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DefenseBB said:
I have to hand it to @jdote33 as I didn't know who Katie Dinnebier was but after looking at her stats, they are freakin awesome and she deserves attention. Her efficiency is in the top 5 and her win shares are in the top 8. Pretty impressive for a 5'8" not rated player coming out of HS.
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I've been hyping her all year, have you been ignoring me?
 
For the FOY, I have been tracking the players since late December and below are the top 8 players with efficiency, WinShares and a few other key stats including their HG ranking. The stats are pretty clear that both Strong and Blakes are the top 2 freshman. Enjoy
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WBBTakeover said:
The bolded part is flawed thinking, IMO. Niele Ivey isn't my choice for COY anymore (Wes is), but she did have a solid case until last week. In the preseason, there were legit concerns about Notre Dame's ability to (1) stay healthy, (2) navigate the ACC without a true big (people forget that Kylee Watson did not play a minute for them this season due to an ACL suffered during the 2024 ACC Tourney), and (3) integrate Olivia Miles back into the fold after she missed all of 2023-24 with an ACL injury suffered in February 2023. She was able to address these concerns and produce a successful season through her coaching (managing rotations, minutes, and expectations). No, it's not what it could have been and maybe not what it should have been. However, they were a double overtime loss from being the 1 seed (and her likely winning the award).

And we're not going to pretend that NC State is somehow bereft of talent. Let's not do that, please. Wes is a good coach that has exceptional talent. None of the teams that I cheer for in the conference have a Saniya Rivers/Aziaha James/Zoe Brooks trio on the perimeter.


No, not a chance. They (UNC) were picked to finish 6th in the conference and finished 5th. They are who we thought they'd be.

The two coaches who should warrant consideration (not necessarily win the award) along with Wes would be the coaches who led teams that had the highest differential from preseason prediction to actual production. Those coaches would be Charmin Smith (from preseason 14 to 7th place) and Megan Duffy (from preseason 12 to 8th place). Charmin's team was essentially an afterthought by ACC voters despite being senior/grad-laden (and their success in postseason last year) while Megan took "Kenny Brooks' leftovers" and turned Carleigh Wenzel (from 3 ppg in ACC play in 2024 to 16 ppg in ACC play in 2025) and Carys Baker (from 2 ppg in ACC play in 2024 to 15 ppg on 51/49/81 shooting splits in ACC play in 2025) into ACC stars.
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All very fair points. I didn’t mean to make it seem like Wes had zero talent to work with, clearly not the case.
 
DefenseBB said:
Ok, so you take umbrage with my choice of Ivey for ACC COY, got it. I still think she did a great job and am still thinking she wins it. I may be wrong but I will take solace that this has highly irritated you.
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I’m glad I could provide such solace :)
 


SEC awards are out. I think Brooks got robbed for coach of the year.
 
SEC just announce their awards: I was wrong thinking first year coach Brooks would win COY, instead it was 1st year Texas team but old SEC coach Vic....
Booker/Schaefer/Blakes

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9 Member 1st team?
 


Here are the big 10 awards:

Freshman of the year is the most interesting. Olson and Cambridge are co-freshman of the year in the coaches vote. But Cambridge wins the media version of the award.
 
Stagnant said:


SEC awards are out. I think Brooks got robbed for coach of the year.
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He didn't get robbed. It was never going to go to him (which was the right call). Despite stacking his roster with his VT transfers, he wasn't able to guide the team to a victory over a team ranked above them (struck out against South Carolina, Texas, and LSU). He had the resources--just didn't get the job done.

Khamil Pierre, despite being Top 5 in ppg and rpg for in-conference games--is somehow not worthy of All-SEC. If anyone got robbed, it was her.

Also, three LSU players on the first team--yet no SEC championship. Hmm...
 
How Khamil Pierre was left off All-SEC is crazy to me:
20.8ppg, 9.6 rebounds, 3.0 steals and 50.7% FG. She 100% should be at least 2nd team over Fulwiley, Pao Pao, Jordan, Verhulst and Scott. Honestly she should be on 1st team though. I thought she'd be a lock.
 
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bballnut90 said:
How Khamil Pierre was left off All-SEC is crazy to me:
20.8ppg, 9.6 rebounds, 3.0 steals and 50.7% FG. She 100% should be at least 2nd team over Fulwiley, Pao Pao, Jordan, Verhulst and Scott.
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Twitter it so angry that Khamil was left off.
 
Stagnant said:


SEC awards are out. I think Brooks got robbed for coach of the year.
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I thought Vic deserved it, they went 15-1 and finishing the year #1 in the country despite losing a starter in the middle of conference play (Aaliyah Moore) and another player who likely would've started if healthy (Laila Phelia).
 
Geew1992 said:
Twitter it so angry that Khamil was left off.
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They should be. She's 4th in the conference in scoring, 3rd in rebounds, 2nd in steals and shoots over 50% from the floor for a team that's #8 out of 18 and has wins over Alabama/Tennessee. I'm not sure I've ever seen a player with a better season who hasn't made an All Conference team.

FanInNC said:
9 member 1st team and 8 member second team?

8 member all freshman team.

6 player all defensive team.

Weird structure.
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With 18 teams, just do a clean 10 person 1st team, 10 person 2nd team, maybe a 5 person HM. There's enough talent in these massive conferences for more credit to go around. Texas getting just 1 player recognized on 1st/2nd team despite winning the conference and being #1 in the country doesn't seem right. Players like Rori Harmon and Taylor Jones deserve recognition.
 
FanInNC said:
I know this drum has been beaten on this thread already...but just to reiterate ND was preseason 5th in one poll and 6th in the other. They were preseason 1st in the conference with 70 of 78 possible 1st place votes. ND had 2 players on the "New Comer Watchlist" out of 5. They had the preseason player of the year in the conference. Preseason defensive player of the year in the conference. And they featured 3 players on the preseason All Conference team (3 of the top 6 vote getters in fact Citron, Hidalgo and Miles).

In addition to all of this they also returned the highest vote receiving 2nd team All Conference performer from last year (Westbeld) AND brought in a first team All Conference player from Pitt (King).

Their entire starting line up is filled with former All Conference players. That's insane! All 5 spots! I'm not sure why Ivey should win COY considering the talent she has on her team and the fact she didn't outright win the conference this year. The only argument I can see is if you are saying she recruited that team and amassed that talent and the award isn't about coaching during the season but rather roster construction and team building as well as coaching. Then I could see it, but I'd think it would also always go to the league's best team (which...still wasn't the Irish).

I think you could make an argument for Charmin Smith of Cal. The Bears were projected 14th in the league and finished 12-6 in 7th place. She very much outperformed expectations and teetered around the back end of the top 25 most of the season when I don't think anyone really had them as a tournament team going into the year. I think Courtney Banghart has an argument that could be made, although I certainly won't be making it! I'll be disappointed if Wes Moore doesn't get it though. State was preseason 2nd in the conference and 9th overall and that was with the assumption Caitlyn Weimar would be healthy and starting all season long. She played 0 minutes. If the projections would have known that, I'd imagine State would have been more like in the 4-5 range in the conference projections and 20ish overall.

I just don't think you can make the argument that Ivey maximized her talent with the way they faltered at the end.
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I think even on “but they recruited the talent!”, you have to compare it to program baseline.

Ie, if whoever follows Geno wins the BE by one game with the tenth best roster in America, they’re really not getting bonus points for roster building. The Notre Dame team has more talent on paper than everyone else in the conference, but it’s not a “WOW! How did she ever build that roster?!” assemblage for Notre Dame.
 
FanInNC said:
I agree with others that Wes should be COY. I know Wesbeld missed the first half of the season, but ND is loaded with future pros and got a stud transfer double double machine in King.
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I like Wes this season, and Niele seems to have faltered a bit down the stretch. But picking up King in the portal was a stroke of genius. I give her a ton of credit for seeing what King had to offer before other coaches did and going all out after her.
 
Bone Dog said:
I like Wes this season, and Niele seems to have faltered a bit down the stretch. But picking up King in the portal was a stroke of genius. I give her a ton of credit for seeing what King had to offer before other coaches did and going all out after her.
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She didn't miss many shots against NC State. A definite golden nugget from the transfer portal.
 
Bone Dog said:
I like Wes this season, and Niele seems to have faltered a bit down the stretch. But picking up King in the portal was a stroke of genius. I give her a ton of credit for seeing what King had to offer before other coaches did and going all out after her.
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Im not sure what her recruitment looked like and who all was after her. She was first team all conference last year in the ACC so it's not like she was some diamond in the rough. The whole conference had a very good idea of who she was and what she could do. She was an excellent add for coach Ivey.
 
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ACC Women’s Basketball Announces 2024-25 Award Winners

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Here's the ACC awards. While most of them are straightforward/justifiable, I do not agree with the Most Improved recipient (I respect it to an extent) and have MAJOR questions about the placement and inclusion of several first and second team All-ACC honorees. This lends credence to the belief that the ACC voters largely do not pay attention to what's happening outside of the state of North Carolina.

Someone explain to me, like I'm five, how a team finishes 8th in the conference but has ZERO All-ACC players (or any awardees of any kind). And, since the team is supposedly bereft of ACC talent, how does the coach of said "talent-deficient" team not finish Top 3 in COY voting?????

This is amateur hour-level stuff right here. I thought the SEC voters were insane for leaving off Khamil Pierre, but wow.
 
2024-25 All-ACC Women’s Basketball Team
Player of the Year: Hannah Hidalgo, So., G, Notre Dame
Defensive Player of the Year: Hannah Hidalgo, So., G, Notre Dame
Rookie of the Year: Toby Fournier, F, Duke
Coach of the Year: Wes Moore, NC State
Sixth Player of the Year: Dani Carnegie, Fr., G, Georgia Tech
Most Improved Player: Zoe Brooks, So., G, NC State

All-ACC First Team
Hannah Hidalgo, So., G, Notre Dame - 2257
Ta'Niya Latson, Jr., G, Florida State - 2173
Olivia Miles, Jr., G, Notre Dame - 1949
Aziaha James, Sr., G, NC State - 1902
Makayla Timpson, Sr., F, Florida State - 1729
Sonia Citron, Sr., G, Notre Dame - 1398
Kymora Johnson, So., G, Virginia - 1339
Saniya Rivers, Sr., G, NC State - 1316
Alyssa Ustby, Gr., G/F, North Carolina - 1010
Khadija Faye, Gr., C, Pitt - 973
Zoe Brooks, So., G, NC State - 968
Kara Dunn, Jr., G, Georgia Tech - 965
Toby Fournier, Fr., F, Duke - 916
Jayda Curry, Sr., G, Louisville - 881
O'Mariah Gordon, Sr., G, Florida State – 878

All-ACC Second Team
Haley Cavinder, Gr., G, Miami - 834
Ioanna Krimili, Sr., G, California - 711
Ashlon Jackson, Sr., G, Duke - 657
Liatu King, Gr., F, Notre Dame - 649
Maria Gakdeng, Sr., C, North Carolina - 623
Tonie Morgan, Jr., G, Georgia Tech - 611
Reniya Kelly, So., G, North Carolina - 585
Nunu Agara, So., F, Stanford - 550
Tajianna Roberts, Fr., G, Louisville - 456
Nya Robertson, Jr., G, SMU - 427

All-Defensive Team
Hannah Hidalgo, Notre Dame - 484
Makayla Timpson, Florida State - 368
Saniya Rivers, NC State - 226
Jadyn Donovan, Duke - 161
Alyssa Ustby, North Carolina - 123
Sonia Citron, Notre Dame - 109

All-Freshman Team
Toby Fournier, Duke - 520
Tajianna Roberts, Louisville - 410
Dani Carnegie, Georgia Tech - 380
Tilda Trygger, NC State - 164
Lanie Grant, North Carolina - 116
Kate Koval, Notre Dame - 103

ACC Most Improved
Zoe Brooks, NC State - 124
Reniya Kelly, North Carolina - 114
Khadija Faye, Pitt - 96

ACC Sixth Player
Dani Carnegie, Georgia Tech - 372
Oluchi Okananwa, Duke - 324
Tess Heal, Stanford - 52

ACC Coach of the Year
Wes Moore, NC State - 306
Niele Ivey, Notre Dame - 184
Charmin Smith, California - 99
 
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