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mjmoney23 said:
This started maybe 10 years or so ago when ticketmaster created "platinum" seats which are seats from the box office as resale prices. It did not seem as egregious at the time as they were there but it wasn't many. Also around this time, dynamic pricing became a thing and that raised prices significantly putting face value from the box office closer to resale prices. They would lower if the event wasnt selling, as i have seen first hand with concert and WWE tickets. From here it has morphed to in some cases sections being labeled as platinum from the on-sale. Comparing Husky home game tickets to other sports and events is a bit difficult as the model is completely different, but the big picture os the same as they also coat more than before. The sticking point is that the prices have gone up a lot, but if you have season tickets you do not need to deal with the platinum nonsense as you do for other events. The game in Boston will be interesting in terms of how many seats are sold. I find the get in price of $103 to be too high. Last year vs Gonzaga at MSG, we were in for under $100 a ticket, that is the barometer I am using. I can see a promotion closer to game time with those prices to move seats.

The big takeaways from ticket sales I think are pretty clear cut:
-Many concerts and sporting event tickets were actually being sold for less than they commanded previously. This goes back to the point someone made earlier about waiting to camp out for tickets the day before they went on sale. Those tickets could be resold for multiple times face value in many instances showing the promoter left alot of meat on the bone in terms of the box office price. Ticketmaster wised up and adjusted accordingly. Smart business, awful for the consumer.
-Since 2020-2021, people seem more eager to go to events. To me that level of engagement has not dropped back to pre-2020 levels, thus keeping prices up.
-One segment I look at is WWE for tickets. They traditionally were a great value for a family to go to, outside of major shows which would be expected to me more expensive. The prices for a seat now are more in line with concerts. You may get lucky and get a deal closer to the event, but overall you are paying a lot more. Wrestling is unique as it's a cyclical business and business is hot at the moment. We will see when the business has a cooling off period how tickets move.

Can we also talk about the ridiculous consession prices? The worst 2 venues for a beer are Gampel and the what, $12 or $14, 16 oz Miller Lites? This was outdone by the Meadows where 2 beers was $43 with tax. Then again, there were folks with lines of cans under their seats so price meets demand.
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And to think we used to go to nickel night and damned be the person who got up from their stool. $1.25 covered a couple of us for hours.
 
Waquoit said:
Not for me. It's pass/fail. Live is better even in a sub-optimal seat. I was in nosebleed in Tampa 1999, nobody at home had it better than me.
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So you’re saying if you don’t go in person, you don’t watch at all?
 
NJHusky said:
So it’s your fault we didn’t best Flórida last year. :) You need to be sure to drink with your buddy at all future Ncaa games to sustain those scoring streaks !!
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I understand it now (Lethal Shooter IYKYK) ... will try not to miss another

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Waquoit said:
Of course not. I said "live is better". It's right there in black and white. Should I have put it in bold?
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Sorry, your response disagreeing with me that the TV product now being better than it has been and being “pass/fail” was confusing. Don’t think bolding would have helped but appreciate the offer.
 
I had season tickets for the Jets in the old Meadowlands. Then they wanted to force seat licenses onto us as they built Metlife. I said no thanks. Like these mega rich greedy NFL owners need to get a loan from me, and further more want me to carry the risk. I bought a great flatscreen. Turns out not getting the seats was the best investment I never made.
 
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cordeodato said:
I had season tickets for the Jets in the old Meadowlands. Then they wanted to force seat licenses onto us as they built Metlife. I said no thanks. Like these mega rich greedy NFL owners need to a loan from me, and further more want me to carry the risk. I bought a great flatscreen. Turns out not getting the seats was the best investment I never made.
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I think a big issue there is the JETS asking you to pay 10s of thousands to watch them vomit on themselves weekly.

I bought a PSL for the new Bills stadium after thinking I wouldn’t because it was only about 2k stretched out over 2 years and I’ll be damned if I miss them open next season as Super Bowl champs in their new digs.
 
cordeodato said:
I had season tickets for the Jets in the old Meadowlands. Then they wanted to force seat licenses onto us as they built Metlife. I said no thanks. Like these mega rich greedy NFL owners need to a loan from me, and further more want me to carry the risk. I bought a great flatscreen. Turns out not getting the seats was the best investment I never made.
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This! You can refresh your a/v tech in your man cave every year for the price of any one of these events. That’s a huge difference than in the past.
 
Lol, my buddy got one of those deals from Verizon, and they kept trying to incentivize him to change his plan. He was like "the math ain't mathing". It made more sense to buy his phones himself and keep his dirt cheap plan.
 
I live 15 miles west of Chicago. Here is my yearly average of live events attended.
UConn mbb 3 regular season games(Marquette, DePaul, one other road game) BET once every four years
Cubs/Sox 10 games
Bears 2 games Always 1 away game
Bulls 1 game
Blackhawks 1game
Concerts 8-10
 
I feel for everyone who can't afford tickets but simultaneously sports at the highest level is a rich person's business. In the end, I'd rather have my teams great and decide I can only afford a game or two than have them stink and be able to choose my seat in an empty arena.
 
cordeodato said:
I had season tickets for the Jets in the old Meadowlands. Then they wanted to force seat licenses onto us as they built Metlife. I said no thanks. Like these mega rich greedy NFL owners need to get a loan from me, and further more want me to carry the risk. I bought a great flatscreen. Turns out not getting the seats was the best investment I never made.
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The Giants PSLs at Met Life resell these days for about 25% of the original cost
 
BuffaloHusky said:
I feel for everyone who can't afford tickets but simultaneously sports at the highest level is a rich person's business. In the end, I'd rather have my teams great and decide I can only afford a game or two than have them stink and be able to choose my seat in an empty arena.
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I've done White Sox season ticket packages in the past where I pay $7 per game and pick all the games I want and sit wherever I want to watch them play the Yankees, Dodgers, Red Sox etc. and they would throw in a crosstown game against the Cubs. It's pretty nice paying so little to watch good teams in an empty stadium.
 
husky8273 said:
The Giants PSLs at Met Life resell these days for about 25% of the original cost
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That's what happens when you stink for so long. A good friend of mine has Giants season tickets and he still complains about how much he had to shell out for PSLs.
 
I do have some sympathy for the guy and wish TN could have tried to work something better out, at least get him a seat somewhere in the upper part of the lower level for a slightly increased price. With that said, large yearly price hikes is the new normal throughout most sports.

I used the share season tickets until I moved further away from both venues, and before the cost of doing so increased dramatically. I do miss live action and the roar of the croud...well at least when the the lazy spoiled fans managed to rip their hands from beneath their asses.

I'm fine catching most of the games on my large flat screen TV, where I can watch replays, rewind the action whenever I want to, stuff my face with as many snacks for a 10th of the cost and hit pause whenever I don't want to wait for a commercial break when I need to hit the porcelain thrown. And of course, I'm all tucked in and cozy in my bed before most fans circle their way out of the parking garage.

It's great that there are plenty of fans that can afford the tickets, parking, etc. and want to watch every home game, and even some who travel to catch them on the road. Big time props to all of you who do that.
 
I got to see my Angels play the A's last season in Oakland. For $8 I got a bobble head Canseco and was 2 rows behind the 1st baseman.

There's always going to be opportunities, but while the Universe delivers, it's timing is not gonna fit everyone's schedule.
 
NoSpamHere said:
This! You can refresh your a/v tech in your man cave every year for the price of any one of these events. That’s a huge difference than in the past.
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True that - probably every 4 years will do but then it's accessibility. On Fox and CBS a good HD antenna and a 4k/8k screen is great..but they tend to send these games to streaming only like Peacock and Fox Sports and then you get into paying streaming services more.
 
huskymedic said:
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LOL! This is nothing. It was over 20 years ago when Lew Perkins kicked Phog Allen's grandson out of his seats in the Phog Allen Fieldhouse. He could have kept them it he ponied up.
 
Waquoit said:
... Live is better even in a sub-optimal seat. I was in nosebleed in Tampa 1999, nobody at home had it better than me.
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I watched the game alone in my apartment in Durham, NC while going to Fuqua/Duke ... was too broke to go to make the trip, but kinda glad I didn't

... watching the disassembly of the campus pre-configured bonfire on TV, was pretty satisfying
 
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It was inevitable once the court cases came down declaring college sports some some huge multi-billion dollar business. The truth is that it's marketing for colleges and loses money. Now that schools must pay up to the athletes, beyond what they already did with tuition, room and board, coaching, uniforms, medical, nutrition, facilities and more it had to be funded somehow. It's not "greed" because the schools still lose money on these sports. The court cases didn't really address the factual reality that fans cheer for the laundry and now we're paying for it. Make smart choices on what you spend.

As for concerts, the whole music industry did a 180. My father in law was part of it and saw it coming. A concert used to be a way to promote record sales. They didn't make any real money from the shows, they made money selling records (Dead being maybe the exception). Once music went digital to CDs, copying killed record sales and streaming was the nail in the coffin. Now, almost nobody makes any real money off of recordings, it all comes from live shows. So yes, that concert that was $12 in the 80s is now $180 because it has to fund everything.
 
beerfan said:
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beerfan- - -When I was in HS (1960-1964) I got season tickets to the NY Football Giants at Yankee Stadium.
I gave them up in 1965 because I went to College in MO.
I paid $49.00 for season tickets, with seats 20 rows back from the Yankee dugout in the end zone! Seven home games at $7.00 a game!
You can't go to the men's room for $49.00 today at Giants Stadium!
 
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