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Message: [QUOTE="Mr. French, post: 3555574, member: 2292"] To be clear, in the Pippen / Wade discussion, I wasn't KNOCKING Wade's overall game, he just wasn't the passer and defender that Pip was. He may have been good at those things, but Pippen was better. And Wade was a better scorer. No biggie, they're both great, I just think saying "Pippen didn't have what it takes to lead a team on his own to a chip," which [USER=1522]@superjohn[/USER] said, when Wade did it (sort of) once, is unfair. That's all. I also said "I see your point." I'd probably rank those guys very similarly in the NBA pantheon. The "criminally underrated" part is in the general fan's talking points, because everyone says exactly that: "He had Jordan, he wouldn't be anywhere as good without him!" I disagree with that, he was a stud. cc: [USER=1522]@superjohn[/USER] [USER=168]@tzznandrew[/USER] [USER=1001]@Lefty2one[/USER] [/QUOTE]