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WhereistheDove? said:
Genuinely curious, do you have one example of a past UConn player that was a 2 in HS and 2 in college before turning into a PG at college or the pros? I’m not talking combo guards, I’m talking clear SG like Solo has been.
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The NBA tried putting Dyson at PG during his short stint there.

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There’s also Westbrook who played next to Collison at UCLA if you want to go outside of the small UConn bubble. Which has been the comp for Solo this whole time.

I think Boatright may have been considered a 2G in high school despite his size and then he went through our PG training to do what he did his senior year. Took 4 years to do though (even though he probably could’ve took over his junior year if necessary just fine).
 
HW611 said:
The NBA tried putting Dyson at PG during his short stint there.

There’s also Westbrook who played next to Collison at UCLA if you want to go outside of the small UConn bubble. Which has been the comp for Solo this whole time.
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I feel like using two examples of Westbrook, who was a HS PG recruited as a PG and who played his entire career as a combo/point, and Dyson, who you had to say “the NBA tried” at PG, is kind of proving the point here.
 
Mr. French said:
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You're confusing me more than normal.

You are the one that's been saying a 2G should be able to develop into a PG with work. No one else thinks that.
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I get it - you think for everyone else here.
Have you ever coached before at any level?
 
gtcam said:
I get it - you think for everyone else here.
Have you ever coached before at any level?
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None of them have or they’re bad at it. Which is why they can’t comprehend the thought of development or what goes into it.

All coaches are responsible for is drawing up Xs and Os and the players are either born with skills or not is what I gather.

No point in working to learn a skill because it’s just impossible apparently. Lol
 
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HW611 said:
Here you go making stuff up literally
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And also listed as a PG in places because he’s clearly been a combo guard. His only year starting at UCLA he averaged more assists than Collison (#1 on that UCLA squad) and nearly triple the assists Solo did last year. This is not the comp you think it is.
 
HW611 said:
The NBA tried putting Dyson at PG during his short stint there.

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There’s also Westbrook who played next to Collison at UCLA if you want to go outside of the small UConn bubble. Which has been the comp for Solo this whole time.

I think Boatright may have been considered a 2G in high school despite his size and then he went through our PG training to do what he did his senior year. Took 4 years to do though (even though he probably could’ve took over his junior year if necessary just fine).
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Solo Westbrook comp was like really uncommon, and the only thing compared was measurables. Their game couldn’t be more different.
 
HW611 said:
Here you go making stuff up literally
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The double down!

Solo Ball and those two guys are entirely different types of athletes. I was mislead into thinking Solo had higher physical upside before last season, based on measurements. He's just not that, not nearly the high twitch springy athlete they are. I don't care what his vertical is. Westbrook specifically was a rabid defender and a fast break waiting to happen. I didn't see one demonstration out of Solo, not one last year, of an explosive athlete . I saw a super silky jumper.

Do you think that Russell Westbrook was ever the 1500th ranked defensive player in college basketball, at any point in his college career? He was Pac10 DPOY.

I know this ridicuous thread is about showcasing Solo at PG for his NBA potential. We don't need it, we have two PG's already. We don't need to experiment, we have the ability as a program to attract ready made players in glaring holes. Bringing them in was intentional because the staff saw enough of Solo's ballhandling (so did we) last year to know he's not it.

Westbrook was a late bloomer that grew a ton late in HS, grew up a PG. Grew 7 inches late in HS.
 
WhereistheDove? said:
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And also listed as a PG in places because he’s clearly been a combo guard. His only year starting at UCLA he averaged more assists than Collison (#1 on that UCLA squad) and nearly triple the assists Solo did last year. This is not the comp you think it is.
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Where did you find that, On3?

Cause look at this.


Almost like it’s a good comparison or something.

Solo should be putting the Ball on the floor a lot more this year and creating. I wouldn’t be surprised if he lead the team in assists now that he’s doing that.
 
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RuffRuff said:
Westbrook was a late bloomer that grew a ton late in HS, grew up a PG. Grew 7 inches late in HS.
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Good comp right down to the late bloomer that grew 7 inches in HS. Lol
 

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HW611 said:
Good comp right down to the late bloomer that grew 7 inches in HS. Lol
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The triple down!

How do you explain that Russell Westbrook was the Pac12 DPOY as a sophomore, and Solo Ball was ranked one of the worst defenders in the country last year? Let me break it down - Russell is a far better athlete, had incredible footspeed. Let me guess, Solo didn't go through the Calhoun school of defense? There is zero comparison in the two of them, as in 0.

At some point in your narratives, if you want to pose yourself as someone who isn't tunnel vision, you have to start processing the other side of the argument with some light bulbs that go off, rather than just beating a drum.
 
HW611 said:
Good comp right down to the late bloomer that grew 7 inches in HS. Lol
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Yeah, and everything in that report is pretty much just not the case right now. Often the opposite is the reality, actually.

That’s the thing, pretty much every recruit can do what they want in high school, college is a totally different animal, as we can see, you know, with our eyes.
 
CardiacAndre7 said:
Yeah, and everything in that report is pretty much just not the case right now. Often the opposite is the reality, actually.

That’s the thing, pretty much every recruit can do what they want in high school, college is a totally different animal, as we can see, you know, with our eyes.
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Or it’s that d word you all don’t believe in on here.

We did with Solo what we’ve done with every HS player we’ve recruited since 2022… made him a shooter lol
 
HW611 said:
Or it’s that d word you all don’t believe on here
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No. Russ is an awful shooter, Solo is a great shooter.

Russ is virtually the most explosive guard we have ever seen, Solo has a middling first step and doesn’t launch when attacking the rim.

Russ is top-10 in assists all time and is an incredible playmaker, pick and roll operator, and transition leader, Solo has never showed that.

Solo has been a very poor defender, Russ in college and into the pros was a lockdown defender due to agility, anticipation, etc.

They aren’t similar players at all and never have been. End of story.
 
superjohn said:
Get ready for that Solo at the point, Jacob Ross at shooting guard, and Jayden Ross at small forward lineup!
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Well, at least we could be pretty confident that won't be on the opposing team's scout.
 
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HW611 said:
The NBA tried putting Dyson at PG during his short stint there.

www.basketball-reference.com

Jerome Dyson Stats, Height, Weight, Position, Draft Status and more | Basketball-Reference.com

Checkout the latest stats of Jerome Dyson. Get info about his position, age, height, weight, draft status, shoots, school and more on Basketball-Reference.com
www.basketball-reference.com www.basketball-reference.com

There’s also Westbrook who played next to Collison at UCLA if you want to go outside of the small UConn bubble. Which has been the comp for Solo this whole time.

I think Boatright may have been considered a 2G in high school despite his size and then he went through our PG training to do what he did his senior year. Took 4 years to do though (even though he probably could’ve took over his junior year if necessary just fine).
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No would have been the proper answer.
 
Mr. French said:
I think just playing, watching, coaching and observing basketball for 40 years?

Not seeing any natural 2Gs magically become PGs because they did some handling work?
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Even in our own history under Calhoun, which HW loves to cite, did we see guys magically develop as ball handlers when they weren't coming in? Did Rashad Anderson become a better ball handler in four years? Did Dyson? Brian Fair?
 
Excalibur said:
Even in our own history under Calhoun, which HW loves to cite, did we see guys magically develop as ball handlers when they weren't coming in? Did Rashad Anderson become a better ball handler in four years? Did Dyson? Brian Fair?
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Oh man, you just had to ask didn't you? Not sure love is the right word, blind obsession may be more appropriate.

Wait for it............................ t-minus the examples.
 
HW611 said:
Solo should be putting the Ball on the floor a lot more this year and creating. I wouldn’t be surprised if he lead the team in assists now that he’s doing that.
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This has to be a bit, right? There’s zero chance he’s finishing with more assists than Demary. I am truly confused by what you think this offense will be this year. Even if he filled the Cam role, which is miles away from the skillset he’s shown, Cam averaged 2.6 APG less than Newton. And 2 less than Diarra had last year.
 
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So, HW has completely derailed two different threads at this point? Well done. And using high school scouting reports as proof of anything is kind of asinine. Kirk King was called a SF with ball handling and perimeter skills, Roscoe Smith was called the best shooting wing in HS, and Taliek Brown was a scoring machine. And those are just some of the ones off the top of my head.
 
HW611 said:
Or it’s that d word you all don’t believe in on here.

We did with Solo what we’ve done with every HS player we’ve recruited since 2022… made him a shooter lol
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Hurley didn't "turn him" into a shooter, despite your constant assertions to the contrary he already was one. Yes, some of the recruiting sites raved about his athleticism, ability to get downhill, etc, but his HS tape shows a really athletic kid who was great in transition and had a pure shooting stroke, not someone who regularly broke down defenders. Regardless of what some recruiting site may have said based on what he was able to do against high school kids that he outclassed athletically, it was clear to anyone with eyes and any ability to assess talent that from minute one of game one that Solo's best skill was shooting.
 
boog204 said:
So, HW has completely derailed two different threads at this point? Well done. And using high school scouting reports as proof of anything is kind of asinine. Kirk King was called a SF with ball handling and perimeter skills, Roscoe Smith was called the best shooting wing in HS, and Taliek Brown was a scoring machine. And those are just some of the ones off the top of my head.
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Basically the Skip Bayless of the Boneyard - will throw out insane hot takes with weird premise and stand by them until face turns blue, and will stir the audience up like a bunch of chickens with a fox in the coup.
 
Excalibur said:
Hurley didn't "turn him" into a shooter, despite your constant assertions to the contrary he already was one. Yes, some of the recruiting sites raved about his athleticism, ability to get downhill, etc, but his HS tape shows a really athletic kid who was great in transition and had a pure shooting stroke, not someone who regularly broke down defenders. Regardless of what some recruiting site may have said based on what he was able to do against high school kids that he outclassed athletically, it was clear to anyone with eyes and any ability to assess talent that from minute one of game one that Solo's best skill was shooting.
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You could tell Solo’s best skill was shooting from a game he went 0 for 3?

Kudos
 
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