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Dwayne Wade Praises Paige

Note to self: It's an Olympic Sport. Learn to love it!
(Is the sport made for Sarah Strong)
In 1900 the Brits succeeded in getting live pigeon shooting into the games. First and last time. Having snuck into the Olympic Games does not command love. For those of you who do that's perfectly fine. The ball and the hoop are the only honest resemblance to basketball play. That's my position and I'm sticking to it.
 
Note to self: It's an Olympic Sport. Learn to love it!
(Is the sport made for Sarah Strong)
The Unrivaled 3x3 is different from the Olympic 3x3. The Olympic game is a half court game, while Unrivaled plays on a smaller version of a full court. Also, the Olympic game has 4 players and a coach that can't talk to them during the game, while Unrivaled has 6 players, but I can't remember if the coach is able to talk to their team during the game.
 
It’s difficult for me to think that this Unrivaled thing isn’t going to be a huge stumbling block in the current CBA negotiations. It is inevitable that players, star players, will end up suffering season ending injuries during the course of the Unrivaled season! If you are asking me, as a WNBA owner to pony up million dollar salaries, there is no way I’m allowing my million dollar investment to take that risk. I’m already risking big time losses as there is no history of the W succeeding financially and now I’ve got to fade the likelihood that one or more of my (now high priced) players won’t be able to play for my team? I don’t think so.

I don’t know what is going to happen but I am sure that’s going to be a problem. I suppose if the player signed a waiver that she would go unpaid from the W in the event of an injury that might suffice but I as an owner would still take it in the shorts as my star player, the one our fans are coming to see, is not available! Maybe Dwayne Wade could give us his thoughts on that? I will admit though, I was dumbfounded at the apparent success of Unrivaled. I would never have thought that was a winning project. Actually, I’m withholding my belief in it’s long term viability til they can show the same success in consecutive years. Anyhoo, them’s my thoughts!
 
Dwyane Wade is not alone in the redefining of "GOAT." I'm seeing a trend of lots of athletes using GOAT figuratively, as in "Patrick Mahomes is the GOAT of this era of NFL quarterbacks." (I heard that one last week on Good Morning Football, I believe.) Maybe people are forgetting what the acronym actually stands for. Well, I suppose if "literally" can come to mean figuratively, which is pretty much its opposite, "GOAT" can come to mean greatest of right now, rather than all-time.

Not gonna lie, it kinda bugs me. Words encompassing their opposites doesn't leave much room for clear communication.
 
It’s difficult for me to think that this Unrivaled thing isn’t going to be a huge stumbling block in the current CBA negotiations. It is inevitable that players, star players, will end up suffering season ending injuries during the course of the Unrivaled season! If you are asking me, as a WNBA owner to pony up million dollar salaries, there is no way I’m allowing my million dollar investment to take that risk. I’m already risking big time losses as there is no history of the W succeeding financially and now I’ve got to fade the likelihood that one or more of my (now high priced) players won’t be able to play for my team? I don’t think so.

I don’t know what is going to happen but I am sure that’s going to be a problem. I suppose if the player signed a waiver that she would go unpaid from the W in the event of an injury that might suffice but I as an owner would still take it in the shorts as my star player, the one our fans are coming to see, is not available! Maybe Dwayne Wade could give us his thoughts on that? I will admit though, I was dumbfounded at the apparent success of Unrivaled. I would never have thought that was a winning project. Actually, I’m withholding my belief in it’s long term viability til they can show the same success in consecutive years. Anyhoo, them’s my thoughts!
Couple of thoughts:
  • I doubt WNBA teams can shell out Diana’s 2015 Russian payday for each of the 54 WNBA players in Unrivaled and the cascading effect of such paydays on the rest of the rosters;
  • Not when the WNBA is not being transparent about its financials to avoid bargaining transparently on pay;
  • Gabby, in reference to Unrivaled and International play, has already dangled an anti-trust card that the players’ association can play in the upcoming CBA negotiations;
  • It has already been revealed that Unrivaled already approached the WNBA to become its investor and the WNBA refused; Not a biggie by itself, but …
  • Typical WNBA players (probably unlike typical NBA players) don’t have the resources for WNBA offseason skills development in lieu of playing in other leagues, not just Unrivaled.
 
Couple of thoughts:
  • I doubt WNBA teams can shell out Diana’s 2015 Russian payday for each of the 54 WNBA players in Unrivaled and the cascading effect of such paydays on the rest of the rosters;
  • Not when the WNBA is not being transparent about its financials to avoid bargaining transparently on pay;
  • Gabby, in reference to Unrivaled and International play, has already dangled an anti-trust card that the players’ association can play in the upcoming CBA negotiations;
  • It has already been revealed that Unrivaled already approached the WNBA to become its investor and the WNBA refused; Not a biggie by itself, but …
  • Typical WNBA players (probably unlike typical NBA players) don’t have the resources for WNBA offseason skills development in lieu of playing in other leagues, not just Unrivaled.
I had heard the W had already offered to give them 4 times what they are making now and were summarily rebuffed. That equates to one million plus for some (actually quite a few) in the league. My point was merely that if you are getting that kind of money from a league that is at least arguably on shaky financial ground (and overly reliant on the popularity of one player, who they are seemingly constantly trying to injure or drive out of the league) it would not be surprising that the owners would attempt to prevent their players from exposing themselves to injury

I missed the reference to Dee’s Russian payday for 54 players. I have no idea what that means. Why would the W invest in a competitor league anyway? That would not solve their concern about injuries to their star players? As far as I know, players play in other leagues for the money, not as some sort of skill development thing. It is very clear that the final numbers as to salaries is going to be more than four times the current rates as the players have already rejected the 4x offer. I just think the owners, should they spring for that much of a raise, are going to demand some kind of agreement that players not expose themselves to injury risk beyond that which we all face in everyday life. I could be wrong of course, but given the salary increases being bandied about, I don’t think so.
 
I had heard the W had already offered to give them 4 times what they are making now and were summarily rebuffed. That equates to one million plus for some (actually quite a few) in the league. My point was merely that if you are getting that kind of money from a league that is at least arguably on shaky financial ground (and overly reliant on the popularity of one player, who they are seemingly constantly trying to injure or drive out of the league) it would not be surprising that the owners would attempt to prevent their players from exposing themselves to injury

I missed the reference to Dee’s Russian payday for 54 players. I have no idea what that means. Why would the W invest in a competitor league anyway? That would not solve their concern about injuries to their star players? As far as I know, players play in other leagues for the money, not as some sort of skill development thing. It is very clear that the final numbers as to salaries is going to be more than four times the current rates as the players have already rejected the 4x offer. I just think the owners, should they spring for that much of a raise, are going to demand some kind of agreement that players not expose themselves to injury risk beyond that which we all face in everyday life. I could be wrong of course, but given the salary increases being bandied about, I don’t think so.
Diana agreed to be paid extra by her Russian team in 2015 to skip the WNBA season in order to rest herself for her Russian team’s season.

Players won’t entertain &0 any non-compete clause in Unrivaled that restricts their ability to work/ train &2 during their non-WNBA playing days unless they get paid extra to do so.
  • The current WNBA Supermax contract is $250K for 5 months (reportedly proposed to go up to ~ $1M) while the average Unrivaled Salary is $220K for 1 month;
  • I imagine the extra remuneration for not playing is not just for 1 month;
  • The WNBA has painted itself in a box as to whether they can pay extra for all (not just 54) WNBA players to skip the Unrivaled season and all other leagues because of their CBA untransparent miser stance.
Then there’s the problem of whether such expensive non-compete clause is lawful.
  • Why now?
  • WNBA players always supplemented their WNBA incomes and develop their skills &2 by playing in other leagues. Unrivaled became very attractive because of the WNBA’s prioritization rule.
  • So the WNBA flexing its market power to stifle Unrivaled is problematic &1 which could lead to a judicial anti-trust finding based on a wide net of evidence with redress, say, including disclosure of its financials to the players’ union.
“We look at ourselves as an extension of what the WNBA has built, what college basketball has built, the excitement,” Bazzell said. “We want to extend the runway and bring more visibility to the stars domestically.”

“Seattle Storm player Gabby Williams was outspoken during All-Star Weekend that she thinks the WNBA wants to see the end of Unrivaled and another U.S.-based league, Athletes Unlimited, even if they aren't direct competitors with the WNBA's summertime schedule. The WNBA hasn't said that. But the owners have been willing to put more pressure on the players since the last CBA to affirm their loyalty to the WNBA.” WNBA's CBA negotiations: From rev sharing to potential lockout - ESPN

&0 “It would make sense if they were paying us more here, but it still isn’t the case, even with the new proposals. And it’s very clear now that they wanna push Unrivaled out, push AU out.” WNBA CBA negotiations: How could a new deal affect outside leagues like Athletes Unlimited, Unrivaled? - Yahoo Sports

&1 “If [pushing leagues out] becomes a bigger issue, obviously I think players will step in from AU and Unrivaled to protect that, because that’s an asset that we created on our own outside of W ownership [and] leadership to have, so we want to keep those programs going,” [Isabelle] Harrison said.

&2 “The short nature of the WNBA season means players want to find ways to stay active and develop over a five-to-six-month period.”
 

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