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rvwsleep said:
Fudd started in the championship game vs Australia. She was just getting back into playing, if my memory serves me correctly.
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After re-watching this video, it struck me that the player who changed the most, physically, over the past 6 months is Citron.
 
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Having watched several Dunmore games via generously imbedded thread videos, “C” certainly looks to have an impressive profile & skillset.

However, for those that have studied her tape more extensively, any concern about middling rebounding stats given her 6’4” (she has grown since initial prep line) length & relative size/caliber of her H.S. competition?

I read that she grew up playing guard prior to her growth spurt so comfortable on perimeter, which is clear from her handle, consistent floor spacing, & smooth, rangy shot. Perhaps this guard mindset has thus far restricted her penchant/desire to bang in paint?
 
nomdoux said:
Watching several Dunmore games via generously imbedded thread videos, “C” certainly looks to have an impressive profile & skillset.
However, for those that have studied her tape more extensively, any concern about middling rebounding stats given her 6’4” (she has grown since initial prep line) length & relative size/caliber of her H.S. competition?
I read that she grew up playing guard prior to her growth spurt so comfortable on perimeter, which is clear from her handle, consistent floor spacing, & smooth, rangy shot. Perhaps this guard mindset has thus far restricted her penchant/desire to play physical in paint?
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Yes there have been some concerns. If I'm not mistaken @BobbyJ recently expresses a concern that C might be developing some bad post habits as a result of playing against small players. Hardly a UCONN recruit comes to UCONN without some level of BY concern and many of those concern turn out to be flat out wrong. Full personal disclosure: In the past I was concerned about Megan Walkers shooting, Caroline Ducharme level of HS competition and her foot speed, & Piath late start in basketball. BTW a recent video of C posted last month she remarked that one of the biggest improvements in her game has been the ability to handle contact- which was very very encouraging.
 
I thought that Toomey's competition level was a concern until she faced some elite players in a big tournament and dominated. She shot up the rankings right after. That was when I first heard of her.
 
Sluconn Husky said:
2/3

Sarah Strong full line:

27 points (9-16 FG, 4-6 3-PT, 5-7 FT), 20 rebounds, 5 assists, 2 blocks
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Not to detract from anything that she's doing, but Grace Christian is in the smallest NCISAA classification, 1A, meaning there are fewer than 100 kids 9-12. There is very, very little competition for her at that level.
 
Argonaut said:
Not to detract from anything that she's doing, but Grace Christian is in the smallest NCISAA classification, 1A, meaning there are fewer than 100 kids 9-12. There is very, very little competition for her at that level.
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Your point about the competition is obviously correct. But in evaluating her, it would only concern me if with her size, skillset, and fundamentals, she wasn't consistently the best player on the floor. And it looks like she is. Like most of the top HS talents, she gets her competition in spring and summer AAU events. That's why the majority of D1 programs build their most extensive recruiting schedules around those. From what video I've seen, Strong has a hard to find combination of very good fundamentals inside and out, shooting and ballhandling ability, court vision, and especially size and strength. There are very few kids with that mix. The top programs like UConn are going to be all over her.
 
Thanks for “C” insight, CocoHusky (& BobbyJ).

Re: Sarah Strong, to Argonaut’s point & concurring with BobbyJ’s deft observations, I am less inclined to discount her H.S. stats due to very strong, mature build & developed style of play. She is therefore more apt to sustain such gaudy productivity against better players, though likely at least slightly less prolific owing to step-up in competition caliber.
 
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Argonaut said:
Not to detract from anything that she's doing, but Grace Christian is in the smallest NCISAA classification, 1A, meaning there are fewer than 100 kids 9-12. There is very, very little competition for her at that level.
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Can you please expand on this a little bit. I understand the size of the class but would like to know more specifically about the Christian designation. My daughter went to a private school with a class size of 100 students total but they were power house program because they had the ability to recruit and play a power house schedule both of which public schools (regardless) of size were not able to do.
 
nomdoux said:
Having watched several Dunmore games via generously imbedded thread videos, “C” certainly looks to have an impressive profile & skillset.

However, for those that have studied her tape more extensively, any concern about middling rebounding stats given her 6’4” (she has grown since initial prep line) length & relative size/caliber of her H.S. competition?

I read that she grew up playing guard prior to her growth spurt so comfortable on perimeter, which is clear from her handle, consistent floor spacing, & smooth, rangy shot. Perhaps this guard mindset has thus far restricted her penchant/desire to bang in paint?
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There's an awful lot to like about Toomey's potential, she could definitely become an impact college player. Any concerns I would have about her rebounding and interior defense would obviously only be temporary unless she wasn't doing anything to improve them. But of course I have no way of knowing that. What I've seen so far in her HS games against smaller kids is a tendency not to aggressively box out and attack rebounds even if it's not necessary. And defensively, some reaching over into the shooter's vertical space and swatting instead of going up straight and getting the block a foot or so after the ball leaving the shooter's hand. All correctible if she gets some good instruction for bigs. In fairness to her, I've had many male bigs (6-5 and over) tell me how difficult it is to play as the biggest guy on the floor with a bunch of smalls going around and under them. But it's a good way to learn to focus on solid fundamentals. I think she'll get there.
 
CocoHusky said:
Can you please expand on this a little bit. I understand the size of the class but would like to know more specifically about the Christian designation. My daughter went to a private school with a class size of 100 students total but they were power house program because they had the ability to recruit and play a power house schedule both of which public schools (regardless) of size were not able to do.
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In NC, any of the private schools that are part of the NCISAA can recruit (there are a few Catholic high schools who are part of the NCHSAA who theoretically don't recruit -- see Blanca Thomas at Charlotte Catholic), so the stronger programs tend to be those in the larger classifications. All of them? No, but Grace Christian doesn't play a powerhouse schedule, either. Most of their games are just the other, really small private schools (religious and not) and homeschool groups around the state and in their conference.

The fact that they're religious doesn't really play into anything, and there are plenty of non-religious schools in the NCISAA.
 
I don't see how anyone can watch that USA vs Australia game and not see Betts as the star on that team. Citron showed well also and others like Johnson overall ( including the other games ). Azzi was clearly hurt and not herself. Clark shot 38% for that tournament. Betts shot 64%. Betts should have been the clear MVP.
 
UConnCat said:
Please, for the umpteenth time, let's keep this about players UConn is recruiting and NOT about players who have signed to play for another school. It's not complicated.
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It's like herding cats.
 
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BobbyJ said:
What I've seen so far in [Ciera Toomey’s] HS games against smaller kids is a tendency not to aggressively box out and attack rebounds even if it's not necessary.
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CocoHusky said:
BTW a recent video of C posted last month she remarked that one of the biggest improvements in her game has been the ability to handle contact- which was very very encouraging.
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Agreed, BobbyJ… & encouraging, CocoHusky.

I don’t see “C” beelining to paint when a shot goes up or is anticipated. She drifts or hovers just inside lane near high post, often when a clear unimpeded path to rebounding position is there. Yes, her man is typically outside paint so she’s in proper defensive position until that point. But she seems content to stay there & watch the shot attempt instead of establishing rebounding position.
 
nomdoux said:
Agreed, BobbyJ… & encouraging, CocoHusky.

I don’t see “C” beelining to paint when a shot goes up or is anticipated. She drifts or hovers just inside lane near high post, often when a clear unimpeded path to rebounding position is there. Yes, her man is typically outside paint so she’s in proper defensive position until that point. But she seems content to stay there & watch the shot attempt instead of establishing rebounding position.
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A little supportive screaming from her coach in a quiet gym would help with that. ;)
 
CocoHusky said:
Can you please expand on this a little bit. I understand the size of the class but would like to know more specifically about the Christian designation. My daughter went to a private school with a class size of 100 students total but they were power house program because they had the ability to recruit and play a power house schedule both of which public schools (regardless) of size were not able to do.
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Classes of 25. 12.5 girls? Tough to recruit teams with numbers like that.
 
nomdoux said:
Agreed, BobbyJ… & encouraging, CocoHusky.

I don’t see “C” beelining to paint when a shot goes up or is anticipated. She drifts or hovers just inside lane near high post, often when a clear unimpeded path to rebounding position is there. Yes, her man is typically outside paint so she’s in proper defensive position until that point. But she seems content to stay there & watch the shot attempt instead of establishing rebounding position.
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Often in HS coaches instruct their star players to play soft on defense, assigning lesser players for them to guard in order to avoid having to sit them with fouls.
 
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Alydar said:
Classes of 25. 12.5 girls? Tough to recruit teams with numbers like that.
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No... I said Class size of 100 = ~100 Freshman, 100 Sophomores, 100 Juniors , & 100 Seniors =School size of 400=~200 exceptional young ladies. From these 200 hundred exceptional ladies you have to field a BB team of 10-12 each years. When you combine that with extraordinary academics, and an extraordinary high school coach you have a powerhouse and the recruiting kind of sustains itself.
 
CocoHusky said:
No... I said Class size of 100 = ~100 Freshman, 100 Sophomores, 100 Juniors , & 100 Seniors =School size of 400=~200 exceptional young ladies. From these 200 hundred exceptional ladies you have to field a BB team of 10-12 each years. When you combine that with extraordinary academics, and an extraordinary high school coach you have a powerhouse and the recruiting kind of sustains itself.
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Oooooo. I thought you meant school size of 100.

Sarah Strong’s entire high school, 9-12 and co-ed, has fewer than 100 kids.
 
Mdoggie said:
Anyone on this forum critical of our friend C is no friend of mine! C has EVERYTHING UConn needs in a player and I pray we land her!!! Gooooooo C!
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Does she have the toughness that seems to be missing from the current team? UConn has enough nice, sweet players. Seems as though nice and sweet are traits Boneyarders treasure.
 
donalddoowop said:
Does she have the toughness that seems to be missing from the current team? UConn has enough nice, sweet players. Seems as though nice and sweet are traits Boneyarders treasure.
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Hmmm? I can’t say I know. I just like her skill set. When she gets to UConn, the bangers can teach her if needed.
 
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