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Espn. What happened?

I only watch HQ, PTI, and live games. SportsCenter is just like “a bunch of dads trying to be cool.” To me.
 
Rocktheworld said:
I think I’ve only seen this mentioned once, and it’s insane that that’s the case.

ESPN over-payed for NBA and NFL contracts that didn’t pan out and they took huge losses. Thus, they couldn’t keep their talent around who was the real reason anyone watched in the first place. It’s going to be a weird analogy, but when YouTube exploded in popularity in the late 00s, there were dozens and dozens of successful gaming channels. Nearing a decade later, there are very few. The ones who have sustained success, outlasting the presence of a massive pool of options, did so through their engaging personality. Any dope can upload a gaming video of them kicking ass at Call of Duty, but over time as the market was saturated, channels maintained their followings because of their personalities and charisma.

Anyone on tv or the internet can upload highlights and stats; but this saturation of the market wasn’t ESPN’s undoing. It was their inability to keep personalities and segments like Primetime around, which set them apart from other reporting services. There wasn’t anything particularly special about Primetime, to stick with that example. It was Berman, TJ, and their chemistry. Besides the entertainment factor, ESPN couldn’t even keep around their best analysts, another thing that set them apart. Now, it’s half highlights by some no-name, and/or drama reporting
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They lost Primetime because they lost the rights to the highlights in that window lol - the exact opposite of your premise.

They can afford whatever talent they want. They know it’s the opposite they are almost all completely fungible.
 
Most of these posts are missing the point. The format of the old sportscenter is obsolete. Some of you may want to sit down and watch a full hour of every sports highlight from that day but with access to highlights instantly available on any cell phone, the market is not. The idea that their shift to opinion is causing this is backwards. The market shift is causing them to try to replace those highlight shows with something, which admittedly, I don't really find all that worthwhile to watch either.
 
WhereistheDove? said:
Most of these posts are missing the point. The format of the old sportscenter is obsolete. Some of you may want to sit down and watch a full hour of every sports highlight from that day but with access to highlights instantly available on any cell phone, the market is not. The idea that their shift to opinion is causing this is backwards. The market shift is causing them to try to replace those highlight shows with something, which admittedly, I don't really find all that worthwhile to watch either.
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Weird that FS1 gave up and pretty much all the RSNs have given up on nightly highlight shows. That Canadian SC from TSN they moved to FS1 literally had no viewers.

ESPNNews and CNN/SI aren’t around (I know News still is a channel but it’s not 24 hours a day SC.

I guess only ESPN is stupid for not hitting the golden jackpot of nightly highlights for an hour narrated by irreverant hosts.
 
whaler11 said:
They lost Primetime because they lost the rights to the highlights in that window lol - the exact opposite of your premise.

They can afford whatever talent they want. They know it’s the opposite they are almost all completely fungible.
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Yeah, NBC bought the time slot when they bought Sunday Night Football.

Why did the shift to Monday kill it off?
 
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A few people have said the way we consume information is different, following it up with how you can get highlights on your phone. I'd add to that the fact that we have moved away from sitting in front of a screen at a given time for "appointment TV".

I remember the finales of Seinfeld and Cheers and how you were just in front of your TV on those half hour time slots each week. Now, everything streams off YouTube and Netflix and people binge watch things. ESPN Sportscenter just isn't an appointment event like it used to be.
 
So espns two options are to stay with the current new format - which everyone hates or go back to the old ways of highlights which will please some people ? Hmmmm sounds simple to me. Some is better than none.
 
Rocktheworld said:
Yeah, NBC bought the time slot when they bought Sunday Night Football.

Why did the shift to Monday kill it off?
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Primetime? You want Primetime to air 16 hours after the games?

Primetime would have been killed by RedZone anyway.
 
JB75 said:
So espns two options are to stay with the current new format - which everyone hates or go back to the old ways of highlights which will please some people ? Hmmmm sounds simple to me. Some is better than none.
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The one you think pleases some people comes with lower ratings. I know they seem stupid but they aren’t as stupid as you think because Clay Travis says so and you have a bubble of people who agree with you.

You only think you want 1994 SportsCenter.
 
I understand what you’re saying but Seinfeld and cheers weekly shows at a specific time slot - I was merely just tuning in late night after the nightly big game to catch some highlights. There’s 24 hours in a day they can do an hour morning sports center and an evening one to recap the days events that’s 2 to 3 hours out of 24 that leaves you 20 hours to fill the rest with analysts and human interest stories for hours at a 24 is asking too much
 
Sorry typo. I meant they “can’t “ 4 hours of highlights in a 24 hour day is asking too much? Fill the rest with nonsense Who cares. What u got to lose ?
 
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JB75 said:
You know one person right now young or old who loves the new ESPN in the direction it’s going? I work with kids all day and they don’t seem to care... again , ESPN use your brains and target your core (30-50) or you ll soon be as irrelevant as blockbuster, dvds or mtv
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Contact ESPN.com
 
JB75 said:
Sorry typo. I meant they “can’t “ 4 hours of highlights in a 24 hour day is asking too much? Fill the rest with nonsense Who cares. What u got to lose ?
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....ratings and to that end, money. That is what they have to lose.
 
whaler11 said:
Primetime? You want Primetime to air 16 hours after the games?

Primetime would have been killed by RedZone anyway.
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I mean it still preceded MNF, just one more game in between... again I watched the show for Berman and TJ more than anything else. Wouldn’t matter to me.
 
JB75 said:
So espns two options are to stay with the current new format - which everyone hates or go back to the old ways of highlights which will please some people ? Hmmmm sounds simple to me. Some is better than none.
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Will someone please think of JB75’s needs here people!
 
Rocktheworld said:
I mean it still preceded MNF, just one more game in between... again I watched the show for Berman and TJ more than anything else. Wouldn’t matter to me.
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You want an hour on NFL highlights 24 hours after the game ends to hear Chris Berman yell?

Yeah I guess there are all sorts of fetishes.
 
Robertelamin said:
Things I love about ESPN:

1. ESPY’s
2. X-Games
3. LeBron James breaking news.

Things I hate about ESPN:

1. Sports - Boring!
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They really missed the boat letting Taylor Rooks slip away and get her own show on another network. Would’ve captured about half the audience on The Boneyard. Not @JMick tho, he’s too busy checking out sweet welds on garage-art.com
 
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Lol I kno. Was just saying primetime was great - Red zone is everything I cud ask for - Last thing I’ll say - if I want to see a crazy play or a sick dunk I’ll check it on my phone or laptop or tablet or whatever but if I want to see a comprehensive highlight show neatly done and packaged up nicely nothing beat espn. You can’t get that on your iPhone that’s the point I’m trying to make - I understand the easy access of the highlights took away some of the luster of sports center but you can’t tell me that’s the main reason for It’s decline. And to respond to the “ratings to lose” response - we’ll i find it hard to believe the ratings for espn cud be worse than they are now.
 
Thx Mano. Lol. Ok I’m done. On a positive note , tell me this isnt the best time of year ? football starting up baseball playoffs around the corner , uconn hoops and b-ball in full swing come November. nothing beats October November if you’re a sports fan
 
goskis2018 said:
Maybe I'm a statistical anomaly but me and alot of guys I know stopped watching ESPN because of politics. Not necessarily in the traditional sense of I'm boycotting ESPN because they are liberals but more so in the why on Earth is ESPN political in the first place. It's just unpleasant and uncomfortable to mix sports and politics. 22 by the way
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Your first inclination was correct. There are 300 million people in this country; you and your buddies may be an exception to the rule, but you don't disprove it.
 
ESPN takes too much time to consume quite frankly. I want targeted highlights of teams/games I want to watch. Don't wanna have to sit around wading through all the extra clips, on top of commercials.
 
the Q said:
He’s the star of Sunday night Baseball. They need to upgrade that team.
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I'm apparently listening to a different broadcast than a few on here, so it must be me. I thought he sounded like a genius. Couldn't decide who his MVP was and the lady with them liked Mookie because of his athletic at-bats. Just stupid. I just found the whole thing to be dreadful and uninformative.
 
Eh, maybe they’re not all bad:

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I definitely can relate to how watching NFL prime time after the Sunday games was a must watch. I used to find out if my Panthers won or lost with those high lights. Tick tick tick tick tick .
 
JB75 said:
I understand people can now get thier highlights on their phone in an instant or any other way but sometimes you just want to sit down after a long day and watch some damn highlights which covers everything that happened in sports for that day. Unreal.
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I couldn't agree more. I absolutely despise smartphone culture and the effects that mobile internet has had on us as a society.
 
Stainmaster said:
Your first inclination was correct. There are 300 million people in this country; you and your buddies may be an exception to the rule, but you don't disprove it.
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I don't mean me and my group of guys though. I mean people at school who were in general apolitical who could do without. Obviously a personal experience but from what I've seen and considering it took place on a college campus in a liberal state leads me too believe that although it definitely isn't exclusively because of politics it played a bigger role than some on this thread think it did. I think it was Jason Whitlock who talked about how sports fans and sports culture traditionally leans towards conservative idea which which explains outrage towards what people consider "pushing an agenda".
 
Fairfield_1st said:
I'm apparently listening to a different broadcast than a few on here, so it must be me. I thought he sounded like a genius. Couldn't decide who his MVP was and the lady with them liked Mookie because of his athletic at-bats. Just stupid. I just found the whole thing to be dreadful and uninformative.
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What exactly is an 'athletic at-bat'?
 
Someone earlier mentioned appeasing the 35-50 demographic, I agree wholeheartedly. ESPN does not have a monopoly on protest politics coverage, all their competitors covered in a similar fashion and continue to thrive. So politics is a non-factor relative to the quality of its productions. ESPN lacks the on-air talent and wit that they possessed as recent as the early 2000's. Also competition is stiff. There are so many alternatives to consume sports information and entertainment. It really seems as though ESPN is losing their way within the sports entertainment arena.
 
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