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Message: [QUOTE="tzznandrew, post: 3554080, member: 168"] That team won 61 games. They were good, and were expected to go to the Finals. There are 50 players who have 20K points . Here's the list of players in that list who aren't in the Hall of Fame (or who aren't [I]definitely [/I]going to make it): Tom Chambers. That's it. I think there's a decent chance Jamison makes it, even if I don't think he deserves it. I take Bosh over both Rodman and Horace Grant easily. [I]Especially [/I]Grant, but Rodman gives you very good rebounding and defense and no offense. You get way more offense from Bosh and also very good defense. Peak Bosh is getting you 22 and 10 with strong defense. Wade and Pippen is a toss up. Wade was the alpha on a title team, a great scorer, and at his peak an All-NBA Defensive player (3x). Pippen is obviously the greatest perimeter defender ever. By Win Shares and VORP, they're roughly equal. By Box P/M Wade is +5 and Pippen +4. By PER Wade by a lot. Those Heat teams were loaded at the top. Frankly, the depth of those Bulls teams beyond Jordan and Pippen was pretty bleak, particularly in that second three peat. [/QUOTE]