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Message: [QUOTE="visitingcock, post: 3698866, member: 6872"] To answer your first question: No. But Maryland, Baylor and UCONN whom SCar beat were considered NC Candidates. The first was a road when when the frosh were true babies in the season's second game. The second was in a travel- tournament setting early in the season. (Of course, that same setting resulted in a loss to Top 25 Indiana.) The third was in front of a massive and rabid home crowd so it doesn't really speak to a tournament-type experience. However, that home factor would have been in play during the regionals in Greenville, SC - where they had just won the SEC tournament Scar also had two excellent seniors who, unlike Oregon, had actual championship game experience. Do I discount your arguments? No. They are strong. I'm just discussing - not "jousting." As to this year, I do worry about the loss of those two senior leaders. [/QUOTE]