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Dwayne Killings

fleudslipcon said:
That's on Miles. Strange that Nebraska hired Miles given his record was 71-88 his previous five years at Colorado State.
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Only strange if you look at it in a vacuum.

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He helped turn a moribund program around.
 
tzznandrew said:
Only strange if you look at it in a vacuum.

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He helped turn a moribund program around.
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I saw that. Not sure you take a flyer on one great year even with the trend. And his efforts at Nebraska are worse than KO’s albeit he’s in a tougher conference.

Hurley is far more proven. Let’s hope he demonstrates success at a National brand.
 
Stainmaster said:
Please tell me this is part of your contrarian shtick.
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Um, maybe? The Sun Belt comment was somewhat tongue and cheek, but I'm interested in learning about the contrarian shtick I've apparently developed, especially since your opinions have changed so much in the last couple months.
 
champs99and04 said:
Um, maybe? The Sun Belt comment was somewhat tongue and cheek, but I'm interested in learning about the contrarian shtick I've apparently developed, especially since your opinions have changed so much in the last couple months.
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That wasn't meant as as much of a dig as it may have come off as initially. From my perspective, there have been times where you've taken a dissenting viewpoint from the conventional wisdom in order to spark discussion -- which is a good thing in my book! But ranking on a freshman who put up 13 and 9 against the eventual national champions as being not good enough for this level seemed a bit off base.
 
Stainmaster said:
That wasn't meant as as much of a dig as it may have come off as initially. From my perspective, there have been times where you've taken a dissenting viewpoint from the conventional wisdom in order to spark discussion -- which is a good thing in my book! But ranking on a freshman who put up 13 and 9 against the eventual national champions as being not good enough for this level seemed a bit off base.
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I didn't think you meant it as a dig, and I'm not surprised by how you've read my recent run of posts. You might be partially right for the reasons you mentioned. As a general philosophy I try to argue the underrepresented viewpoint, not necessarily to be a contrarian (though sometimes that might be true), but because I've grown increasingly resistant to see the world in the right/wrong binary. With regards to Ollie, I get the sense that everything related to the program these days gets filtered through an excessive and emotional reaction that incorporates a lot of recency bias. And that's largely all legitimate. I'm just drawing the line a little lower on the latter than others, and that's fine.

Carlton can definitely play. A guy like Zach Auguste might be an accurate comp, and he was a very good player for a couple of extremely good Notre Dame teams. He could also turn out to be something less than that, and that's OK, too. When you're choosing from a cluster of players in that ballpark, chances are you're A) getting a good player and B) not getting a good player right away. Carlton actually tracks pretty well so far.

The only thing that's tricky is the fact that there is so much parity in college basketball, which means you need to be pretty damn meticulous in your program building if you're going to avoid the curse of normalcy. Killings, to my eye, certainly didn't do anything here - that is plain to the naked eye today - that he couldn't have done at Temple. Incidentally, Temple has lived in the Josh Carlton zone over the last few years - to what extent Killings recruited those players, I don't know, but their 1 tourney in 5 year run is the flip side to what can make the sport great. You've been the catalyst for banging the drum on how lucky this fan base has been, and I definitely respected that take even when you came off as being a wet blanket. If that had the weird effect of persuading me to believe something that you no longer believe, then I guess that's how these things go. Ollie took the ship off track, but not as far as people think...and more importantly, I anticipate that whatever track Ollie was supposed to have us on will prove unreasonable for Hurley.
 
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brewcity77 said:
Hey guys, Marquette fan and infrequent visitor. I just saw we hired Dwayne Killings. I was wondering what you could tell me about him, as far as recruiting, what role he served on Ollie's staff, and just what he brings to the table as an assistant. Thanks in advance.
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You got a jem. Excellent recruiter, good guy, who was buried by the chaos here at Uconn.
 
Goat said:
Killings was a friend of former coach Kevin Ollie who decided to make him a part of the UConn family. Ollie was only 127 and 79 as our head coach and 7 and 1 in the NCAA tournament. Unfortunately, he was an abject failure who recruited players who he allowed to become injured, some before arriving in Storrs! This resulted in 2 consecutive losing seasons. He was late to implement the pizza parlor recruiting techniques favored on this board and it has been 4 years since he last won a national championship and so he was fired for cause. Killings recruited two players, rising sophomores, still on the team, neither of which are as good as Emeka Okafor in his junior year. Simply put, no friend of Kevin Ollie could possibly help your basketball team. Too bad for you.
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This is very well said and funny-- but its a bad take
 
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The Funster said:
I think he watched Youtube videos of other people catching them
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Perhaps he made up pithy catch phrases about catching them.

"Butterfly nets are for cowards"

#nonets
 
Here's hoping he works out. Thanks again, Boneyard. Love visiting this place, it's one of the best message boards out there.
 
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