat.
 
Rocktheworld said:
I imagine that, with the ROTC, they did completely different movements and exercises; movements they're not used to performing. And it's the first practice, so their bodies aren't warmed up at all. This kind of stuff is exactly what leads to injury.

Practice 3 would've been just fine. Not seeing the point of it on day 1.
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I understand the concern, but aren't we assuming that the team was subjected to a level of ROTC training that oversteps the bounds of a first practice? In other words, I'm sure the ROTC also has training exercises of varying degrees of difficulty and we can't say for sure that the players experienced a session that was beyond their fitness level.

I'm sure the ROTC enrolls individuals who are able to pass necessary fitness exams but have nothing close to the fitness level or natural athleticism of these D1 basketball players. Those ROTC enrollees also have first days of training, experiencing movements they are not used to and at a time when their bodies are not warmed up. I'd be surprised if the ROTC subjects those enrollees to a first workout that is highly likely to injure and break. As such, I would expect the ROTC to put the team through a tough workout but a workout that is meant for enrollees at an earlier stage of training. Don't forget, the guys have been on campus and working out for weeks now (cumulating in a 5K only 3 days ago).

Not trying to squash your point. I also worry about pushing athletes too hard too early. But I don't think today's ROTC workout automatically implies that the team was pushed too hard. It's possible they experienced exactly the right difficulty for the position they're in
 
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Kemba2Rememba said:
I understand the concern, but aren't we assuming that the team was subjected to a level of ROTC training that oversteps the bounds of a first practice?
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Well one of them screwed it up so bad he somehow got concussed. Unless they also did some basketball stuff, it's kind of odd that that is one of the injuries that occurred
 
I think its funny how armchair warriors are suggesting ollie is having the players do dangerous things in practice.

1) we have professional trainers.
2) these kids are year-round athletes, not delicate flowers until practice #3.
3) he kept gilbert out... doesnt that show he is focusing on safety?

Get over yourselves, yarders. Theres plenty to criticize about ollie. This isnt it.
 
intlzncster said:
Maybe he's gone through a couple, got cleared for contact recently, and didnt like how his current one was reacting to contact. . I heard there was a 'no-touch Alterique' policy over the summer.
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Yeah - another reason why you can only read so much into the summer games - in his case.
 
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Rocktheworld said:
Well one of them screwed it up so bad he somehow got concussed. Unless they also did some basketball stuff, it's kind of odd that that is one of the injuries that occurred
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“Christian Vital had to go through concussion protocol after taking an elbow to the head on a screen”

“Sophomore Christian Vital, who went to the sidelines after running into a screen, will be checked out for a possible concussion.“
 
From the Day article...

>>Ollie added a twist this year, bringing in ROTC members to run drills at the beginning of the roughly three hour, 45 minute practice. The Huskies did a training session with the ROTC earlier this fall.

"That was a surprise," Adams said. "When we saw a couple of random guys coming into the gym, they looked familiar. They were ready to work. They were pushing us. They had us doing push-ups on command, sit-ups, wall-to-wall sprints. A whole bunch of different workouts. Physically demanding."<<

Seems quite reasonable to me (as long as I’m not being made to participate - then they are as draconian and inappropriate as some are making them out to be);)
 
Stairmaster said:
A) Find the posts where I said that, please.

B) Explain how this has anything to do with skill level and ability to fit in as a lead guard.
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Gilbert is a chronic injury waiting to flare up at any time. That is not somebody who you can rely on to lead the team or be an important piece.

Why is Ollie waiting until now to order a sturdier shoulder brace for Rique? With or without shoulder brace he will be a target for opposing teams. Too many of the same things starting to surface.

PS: If every elbow a UCONN player receives requires mandatory concussion protocols, we're going to be in trouble.
 
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huskiesouth said:
Of course I have no info nor does anyone else as to why a stronger brace for AG’s shoulder was not ordered earlier but to me the optics are not necessarily positive.
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Not so much "optics" as a sledgehammer blow between the eyes. Turns out the kid who was "100% cleared to play" is still being "bothered by his shoulder" and cannot play without strong brace support. Supposedly the strong brace support will not hinder his shooting, passing or defense. Right. Looks like we're down to three guards before the first day of practice is done. Our hope may lie in Polley playing the backup #2 behind Vital.
 
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Huskymagic said:
Gilbert is a chronic injury waiting to flare up at any time. That is not somebody who you can rely on to lead the team or be an important piece.

Why is Ollie waiting until now to order a sturdier shoulder brace for Rique? With or without shoulder brace he will be a target for opposing teams. Too many of the same things starting to surface.

PS: If every elbow a UCONN player receives requires mandatory concussion protocols, we're going to be in trouble.
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Because Ollie is a horrible, unqualified ,coach, no doubt! He didn't see what the great Huskymagic (who should be on staff) saw.
 
huskiesouth said:
Of course I have no info nor does anyone else as to why a stronger brace for AG’s shoulder was not ordered earlier but to me the optics are not necessarily positive.
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I don't know. I'm hearing our chances for Carey are improving.
 
Sphinx said:
KO, as coach, continues to be a person to which "unforeseen things happen," be it two first-day-of-practice injuries or a key player, 100% cleared to play, who can't practice because he doesn't have the right shoulder brace. We all know such individuals, and the prognosis is never good, given that the unforeseen is literally infinite in supply.
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Rocktheworld said:
I imagine that, with the ROTC, they did completely different movements and exercises; movements they're not used to performing. And it's the first practice, so their bodies aren't warmed up at all. This kind of stuff is exactly what leads to injury.

Practice 3 would've been just fine. Not seeing the point of it on day 1.
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I went through ROTC physical training. It is very safe if you are in shape. Mostly running, push ups, sit up and pull ups. The one that can get u injured is field training. It only occurs after your 2nd year n u r excluded if u have any chronic condition like asthma. it's good for building toughness n endurance. injuries r not likely if u r in SHAPE
 
Huskymagic said:
Gilbert is a chronic injury waiting to flare up at any time. That is not somebody who you can rely on to lead the team or be an important piece.

Why is Ollie waiting until now to order a sturdier shoulder brace for Rique? With or without shoulder brace he will be a target for opposing teams. Too many of the same things starting to surface.

PS: If every elbow a UCONN player receives requires mandatory concussion protocols, we're going to be in trouble.
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Some people leave me speechless..............................
 
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