Edsall v. Ethics Board

[Jimdish255]

Couldn't Corey just "Volunteer" as a coach? Maybe the school could give Randy a $100,000 raise for doing such a good job if Corey "volunteers".

He deserves to be paid. This is an idiotic self-defeating exercise.

 

[SirHypeAlot]

I'm on the "Office of State Ethics" website now. I will be emailing everyone on the committee.
They need to get a life. We need to vote these people out. They're wasting tax-payer money on a witch hunt!
Corey is one of the least-paid coaches in D1 football.

I salute you sir! i'm going to join in tomorrow

 

[Chief00]

I think if you ask Big Red @temery as nicely as possible he’d gladly shut down the football board. Probably a big money loser.

LOL - referring to the Ethics Board

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

This whole story is beyond ridiculous and every single one of those board members should apologize for the amount of state funds they're wasting on this circus they're leading. This is dropping a nuclear bomb on an ant farm. This never should've got beyond a letter to Randy telling him he shouldn't have done that and told Susan and UConn to be more careful in hiring, or some other form of fudged nonsense language.

 

[CL82]

This whole story is beyond ridiculous and every single one of those board members should apologize for the amount of state funds they're wasting on this circus they're leading. This is dropping a nuclear bomb on an ant farm. This never should've got beyond a letter to Randy telling him he shouldn't have done that and told Susan and UConn to be more careful in hiring, or some other form of fudged nonsense language.

Or, oh I don't know, not change the advisory opinion they gave just because it involved the football coach instead of a teacher?

 

[CL82]

Hasn’t that been their argument all along?

That's been their best argument. I don't know if it has been their exclusive argument. The quotes from Herbst on recruiting professors seems to inviting broader policy debate. It's best to stay out of the weeds.

 

[huskymedic]

Herbst Testifies Ethics Board Ruling Involving UConn Coach Randy Edsall's Son Will Hurt Recruitment Of Professors

 

[CL82]

A lawyer for the state ethics board acknowledged that a law passed during the last legislative session aimed at allowing Corey Edsall to keep his job makes it likely that he will stay in his role at UConn. Lawyers said the question of whether ethics laws were violated at the time of the hiring is still at issue.

CL82 comment: What stupid waste of time and money. Corey stays regardless.

Edsall's attorney, Louis George synopsis: “There is no evidence that Randy or Corey Edsall did anything wrong in this case ...Randy was open and honest from the beginning about hiring his son and there was nothing underhanded.”

There are two issues: (1) whether Randy Edsall became a state employee on Dec. 28, 2016, when he signed a letter of agreement to coach at UConn, or on Jan. 3; and (2) whether he is able to supervise his son.

George argued that the board overstepped its bounds when it ruled that a plan UConn put in place in which Athletic Director David Benedict would supervise Corey Edsall and conduct his job review couldn’t work.

“The statute specifically states that a family member can’t take action that financially benefits either person. Nowhere in the statute or any other decision does it state that a family member can’t supervise another family member.”

Housen argued that the school’s plan, while looks good on paper, doesn’t work in the real world of Division I college athletics.

CL82 comment: Looks good on paper = complies with statute.

Shortell also questioned how it would be possible that Randy Edsall would have no say in his son’s job performance.

CL82 comment: As noted above the statute doesn't require "no say." This argument is overreach.

“This all looks good on paper but in the real world there’s going to be concerns raised by the head coach or the offensive coordinator [supervised by Edsall] in regards to the tight ends,” Shortell said.

CL82 comment: To which the AD would have the final say. Basically, Ethics appears to be arguing to apply a special rule for football coaches. That's the legislature's mandate not the Ethic Board's.

 

[UConnNick]

A lawyer for the state ethics board acknowledged that a law passed during the last legislative session aimed at allowing Corey Edsall to keep his job makes it likely that he will stay in his role at UConn. Lawyers said the question of whether ethics laws were violated at the time of the hiring is still at issue.

CL82 comment: What stupid waste of time and money. Corey stays regardless.

Edsall's attorney, Louis George synopsis: “There is no evidence that Randy or Corey Edsall did anything wrong in this case ...Randy was open and honest from the beginning about hiring his son and there was nothing underhanded.”

There are two issues: (1) whether Randy Edsall became a state employee on Dec. 28, 2016, when he signed a letter of agreement to coach at UConn, or on Jan. 3; and (2) whether he is able to supervise his son.

George argued that the board overstepped its bounds when it ruled that a plan UConn put in place in which Athletic Director David Benedict would supervise Corey Edsall and conduct his job review couldn’t work.

“The statute specifically states that a family member can’t take action that financially benefits either person. Nowhere in the statute or any other decision does it state that a family member can’t supervise another family member.”

Housen argued that the school’s plan, while looks good on paper, doesn’t work in the real world of Division I college athletics.

CL82 comment: Looks good on paper = complies with statute.

Shortell also questioned how it would be possible that Randy Edsall would have no say in his son’s job performance.

CL82 comment: As noted above the statute doesn't require "no say." This argument is overreach.

“This all looks good on paper but in the real world there’s going to be concerns raised by the head coach or the offensive coordinator [supervised by Edsall] in regards to the tight ends,” Shortell said.

CL82 comment: To which the AD would have the final say. Basically, Ethics appears to be arguing to apply a special rule for football coaches. That's the legislature's mandate not the Ethic Board's.

If a lawyer for the Ethics Board says Corey gets to keep his job because of the legislation passed during the last session, then why are we engaged in this continuing legal/mental masturbation? Why can't somebody step up, pound a gavel and exclaim "Case closed!"(?)

 

[uconnbill]

If a lawyer for the Ethics Board says Corey gets to keep his job because of the legislation passed during the last session, then why are we engaged in this continuing legal/mental masturbation? Why can't somebody step up, pound a gavel and exclaim "Case closed!"(?)

Because that makes too much sense

 

[Ewekon]

I just like the judge's name is Shortall. That may be a big or may be a small part of the decision.

 

[Exit 4]

A lawyer for the state ethics board acknowledged that a law passed during the last legislative session aimed at allowing Corey Edsall to keep his job makes it likely that he will stay in his role at UConn. Lawyers said the question of whether ethics laws were violated at the time of the hiring is still at issue.

CL82 comment: What stupid waste of time and money. Corey stays regardless.

Edsall's attorney, Louis George synopsis: “There is no evidence that Randy or Corey Edsall did anything wrong in this case ...Randy was open and honest from the beginning about hiring his son and there was nothing underhanded.”

There are two issues: (1) whether Randy Edsall became a state employee on Dec. 28, 2016, when he signed a letter of agreement to coach at UConn, or on Jan. 3; and (2) whether he is able to supervise his son.

George argued that the board overstepped its bounds when it ruled that a plan UConn put in place in which Athletic Director David Benedict would supervise Corey Edsall and conduct his job review couldn’t work.

“The statute specifically states that a family member can’t take action that financially benefits either person. Nowhere in the statute or any other decision does it state that a family member can’t supervise another family member.”

Housen argued that the school’s plan, while looks good on paper, doesn’t work in the real world of Division I college athletics.

CL82 comment: Looks good on paper = complies with statute.

Shortell also questioned how it would be possible that Randy Edsall would have no say in his son’s job performance.

CL82 comment: As noted above the statute doesn't require "no say." This argument is overreach.

“This all looks good on paper but in the real world there’s going to be concerns raised by the head coach or the offensive coordinator [supervised by Edsall] in regards to the tight ends,” Shortell said.

CL82 comment: To which the AD would have the final say. Basically, Ethics appears to be arguing to apply a special rule for football coaches. That's the legislature's mandate not the Ethic Board's.

Is this board compensated for hours served? If so that explains why this continues.

 

[huskymedic]

If a lawyer for the Ethics Board says Corey gets to keep his job because of the legislation passed during the last session, then why are we engaged in this continuing legal/mental masturbation? Why can't somebody step up, pound a gavel and exclaim "Case closed!"(?)

Is this board compensated for hours served? If so that explains why this continues.

Not hourly but daily. These proceedings are a result of the lawsuit that Edsall and UConn filed against the Office of State Ethics/Citizen's Ethic Advisory Board to overturn their initial ruling. I guess Edsall/UConn can drop their lawsuit as a result of the legislative change and it would go away but the initial ruling that State Ethic Laws were violated would still stand.

 

[RSTuthill]

If a lawyer for the Ethics Board says Corey gets to keep his job because of the legislation passed during the last session, then why are we engaged in this continuing legal/mental masturbation? Why can't somebody step up, pound a gavel and exclaim "Case closed!"(?)

I believe the phrase is "the case is now moot".

 

[Exit 4]

Not hourly but daily. These proceedings are a result of the lawsuit that Edsall and UConn filed against the Office of State Ethics/Citizen's Ethic Advisory Board to overturn their initial ruling. I guess Edsall/UConn can drop their lawsuit as a result of the legislative change and it would go away but the initial ruling that State Ethic Laws were violated would still stand.

And so drop the suit, release Corey and then rehire Corey now that the legislation has passed?

Someone should be investigating why there is no FBS football on tonight. That is worthy of a serious ethics inquiry! WTF And I don't about the NFL conflict because thursdays conflict the rest of fall.

 

[Drew]

we're 33 point dogs this weekend and our coach is missing practice to testify in court that his son who makes $95k a year coaching tight ends and running social media for the state's football team should keep his job he's already had for a year and a half.

Pure insanity.

 

[RSTuthill]

we're 33 point dogs this weekend and our coach is missing practice to testify in court that his son who makes $95k a year coaching tight ends and running social media for the state's football team should keep his job he's already had for a year and a half.

Pure insanity.

Travel day today isn't it?

 

[whaler11]

we're 33 point dogs this weekend and our coach is missing practice to testify in court that his son who makes $95k a year coaching tight ends and running social media for the state's football team should keep his job he's already had for a year and a half.

Pure insanity.

And people get mad at me when the I point out the President is going to retire to teach Poly Sci....

 

[RSTuthill]

And people get mad at me when the I point out the President is going to retire to teach Poly Sci....

Is she taking formal retirement? That does not seem right if she is working for the same institution.

 

[LBird33]

I have no proof but believe her contract as Pres was not renewed by the board. So she will finish out her current contract and the board as part of goodwill and saving face set up the teaching opportunity. Think about it, she leaves quietly. No issues or lawsuits as we have in other UConn venues. Give her a year and she’s on to some new academic leadership role at another institution.

 

[Exit 4]

Watch for Malloy come this winter. He wants this job and will get it if Lamont wins.

 

[CL82]

Watch for Malloy come this winter. He wants this job and will get it if Lamont wins.

 

[RSTuthill]

Malloy would be a lot better than quite a few other options.

 

[uconnbill]

Malloy would be a lot better than quite a few other options.

I'd rather him there then as our governor. No way to Lamont otherwise I am moving south as I watch Connecticut burn.

Still the biggest charade I've seen

 

[RSTuthill]

I'd rather him there then as our governor. No way to Lamont otherwise I am moving south as I watch Connecticut burn.

Still the biggest charade I've seen

He is the father of UConn's HE membership. We hockey fans will be forever grateful. Beyond that there are other reasons but a discussion of those would be political and not appropriate here.