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DT sounds off on the W

Running the WNBA IS a humanitarian effort right now. The market is not large. However, the Sun might be Connecticut's first successful tier 1 professional franchise. They seem as if they are here to stay. Outlasted the Whalers.
 
nwhoopfan said:
Even then. $100+ K for a janitor? Or was she talking about rookie contracts?
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"And I use an example of when B.G. [Brittney Griner] was a rookie, she was walking in this arena, and the janitor was making more money than her."
 
nwhoopfan said:
Even then. $100+ K for a janitor? Or was she talking about rookie contracts?
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Rookie contracts but DT neglects the fact that Griner as a rookie making 40-50k only plays for Phoenix 3-4 months out of the year....the janitor works full time year round.

Players get worked up over salaries but no one offers viable solutions or acknowledges that the games are poorly attended. Do they really think owners are taking in big bucks from the W? The money has to come from somewhere.

And I've posted on this a zillion times but despite what these articles tell you, the players are NOT poor by any means. Most vets make 6 figures for working 3-4 months out of the year and have 8-9 months free to supplement their income with overseas play (which usually pays more), coaching, or something completely outside of basketball. No, it isnt NBA money, but good players who have a 10+ career playing year round can build up a pretty nice nest egg to live off of after their playing days are over. Or at least give them a big head start compared to most individuals who are in the work force.
 
Butch said:
Running the WNBA IS a humanitarian effort right now. The market is not large. However, the Sun might be Connecticut's first successful tier 1 professional franchise. They seem as if they are here to stay. Outlasted the Whalers.
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I suspect the Sun’s losses are a small expense item in the casino’s marketing budget. Get a few thousand people into the casino parking lot 15 times a year, and a lot of them even buy tickets. Hmmmmm....
 
brownale said:
Maybe it would help if a wealthy woman (Oprah, etc.) would step up and buy an WNBA team and pay the required salaries to lead the way.
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She would need to buy the whole league. The league has rules preventing one team from spending more than the others. These go beyond salary cap & salary rules (no private or first class travel, limits on compensation from side jobs with a team’s affiliated company, etc.).
 
j66kicker said:
She would need to buy the whole league. The league has rules preventing one team from spending more than the others. These go beyond salary cap & salary rules (no private or first class travel, limits on compensation from side jobs with a team’s affiliated company, etc.).
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Trim the rosters to 8 players - that immediately gives the best players a 50% pay raise and eliminates a lot of marginal players. With only the very best playing the product should improve.
 
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brownale said:
Trim the rosters to 8 players - that immediately gives the best players a 50% pay raise and eliminates a lot of marginal players. With only the very best playing the product should improve.
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Injuries, foul trouble, fatigue ???
 
eebmg said:
Injuries, foul trouble, fatigue ???
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For a 50% pay raise, I'll play when I'm tired (season is short and I get rest between games). Eliminate the ticky-tack fouls and/or up the foul limit to 7.
 
Butch said:
Running the WNBA IS a humanitarian effort right now. The market is not large. However, the Sun might be Connecticut's first successful tier 1 professional franchise. They seem as if they are here to stay. Outlasted the Whalers.
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Only because most of the seats are free to gamblers and thus subsidized by their loses via the casino. The line to get free tickets is a long one.
 
DefenseBB said:
Actually that part is probably the one fact DT got 100% right. The janitor/custodian works a full year for that salary while the lesser WBB player “works” 4 months. So the “salary” itself is one year vs. 4 months but hey it was just pointed out that Dee was never strong in economics.
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Why is “works” in quotation marks?
 
msf22b said:
But comparing salaries to current attendance and acceptance is a "red herring': and is not a real world explanation for the problem.

Just typical American greed and willingness to exploit talent. not a whole lot different from coal miners and automobile laborers.
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I could not agree more.
 
Butch said:
Running the WNBA IS a humanitarian effort right now. The market is not large. However, the Sun might be Connecticut's first successful tier 1 professional franchise. They seem as if they are here to stay. Outlasted the Whalers.
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The whalers weren’t being subsidized by the nhl or any other entity though.
 
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RockyMTblue2 said:
There is no profit motive or effort in European women's basketball. They have far worse attendance at most games. There are corporate and government sponsors who burnish their images with these teams. Europe offers no economic model.
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Following the European model would be: Eliminate the salary cap, Jeff Bezos buys a team, the Amazonians win 8 straight championships because they have all the best players.
 
CTrefugee said:
Only because most of the seats are free to gamblers and thus subsidized by their loses via the casino. The line to get free tickets is a long one.
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Either way, decent attendance at Sun games.
 
meyers7 said:
Prolly because most people on here would love for their "work" to be playing basketball for 4 months. :cool:
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Time for the players to refuse their salaries, pray for forgiveness at their egocentric ways and pay out of their pocket for the privelage of playing to the team owners and dont forget that the players should also pay the fans to come to their games.
 
eebmg said:
Time for the players to refuse their salaries, pray for forgiveness at their egocentric ways and pay out of their pocket for the privelage of playing to the team owners and dont forget that the players should also pay the fans to come to their games.
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If you have a job you love, you'll never have to work a day in your life. (I think somebody said that)
 
Butch said:
Running the WNBA IS a humanitarian effort right now. The market is not large. However, the Sun might be Connecticut's first successful tier 1 professional franchise. They seem as if they are here to stay. Outlasted the Whalers.
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“Tier 1 professional team”? Umm, just because they outlasted the Whalers and quite a few other WNBA teams, not sure I call it a Tier 1. :rolleyes:
 
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Orangutan said:
Following the European model would be: Eliminate the salary cap, Jeff Bezos Ex-Wife buys a team with the money she acquired from the divorce to empower more women to do what they love and the Amazonians win 8 straight championships because they have all the best players.
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There, I fixed it for you...:rolleyes:
 
Thank God for Europe. We spend billions defending them; they reciprocate by paying a few of our most talented women ballers! Let's have the Defense Department adopt the WNBA, pay every one of them a fortune, and withdraw from Europe and let them defend themselves.

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DefenseBB said:
“Tier 1 professional team”? Umm, just because they outlasted the Whalers and quite a few other WNBA teams, not sure I call it a Tier 1. :rolleyes:
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I would. Best players in the world in their sport? :rolleyes:

Anyone else think the new WNBA logo looks like Diana Taurasi?
 
eebmg said:
Time for the players to refuse their salaries, pray for forgiveness at their egocentric ways and pay out of their pocket for the privelage of playing to the team owners and dont forget that the players should also pay the fans to come to their games.
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Having been to a dozen or so WNBA games years ago, I can honestly say they couldn't pay me to go to a WNBA game.
 
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meyers7 said:
Prolly because most people on here would love for their "work" to be playing basketball for 4 months. :cool:
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Of course it’s a fun job, but I think it’s absurd when people act like it isn’t work. Professional athletes get paid a lot of money to play a game, but they also work extremely hard, put in an insane amount of hours, and have crazy schedules. I feel like many fans overlook those aspects far too often.
 
UConn990411 said:
Of course it’s a fun job,
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I think that's the point, most people don't have a fun job.

I agree they work really hard, if it was easy everyone would do it. But a lot of people work really hard, but at sucky jobs......12 months a year.
 
The situation will not improve until women become dedicated sports fans and buy tickets, support teams and bring their friends and families to the games. Men aren't going to do it in sufficient numbers to sustain the WNBA. Being a fan starts at a young age and mothers need to pass the "fan gene" on to their daughters. Go to games together and watch games on TV together. Women should consider bringing a date to a game. Once there is a significant fanbase made up of women who love basketball, the WNBA will succeed. Until then, the league will depend upon the whims of owners who treat it more as a "hobby" than a serious business.
 
Butch said:
I would. Best players in the world in their sport? :rolleyes:

Anyone else think the new WNBA logo looks like Diana Taurasi?
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No, but it should. I think the consensus here when they made the change was it looks like Kiah Stokes. IMO the logo should look so much like DT that no one would ever have to ask.
 
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Trappist said:
The situation will not improve until women become dedicated sports fans and buy tickets, support teams and bring their friends and families to the games. Men aren't going to do it in sufficient numbers to sustain the WNBA. Being a fan starts at a young age and mothers need to pass the "fan gene" on to their daughters. Go to games together and watch games on TV together. Women should consider bringing a date to a game. Once there is a significant fanbase made up of women who love basketball, the WNBA will succeed. Until then, the league will depend upon the whims of owners who treat it more as a "hobby" than a serious business.
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While I surely don't disagree that there are numerous groups, women with children included, that are under-represented in the W's fan base, I really think your post is a bit simplistic.

Put very simply - there isn't a huge fan base out there that has a "gene" to pass along. They don't go to games but they also don't (in large part) watch on TV either. They are not interested, in the same way that I am not particularly a soccer fan or a men's basketball fan. Some just don't choose to take the time and effort to follow the sport - I was at one time in my life a hockey fan and it is sure can be exciting to watch, but I don't, because I have enough other things keeping me busy.

As I have posted often, I'm not a big WNBA fan, really. Love the game experience, enjoy watching (as far as it goes) but . . . I much prefer following college women's basketball and find it much more accessible to the fan base as well.

One difference is that if you are a W fan, unless you live near a team, you are probably following players rather than a particular team. In college, I root for Rutgers and Arizona, pretty much regardless of who the actual players are.
 
First time poster. But i believe the W misses out the most on college fans. Many college fans don’t carry to the W. I love the college game but don’t pay any attention to the W. Game times are atrocious, storylines don’t continue, and even tho they are the best players in the world people just love their schools more than the actual players. Uconn being an obvious exception. The girls are way better than they’ve ever been and more athletic but IMO they are not given the opportunity to succeed. When was the last time an nba game was at Noon on a Wednesday. And on espn+ nonetheless
 
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