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Message: [QUOTE="DefenseBB, post: 4543611, member: 7492"] As a brief correction Kara's first year was 2020-21 and that was the year fans were not allow. She cancelled the season after 4 games (3-1, 0-1). Her first full season after Covid, 2021-22 saw 3,018 which was down from McCallie's last year of 3,417 of 2019-2020 which you noted. And yes, McCallie did see a "gradual decline" the last 7 years of the program, it was gradual. Kara has "cratered" the program this year now at 1,620 for 12 home games as last year she averaged 3,018 (as shown in the chart. She does have her 2 biggest rivals coming into Cameron with NC and NC State but traditionally NC State has about 4,650 fans per game at Cameron while NC fluctuates between 5,230-7.827 (the former being the last two seasons of attendance and the latter being the last 9 seasons. Even those will not boost Kara above last year and I estimate 4,700 and 7,000 for a new average of 2,223. That is a crater and not explained by your "star" power logic. Who in the last 8 years did McCallie have as a "star" vs. Celeste Taylor? As for the students, they seemed to have lost interest, points or no points. Kara is still a young coach but in year 3, someone needs to tap her on the shoulder and explain "grass roots to her" and show her the historical attendance so maybe that will get her "competitive juices" flowing. While you say insular, I think it is the word "arrogant" given how she comes across in the media. She has had a great 2023 season regardless of what happens with NC/NC State and the ACC tournament. That said, for the fans to not show up is not predicated on a "defensive team" otherwise why would fans have attended MSU or SC games all these years. Plus look at Texas now which is also a "defense first" team but yet Vic has gotten fans out there. Same for LSU. I appreciate your feedback but to me, you seem to be "whistling past the grave yard" saying to yourself "nothing to be afraid of".... [/QUOTE]

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