Eye Opening Article

[CTBasketball]

http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/07/us/ncaa-athletes-reading-scores/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

Really sad and frustrating that the school dishes out thousands of dollars of scholarship money a year to some kids that can't read or write.

 

[TXHuskyFan]

http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/07/us/ncaa-athletes-reading-scores/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

Really sad and frustrating that the school dishes out thousands of dollars of scholarship money a year to some kids that can't read or write.

And in today's news, the sky is blue and bears s@&t in the woods.

 

[huskyharry]

The NCAA has already given their response...move along, nothing to see here.

NCAA's motive: integrity be damned, we cannot afford to do anything else to make Big Football angry with us.

 

[David 76]

Sad. Also sad is that the NCAA never addresses major issues like this or Penn State but only focuses on minutia.

 

[babysheep]

Sad. Also sad is that the NCAA never addresses major issues like this or Penn State but only focuses on minutia.

The real sad part is the NCAA's compulsion to involve itself in a completely non-academic- and non-sports-related issue in Penn State, while a MASSIVE academic scandal directly involving an entire athletic department is swept under the rug.

 

[Stinger92860]

The real sad part is the NCAA's compulsion to involve itself in a completely non-academic- and non-sports-related issue in Penn State, while a MASSIVE academic scandal directly involving an entire athletic department is swept under the rug.

Sorry but when a young boy is raped in an athletic shower by a former football coach and the current head football coach looks the other way it's sports related. Mind you it was also reported by an active assistant. Might you be Joe's son?

 

[babysheep]

Might you be Joe's son?

C'mon bro.

What did the crimes have to do with sportss? You're failing to see that this is not an sports and/or academic issue, such as involving some kind of cheating. The fact that it happened in the athletic department is inconsequential. These weren't sport or academic crimes; they were simpler, but bigger crimes against human beings.

 

[kyle]

UNC has a great barber school

 

[Stinger92860]

C'mon bro.

What did the crimes have to do with sportss? You're failing to see that this is not an sports and/or academic issue, such as involving some kind of cheating. The fact that it happened in the athletic department is inconsequential. These weren't sport or academic crimes; they were simpler, but bigger crimes against human beings.

I disagree, the sports environment there led to the Sandusky mess. The coverup was was led by Paterno and the athletic program.

 

[Waquoit]

I say, so what? The players in question are probably better off on campus than anywhere else they might be at that point in their life. I'll save my hand-wringing for other things.

 

[geordi]

I disagree, the sports environment there led to the Sandusky mess. The coverup was was led by Paterno and the athletic program.

Wow! I didn't know the Catholic Church had an athletic department!!!

 

[Kitaman]

Star athletes get perks in high school, hell I could skip classes and still be passed through. Not being able to read or write is the problem of the high school not colleges.

Its certainly not new, and it won't go away either. $$$ matter more.

 

[Chin Diesel]

Well, truth be told if your degree is in sociology, african american studies, political science or many other liberal arts disciplines it often leads to a career as a barber. Or a barista.

 

[Chin Diesel]

And the irony that many of the players at the schools being profiled can't read what's being said about them or their school.

 

[Tenspro2002]

Just listening to athletes give post-game interviews, it amazes me how some of them could be accepted to these universities and pass the same classes as everyone else. They're not even on the same planet, intellectually, as the average college student.

 

[Chin Diesel]

Just listening to athletes give post-game interviews, it amazes me how some of them could be accepted to these universities and pass the same classes as everyone else. They're not even on the same planet, intellectually, as the average college student.

AJ McCarron's mom agrees with you.

 

[CTBasketball]

I think the blame falls on the athlete more than anyone else. They chose not to learn anything in high school because they'll get a college scholarship.

 

[Palatine]

The real sad part is the NCAA's compulsion to involve itself in a completely non-academic- and non-sports-related issue in Penn State, while a MASSIVE academic scandal directly involving an entire athletic department is swept under the rug.

Children being raped in athletic facilities by coaches while other coaches and athletic administrators knew about it is a sports related issue. What are you thinking?

 

[upstater]

Well, truth be told if your degree is in sociology, african american studies, political science or many other liberal arts disciplines it often leads to a career as a barber. Or a barista.

And business. Don't forget business degrees.

 

[babysheep]

I disagree, the sports environment there led to the Sandusky mess. The coverup was was led by Paterno and the athletic program.

There also has clearly been some kind of cover-up at UNCheat, over academics. The cover-up at PSU was over sexual assault. When it was alleged that Wolf assaulted someone, as a member of our athletic department, did the NCAA do anything? When AJ and co were stealing laptops? I actually don't remember but the answer there would be important here. My point is that as horrific as the crimes committed by many at PSU were, no unfair advantage in the academic or sports aspect was acheived or persued, and I believe thats the line the NCAA should stop at. You sure have a point that the athletic department supported the ongoing transgressions of an awful criminal.

Let's say that it's revealed that KO runs a cocaine ring or something criminal that does not involve academics or the court. On what grounds would you say that the NCAA can step in?

 

[freescooter]

http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/07/us/ncaa-athletes-reading-scores/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

Really sad and frustrating that the school dishes out thousands of dollars of scholarship money a year to some kids that can't read or write.

I have 2 words for you: Nate Miles. My guess is that when and if the UConn data is made available, we'll show the same range as everyone else. I remember reading somewhere that as part of UConn's APR appeal that one of the reasons the school gave to justify the appeal was that while during the period in question the average SAT scores for recruits was in the low 800s (810 sticks in my mind but might be wrong) it had recently increased to the mid 900s. Note over the average SATs for the general student body was approaching 1200. While one can certainly quibble with how well SATs predict college performance, I think they are generally accepted as a pretty good measure of current knowledge (eg what did you learn in high school).

 

[freescooter]

Well, truth be told if your degree is in sociology, african american studies, political science or many other liberal arts disciplines it often leads to a career as a barber. Or a barista.

But that gets to what has become the bastardization of the college experience. It never was designed to be career training. The original intent was to provide well educated people who could ultimately perform in many different careers. Universities should provide a more broad-based "classical" education.

 

[ctchamps]

I have 2 words for you: Nate Miles. My guess is that when and if the UConn data is made available, we'll show the same range as everyone else. I remember reading somewhere that as part of UConn's APR appeal that one of the reasons the school gave to justify the appeal was that while during the period in question the average SAT scores for recruits was in the low 800s (810 sticks in my mind but might be wrong) it had recently increased to the mid 900s. Note over the average SATs for the general student body was approaching 1200. While one can certainly quibble with how well SATs predict college performance, I think they are generally accepted as a pretty good measure of current knowledge (eg what did you learn in high school).

And your point is?

Most of us have argued the problem is universal! Not only are universities gaming the entry requirements, they are gaming the classes their student athletes take and the grades they receive. UConn, under Hathaway, was at a disadvantage to these other programs. I would applaud Hathaway if his objectives were based on integrity. But it wasn't. The guy did not have integrity. It was a power play to take out two strong male egos. His treatment of RE and JC is the major factor, if not the singular factor, for UConn being in the current predicament concerning CR.

I have no problem with people discussing UConn's dirt. I have a problem when it is singled out. I have a particular problem when someone is angry about the dirt and is angry about UConn's conference situation. If UConn is playing by the rules, or punished while other programs aren't, UConn is at a disadvantage. At the time of Nate Miles, it was stated that this entire system was a farce and needed to be investigated. People thought this argument was making excuses for UConn. It was anything but that. The NCAA made a couple of busts and the public felt comfortable that the governing powers were being diligent. They weren't. This process is no different than taking out a few lower level drug sellers while the majority of the big players stay free. The public is either too tired, too stupid or too apathetic to determine if the actions are meaningful.

 

[sledog]

Must be part of the new 'equality' thing by Democrats.

 

[freescooter]

And your point is?

Most of us have argued the problem is universal! Not only are universities gaming the entry requirements, they are gaming the classes their student athletes take and the grades they receive. UConn, under Hathaway, was at a disadvantage to these other programs. I would applaud Hathaway if his objectives were based on integrity. But it wasn't. The guy did not have integrity. It was a power play to take out two strong male egos. His treatment of RE and JC is the major factor, if not the singular factor, for UConn being in the current predicament concerning CR.

I have no problem with people discussing UConn's dirt. I have a problem when it is singled out. I have a particular problem when someone is angry about the dirt and is angry about UConn's conference situation. If UConn is playing by the rules, or punished while other programs aren't, UConn is at a disadvantage. At the time of Nate Miles, it was stated that this entire system was a farce and needed to be investigated. People thought this argument was making excuses for UConn. It was anything but that. The NCAA made a couple of busts and the public felt comfortable that the governing powers were being diligent. They weren't. This process is no different than taking out a few lower level drug sellers while the majority of the big players stay free. The public is either too tired, too stupid or too apathetic to determine if the actions are meaningful.

I don't disagree with any of that. I was just reacting to someone who seemed to be implying that UConn would never do what North Carolina did. I agree that it is universal, or nearly universal and it is disgusting.