Emanuel AME church massacre

[ktuck911]

Total shock that something like this has happened in today's times. Prayers go . Out to the families of the fallen as well as everyone else involved.

And lets get this guy off the streets ASAP.

 

[ktuck911]

The lack of responses makes me think my total shock was over exaggerated... We still have a long way to go....

 

[formerlurker]

Total shock is an understatement, didn't see your post until you bumped it.

 

[CL82]

Mmm, the football board and the ticket exchange board aren't really the right places to have this discussion. There is a thread in the Cesspool on it. It is about to go off the rails.

 

[Bonehead]

Total Shock has left my body long ago the way the world is working these days and the things I have experienced in my past.

- Guns don't kill people; people kill people. My gun has killed no one up to this point; it sits in its little carry case and lo and behold, no deaths by it.

 

[APA]

People with guns kill people. People with knives, not so much.

 

[mets1090]

I can't imagine why anyone is in total shock over a shooting "in today's times." There are over 300 million people in this country. 1 or 2 people are going to fly off the rails and make national headlines with a shooting like this every year. It's sad that that's the case, but there's not really much that can be done to prevent 0.000005% of the population from doing things like this.

In any event, this thread doesn't stand a chance of remaining a civil discussion and probably belongs in the Cesspool.

 

[Bonehead]

People with guns kill people. People with knives, not so much.

Oh - there is an acceptable number?

 

[FDNY99]

People with guns kill people. People with knives, not so much.

You can't serious with this statement...I guess these 2 articles about 2 teenagers killed in Brooklyn were a fabrication!
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/brooklyn-teens-fatally-stabbed-block-article-1.2254498

http://nypost.com/2015/06/11/teen-stabbed-to-death-inside-sneaker-store/

 

[FDNY99]

Total shock that something like this has happened in today's times. Prayers go . Out to the families of the fallen as well as everyone else involved.

And lets get this guy off the streets ASAP. View attachment 9815

Guy has been caught...eery thing about this senseless shooting...on June 18, 2007 9 Charleston Firefighters died in a fire at the Sofa Super Store in Highway 17. Some of the members of the Charleston FD who responded to that fatal fire responded to this shooting and rendered aid to the victims.

 

[Bonehead]

People with guns kill people. People with knives, not so much.

Are more people killed by people with knives or people with cars? Curious if you know?

 

[uconnbill]

I just am praying for those who lost family and loved one's last night. May God give them comfort during this horrible ordeal.

 

[uconnric]

Are more people killed by people with knives or people with cars? Curious if you know?

Don't be stupid, you can't outlaw cars. Guns need much tougher restrictions, way too available.

 

[uconnbill]

Don't be stupid, you can't outlaw cars. Guns need much tougher restrictions, way too available.

We need to deal with the mental health illness issue period.

 

[sdhusky]

Don't be stupid, you can't outlaw cars. Guns need much tougher restrictions, way too available.

When I was in London, there was a stabbing/murder of a young man over a random argument. This story took over the news cycle. There was shock. Disbelief. Sermons that society was going down the toilet. etc.

The only thing I found shocking was that a murder would be shocking. In London, there were 2 teenage murders by shooting in all of 2014.

 

[Bonehead]

Don't be stupid, you can't outlaw cars. Guns need much tougher restrictions, way too available.

Name calling - you lose - Boneyard rule 6.573.2

I never suggested outlawing cars...I was commenting on the gentleman's claim the peoples with knives, not so much. I figured he had statistics.

I don't know anyone outside of the Marine Corps that has ever been shot but three weeks ago a 16 year old pimple faced kid, with 2 others kids in the car, which is illegal in the State of Ct, crossed the center line and killed 1 and injured 2, one of them critical. All fine members of the Bristol Elks. Cars don't kill - people do. He was in control of the car the same way someone is in control of a gun - but to each their own.

I know more people that have been affected by Motor vehicles than guns, knives, Chinese stars and other weapons combined. I am not saying outlaw cars, I am advocating removing people from using cars, the same way I would with guns.

 

[Bonehead]

When I was in London, there was a stabbing/murder of a young man over a random argument. This story took over the news cycle. There was shock. Disbelief. Sermons that society was going down the toilet. etc.

The only thing I found shocking was that a murder would be shocking. In London, there were 2 teenage murders by shooting in all of 2014.

I thought guns were illegal in London?

 

[sdhusky]

I thought guns were illegal in London?

They are. In 2012, there were zero teens murdered by guns in London. At the same time in Chicago, a city about 1/3 the size, there were over 500.

BTW, that is more than the total number of Marines killed in 13 years of fighting in Afghanistan.

 

[Bonehead]

They are. In 2012, there were zero teens murdered by guns in London. At the same time in Chicago, a city about 1/3 the size, there were over 500.

BTW, that is more than the total number of Marines killed in 13 years of fighting in Afghanistan.

ummm...In London, there were 2 teenage murders by shooting in all of 2014 - how does that happen if guns are illegal? My point exactly, ban it and that doesn't mean it goes away...

http://www.juancole.com/2014/05/murders-firearm-england.html - 30 total murders by gun in England 2014 - a country where firearms are ILLEGAL.

I know, no need to answer, but making something illegal never ends it ...Heroin, guns, pot. I say start by banning guns in Baltimore and Chicago and let me know how that works out...Im sure ALL the legal guns owners will turn their weapons over and the illegal owners of guns will not.

 

[J187Money]

Guns are banned in Chicago.

 

[Bonehead]

Guns are banned in Chicago.

How is that working?

 

[APA]

Name calling - you lose - Boneyard rule 6.573.2

I never suggested outlawing cars...I was commenting on the gentleman's claim the peoples with knives, not so much. I figured he had statistics.

I don't know anyone outside of the Marine Corps that has ever been shot but three weeks ago a 16 year old pimple faced kid, with 2 others kids in the car, which is illegal in the State of Ct, crossed the center line and killed 1 and injured 2, one of them critical. All fine members of the Bristol Elks. Cars don't kill - people do. He was in control of the car the same way someone is in control of a gun - but to each their own.

I know more people that have been affected by Motor vehicles than guns, knives, Chinese stars and other weapons combined. I am not saying outlaw cars, I am advocating removing people from using cars, the same way I would with guns.

Just doing a quick search, here are some numbers: From 2000-2008, Gun deaths in the US were 86,000. Knife deaths were 16,500. In 2010, gun deaths were 8,775 and knife deaths were 1,704. A consistent ratio of 5-1. So, yeah, knife deaths are much less than gun deaths. As we all knew anyway.

 

[J187Money]

How is that working?

It isn't.

 

[MilliniumPrince]

ummm...In London, there were 2 teenage murders by shooting in all of 2014 - how does that happen if guns are illegal? My point exactly, ban it and that doesn't mean it goes away...

http://www.juancole.com/2014/05/murders-firearm-england.html - 30 total murders by gun in England 2014 - a country where firearms are ILLEGAL.

I know, no need to answer, but making something illegal never ends it ...Heroin, guns, pot. I say start by banning guns in Baltimore and Chicago and let me know how that works out...Im sure ALL the legal guns owners will turn their weapons over and the illegal owners of guns will not.

2 guns murders of teenagers in a city with the size and density of London, and take that as an indication the gun ban isn't working?? So in order for a ban/restriction to work it has to produce no murders. Damn that is a tough standard.

 

[J187Money]

2 guns murders of teenagers in a city with the size and density of London, and take that as an indication the gun ban isn't working?? So in order for a ban/restriction to work it has to produce no murders. Damn that is a tough standard.

It works because guns were ways banned there. It can't work in a place where there are already tons of guns.