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With transfer season pretty much closed, we should know what pieces these teams have. Whether they play out the way we think is another matter. Rank your teams
Here's mine:
Regular season, non BET finish


1. Xavier
2. Uconn
3.Creighton
4 Marquette
5 St.Johns
6. Nova
7. Georgetown
8. PC
9. Seton Hall
10. DePaul
11. Butler

The last 6 will be totally up in the air. I can see Seton Hall finishing behind Butler and can also see PC finishing toward the bottom.
I can see us winning the tourney though.
 
Jaydumo20 said:
With transfer season pretty much closed, we should know what pieces these teams have. Whether they play out the way we think is another matter. Rank your teams
Here's mine:
Regular season, non BET finish


1. Xavier
2. Uconn
3.Creighton
4 Marquette
5 St.Johns
6. Nova
7. Georgetown
8. PC
9. Seton Hall
10. DePaul
11. Butler

The last 6 will be totally up in the air. I can see Seton Hall finishing behind Butler and can also see PC finishing toward the bottom.
I can see us winning the tourney though.
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GTown over PC is quite the take
 
FfldCntyFan said:
If this does happen our friends to the east will have a complete meltdown.
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If we don't finish 1st, this will be the storyline I'm rooting for most.
 
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Seems like Xavier isn't getting as much pre season shine as your #'s 2 through 6. What are you seeing that others might be overlooking? If Georgetown is top 7, hope Akok is part of the reason and same for Alleyne for St Johns.
 
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Xavier at 1 is something, for sure. I don't think their transfer PGs are very good. Claude and Craft should improve, but I don't see All-Conference. Hunter and Freemantle is a good frontcourt, but not dominating (except against us probably), especially considering Freemantle's availability struggles. I don't expect much from their freshmen in year 1 other than rotation pieces.
 
auror said:
Xavier at 1 is something, for sure. I don't think their transfer PGs are very good. Claude and Craft should improve, but I don't see All-Conference. Hunter and Freemantle is a good frontcourt, but not dominating (except against us probably), especially considering Freemantle's availability struggles. I don't expect much from their freshmen in year 1 other than rotation pieces.
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I'm betting on Miller. I think Claude will definitely improve and am seeing a healthy freemantle as an important piece. But you're right, there are a lot of 'ifs' on this team.
 
I've tried to form a guess, and I probably will later tonight. I just can't get over Xavier at #1, didn't even read the rest. That is something
 
Marquette (15-5)
Creighton (15-5)
UConn (14-6)
St Johns (14-6)
Xavier (12-8)
PC (10-10)
Georgetown (10-10)
Villanova (9-11)
Hall (7-13)
DePaul (2-18)
Butler (1-19)

I think top 4 will all be within 1-2 games with the winner “only” getting to 15 conference wins.

The conference will be a blood bath this year. 6 bids min, up to 8 depending on BET results.

I think UConn and St John’s make it the furthest in March Madness FWIW.
 
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superjohn said:
Big East will be the best conference in the country.
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I really hope teams like Georgetown, St John’s and PC can all hold up their end of the bargain in the non-conference this year.

I agree by the end of the season it will be the best, top to bottom. But if some of those teams above drop the ball in OOC opportunities it could hurt NCAA bids & seeding (like last season).
 
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I guess I should provide a rationale:
I foresee Marquette, Uconn, Xavier, Creighton to be top 4.
I see enough question marks with all of these 4 to prohibit suggesting a clear runaway #1 or even #1 and #2 for that matter. So, I'm basically betting on an above avg. coach in Miller, a healthy freemantle a better Claude and Craft and 2 top 100 freshman. On paper, we have the best chances but I put us at #2 simply because we had the best team in the ncaa tourney but struggled in conference. The safest bet would be 1.Uconn 2.Marquette 3.Creighton but I can't remember the last time the 'no brainer' pre-season picks were correct:
especially on here.
 
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McLovin said:
I really hope teams like Georgetown, St John’s and PC can all hold up their end of the bargain in the non-conference this year.

I agree by the end of the season it will be the best, top to bottom. But if some of those teams above drop the ball in OOC opportunities it could hurt NCAA bids & seeding (like last season).
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I think the last season’s (seeding) turned out perfectly. I’ll take a repeat.
 
Jaydumo20 said:
I guess I should provide a rationale:
I foresee Marquette, Uconn, Xavier, Creighton to be top 4.
I see enough question marks with all of these 4 to prohibit suggesting a clear runaway #1 or even #1 and #2 for that matter. So, I'm basically betting on an above avg. coach in Miller, a healthy freemantle a better Claude and Craft and 2 top 100 freshman. On paper, we have the best chances but I put us at #2 simply because we had the best team in the ncaa tourney but struggled in conference.
Also, because no 'rational' pre-season predictions are ever correct, especially on here.
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Xavier is going to be really good, but I'm just not seeing it. I agree there's not a clear favorite right now, but UConn, Marquette, Creighton are all at least one if not two steps above everyone else. All 3 are gonna be top 10 teams preseason, Xavier will be lucky to be receiving votes. Miller is a great coach but they're not a particularly talented team and the rest of the Big East has coaches that are just as good if not better, and much better rosters
 
Jaydumo20 said:
@Husky68
I guess I should provide a rationale:
I foresee Marquette, Uconn, Xavier, Creighton to be top 4.
I see enough question marks with all of these 4 to prohibit suggesting a clear runaway #1 or even #1 and #2 for that matter. So, I'm basically betting on an above avg. coach in Miller, a healthy freemantle a better Claude and Craft and 2 top 100 freshman. On paper, we have the best chances but I put us at #2 simply because we had the best team in the ncaa tourney but struggled in conference.
Also, because no 'rational' pre-season predictions are ever correct, especially on here.
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I figured your rationale for having Xavier #1 would be their transfers. You think Freemantle, Claude, Craft plus 2 top 100 freshmen is better than Clingan, Newton, Karaban plus the #4 freshman class in the nation?
 
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Seton Hall and Depaul splitting games with each other might be the only time either of those two get a win. They are looking atrocious. Sha might be on the hot seat if he finishes in the basement this season, which they will considering their roster is made up of A10 caliber players (if that)
 
NJHusky said:
I think the last season’s (seeding) turned out perfectly. I’ll take a repeat.
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Definitely no complaints on how it turned out, but the league as a whole was disrespected by the committee because of the poor OOC results (outside of UConn).
 
superjohn said:
I figured your rationale for having Xavier #1 would be their transfers. You think Freemantle, Claude, Craft plus 2 top 100 freshmen is better than Clingan, Newton, Karaban plus the #4 freshman class in the nation?
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Mainly im just having fun.
I don't know enough about Duncomb because he didn't play much and didn't see much of the other 2 guys. But basically my prediction is based off of nothing other than "what we expect to happen never happens". I think in retrospect we had a better team, talent wise, than the teams who finished ahead of us last year. My original list had Uconn as#1 Marquette #2 and Xavier #3, based on everything I thought I knew. Since a bet that the final standings will have a few shockers seems pretty well played out every year I bet on Miller and an unproven, talented team. Yes, we are the most talented on paper. I thought we were last year too. (especially after our start, I had us losing only one away game to Creighton).
 
navery12 said:
Xavier is going to be really good, but I'm just not seeing it. I agree there's not a clear favorite right now, but UConn, Marquette, Creighton are all at least one if not two steps above everyone else. All 3 are gonna be top 10 teams preseason, Xavier will be lucky to be receiving votes. Miller is a great coach but they're not a particularly talented team and the rest of the Big East has coaches that are just as good if not better, and much better rosters
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I agree with your assessment 100%. This new big east is just too competitive for me to think it's gonna go how it should. I wanted to predict the least crazy, unpopular #1 team. I honestly do think that we will all be pretty surprised at how it shakes out, whether that will mean Xavier #1 or not.
 
I honestly believe there's a top 7, with Seton Hall, Butler, Georgetown, and DePaul out of if the loop. The top 7 could fall in almost any order. UConn is talented but young, Marquette has most of their pieces back, but who knows if every can replicate what they did last year. Creighton lost two starters, but should have a trash that fits as well or better. Providence has more talent than last year, but a new coach. St. John's and X will be interesting, and Nova has a lot riding on an untested point guard.

Georgetown improved the coaching position, but I honestly believe their roster has less talent than this year's team.
 
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McLovin said:
Marquette (15-5)
Creighton (15-5)
UConn (14-6)
St Johns (14-6)
Xavier (12-8)
PC (10-10)
Georgetown (10-10)
Villanova (9-11)
Hall (7-13)
DePaul (2-18)
Butler (1-19)

I think top 4 will all be within 1-2 games with the winner “only” getting to 15 conference wins.

The conference will be a blood bath this year. 6 bids min, up to 8 depending on BET results.

I think UConn and St John’s make it the furthest in March Madness FWIW.
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I think this is a solid prediction for most teams. I think villanova will be much better and likely top 3 and Georgetown will again suck.
 
Any one of the top 6 teams could win the title. To be honest I see UConn closer to 5 than 1. Lost too much experience and leadership.The Huskies will be stronger at the end of the season (baring significant injuries) but they will lose more games than this past season. I still see a sweet 16 season.
 
gtcam said:
Any one of the top 6 teams could win the title. To be honest I see UConn closer to 5 than 1. Lost too much experience and leadership.The Huskies will be stronger at the end of the season (baring significant injuries) but they will lose more games than this past season. I still see a sweet 16 season.
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I think uconn all things being equal will win more toss up games in conference this year. Residual confidence from last year and hurley maintaining his cool will help with officiating. Hurley matured last year and learned to deal with the poor calls better late in the year
 
Where we finish will be better than how we start. We do have a tougher OOC and we have to at least split those games. Or I would take losing to all the good OOC games but winning in Kansas. We all know what has to happen for us to be a threat in conference both regular season and tourney. Castle has to play at FOY level. Tristan has to get his dribble penetration going earlier and be more consistent at finishing. I worry the least about Karaban and Spencer I feel confident Spencer will hit his three’s if they are good looks. And the final piece is the big man. Does he keep up the same production with more minutes. Is he a better scorer around the basket, because although I love him he did miss a lot of bunnies last year. That can’t happen next year. I am considering his rim protection as a given. No matter what we can count on that. And then what happens with Samson and the stretch 4 or 5 when AK is on the bench. Then we need another freshman to have a positive impact. Transfers are easier to predict reference output than how a freshman will acclimate to a higher level.
 
gtcam said:
Any one of the top 6 teams could win the title. To be honest I see UConn closer to 5 than 1. Lost too much experience and leadership.The Huskies will be stronger at the end of the season (baring significant injuries) but they will lose more games than this past season. I still see a sweet 16 season.
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Well how many people picked Marquette and they dominated for most of the regular season. Hopefully our conference schedule won’t be as brutal early like it was last year. So you are probably right. There is a team that no one is expecting that will step up a challenge for the BE reg season title. I just hope it’s not St Johns because the memory of the always kicking our a** during the first few BE seasons still bothers me.
 
Jaydumo20 said:
With transfer season pretty much closed, we should know what pieces these teams have. Whether they play out the way we think is another matter. Rank your teams
Here's mine:
Regular season, non BET finish


1. Xavier
2. Uconn
3.Creighton
4 Marquette
5 St.Johns
6. Nova
7. Georgetown
8. PC
9. Seton Hall
10. DePaul
11. Butler

The last 6 will be totally up in the air. I can see Seton Hall finishing behind Butler and can also see PC finishing toward the bottom.
I can see us winning the tourney though.
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X at #1 is great click bait! Nova with Moore and PC with Hopkins might have the 2 best players in the league next year. If they play at that level it's hard to see those teams not out-performing these predictions. The same could be said for Marquette if Cam Jones takes another leap like he did last year. And then there is another wild card in Pitino with potentially the conference's best inside/outside combo in Soriano & Dingle.
 
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