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Message: [QUOTE="tzznandrew, post: 3550465, member: 168"] They also act like the quality of the league was all 1997 for Jordan and all 2019 for LeBron. The league is much better now than it was in 1997 for a variety of reasons (expansion diluting the pool, a series of potential stars getting money and not sticking with their game, etc.), but that same crappy league was still the same crappy league in 2007. I mean, people talk about LeBron dragging a terrible Cavs team to the Finals in 2007, but they went through: 41-41 Wizards 41-41 Nets 53-29 Pistons That Cavs team was a 2-seed, too, not a 5 or seed or anything. They were, thus, one of the favorites to come out of the East (though everyone assumed it would be the declining Pistons). And, just on record (and their record would be worse if they were in the West), they'd have been the 6-seed out West playing the Spurs team that swept them. That's literally what would have happened to them, just in the first round rather than the Finals. [/QUOTE]