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16 points on 7 of 12 shooting and 2 for 2 from the charity stripe, 17 boards, 6 in an offensive manner, 2 assists, 3 steals, 2 blocks and only 2 personal fouls in 40 minutes, with ZERO turnovers.

Harrison Barnes, Terrence Ross, Thomas Robinson, and Deion Waiters all were taken ahead of him. Go check out their stats.

Damn.
 
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The crazy thing is that those stats have been par for the course. He is averaging 13 and 13 on the year (15 and 13 in February). He is also the 7th youngest player in the NBA. He will most likely be the best center of his generation.
 
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He and Davis will resurrect the Ewing/Olajuwan, Russell/Chamberlain, Parrish/Kareem, Shaq/Duncan center duels of years past.

The good thing is that they are both so young allowing NBA fans many years of watching something historic and memorable. To say that AD is better than Davis (or vice versa) is too early, as they both will have many years to settle matters. By the way both are also getting better. I see them both as being the new NBA marketing/advertisement focus.

Finally, the Center position is again relevant (at least these two) in the NBA. I just may watch more NBA games.
 
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I know it's been hashed and re-hashed on here, but It's hard to not think back to that 2011-12 team and wonder why they couldn't dominate more. I know key players were young, but dang that team was stacked. They had UConn's current core team....Bazz, Boat, DD, Giffey plus Drummond, Lamb, Oriakhi, Roscoe.

What a great collection of talent.

Pos.#NameHeightWeightYearHome town
G4Brendan Allen6 ft 3 in (1.91 m)187 lb (85 kg)FrWindsor, CT
G21Kyle Bailey6 ft 3 in (1.91 m)170 lb (77 kg)SrLancaster, NH
G11Ryan Boatright6 ft 2 in (1.88 m)165 lb (75 kg)FrAurora, IL
F/C25Michael Bradley6 ft 10 in (2.08 m)235 lb (107 kg)RS FrChattanooga, TN
G14P.J. Cochrane6 ft 2 in (1.88 m)200 lb (91 kg)SrNewtown, CT
F2DeAndre Daniels6 ft 7 in (2.01 m)191 lb (87 kg)FrWoodland Hills, CA
C12Andre Drummond6 ft 10 in (2.08 m)275 lb (125 kg)FrMiddletown, CT
G/F5Niels Giffey6 ft 7 in (2.01 m)210 lb (95 kg)SoBerlin, Germany
G/F3Jeremy Lamb6 ft 5 in (1.96 m)185 lb (84 kg)SoNorcross, GA
G13Shabazz Napier6 ft 0 in (1.83 m)170 lb (77 kg)SoRandolph, MA
F10Tyler Olander6 ft 9 in (2.06 m)225 lb (102 kg)SoMansfield, CT
F/C34Alex Oriakhi6 ft 9 in (2.06 m)240 lb (109 kg)JrLowell, MA
F22Roscoe Smith6 ft 8 in (2.03 m)205 lb (93 kg)SoBaltimore, MD
F23Benjamin Stewart6 ft 5 in (1.96 m)205 lb (93 kg)JrDenver, CO
G40Ethan Waite5 ft 10 in (1.78 m)165 lb (75 kg)SrEast Hartford, CT
C1Enosch Wolf7 ft 1 in (2.16 m)260 lb (118 kg)SoGöttingen, Germany
 
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Biggest difference is that in college he was called for 2 Bu(( offensive fouls a game for chucking smaller guys out of the way. In the NBA those are just not called fouls, and he is just killing people on the boards.

Andre is the prototype for the kind of guy that will be better in the more physical/spaced NBA game than college.

And I love it.

**and this comes from an Andre defender. Anyone who doesn't think 10 pts, 7 rbs, 2.5 blocks from a freshman is awesome needs their head checked!**
 

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*and this comes from an Andre defender. Anyone who doesn't think 10 pts, 7 rbs, 2.5 blocks from a freshman is awesome needs their head checked!

The criticism AD receives here is ridiculous. He was a freshman in 11-12 and barely 18. He's STILL so young. He's definitely gifted and you could see it in flashes so it was frustrating. But those that argue he should have been the guy to pull the 11-12 team out of the gutter are idiots. That team was fractured before he got there and he had nothing to do with it.

He will be in the league for a long time and represent the university extraordinarily well since he's from CT and went to UConn. He's a very likable kid and he will be a tremendous ambassador for the university. I think he's quashed any rumors about his 'low motor' that we heard pre-draft. He's certainly making a lot of NBA GMs look dumb.
 
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The criticism AD receives here is ridiculous. He was a freshman in 11-12 and barely 18. He's STILL so young. He's definitely gifted and you could see it in flashes so it was frustrating. But those that argue he should have been the guy to pull the 11-12 team out of the gutter are idiots. That team was fractured before he got there and he had nothing to do with it.

He will be in the league for a long time and represent the university extraordinarily well since he's from CT and went to UConn. He's a very likable kid and he will be a tremendous ambassador for the university. I think he's quashed any rumors about his 'low motor' that we heard pre-draft. He's certainly making a lot of NBA GMs look dumb.
I blame this video for the criticism:
 

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The criticism AD receives here is ridiculous. He was a freshman in 11-12 and barely 18. He's STILL so young. He's definitely gifted and you could see it in flashes so it was frustrating. But those that argue he should have been the guy to pull the 11-12 team out of the gutter are idiots. That team was fractured before he got there and he had nothing to do with it.

He will be in the league for a long time and represent the university extraordinarily well since he's from CT and went to UConn. He's a very likable kid and he will be a tremendous ambassador for the university. I think he's quashed any rumors about his 'low motor' that we heard pre-draft. He's certainly making a lot of NBA GMs look dumb.

I thought he should be the #1 pick ahead of Davis. Davis never really impressed me, and I didn't see much room for him to improve or put on the weight and strenth he'd need. Andre was the most athletic guy his size I'd seen since at least Olajuwan/David Robinson (or perhaps Howard, who has a different game and is shorter). His upside was and is, staggering. He's just scratching the surface.
 
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hyperthink said:
yeah i think u were wrong about davis bro

I think the majority of the board avoids the NBA. Clearly this poster does. Davis is on track to becoming a Hall of Famer if he stays healthy.
 
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No problem with Anthony Davis going #1. The main problem is Andre Drummond going 9th. Have to think that each GM picking 2-8 are kicking themselves now (although I'm sure the Trailblazers are happy with Lillard).
 
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The crazy thing is that those stats have been par for the course.

Yes indeed! I was honestly expecting a much bigger stat line when I clicked on this thread. His FT% is even over 40% this year!
 
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I thought he should be the #1 pick ahead of Davis. Davis never really impressed me, and I didn't see much room for him to improve or put on the weight and strenth he'd need. Andre was the most athletic guy his size I'd seen since at least Olajuwan/David Robinson (or perhaps Howard, who has a different game and is shorter). His upside was and is, staggering. He's just scratching the surface.

You need to watch a Pelicans game, Davis is incredible
 
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Davis really is a transcendent player. Damn near seven feet with the skill set of a two guard. Much like Durant, the fact that he's never going to be able to put on a ton of weight (relatively speaking), is going to be irrelevant because of what a freak he is. 20 points, 10 boards, 3 blocks...and he doesn't turn 21 for ten days. If he isn't a HOF, it will be because his body broke down.

Drummond is also a freak of nature, but in a different way. He's a 6'11 guy with an amazing pair of hands, superb body control, and super-human athletic ability. Unlike Davis, he will be chiseled with a few more years in the weight room (think of the LeBron/Dwight transformation, he's headed down that same path). The difference between him and Davis is that Drummond didn't grow eight inches his junior year of high school. He still doesn't have much in the way of a post game, he can't really take you off the dribble consistently, he has no jump shot, and he's a major liability from the three throw line. In the case of a normal big, that combination of weaknesses would earn you a ticket to Europe or a job at Home Depot, yet Drummond is dominating NBA games because he's a Herculean specimen. He still probably needs 3 years or so to truly put everything together, but if he ever does get there, he could go down as one of the best of all-time.

LeBron and Durant are basically Ali and Frazier right now, and it seems like they take their games to new, unimaginable heights each night. The dynamic is simply awesome because there seems to be some legitimate one-up-manship going on, and that makes the head-to-head match-ups even more of a spectacle. Drummond and Davis obviously have a long way to go before they can rival even half of that sort of match-up, but given neither has reached 21-years-old, and really, would both be in college in a different era, the Duncan/Shaq comparisons aren't as absurd as they may seem on the surface.
 
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New insider article touts drummond as a future MVP candidate. Needs to change his FT form though. Imagine if he got picked by GSW over Barnes? Sucks he is in Detroit right now.
 
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Drummond may never shoot the ball well but I will be surprised if he doesn't turn into a Dwight like offensive player, at absolute worst. AD's combination of hands and touch is amazing - his touch around the hoop is superior to Dwight already. Dwight has that Alex Oriakhi fluidity around the rim; he would look absolutely silly attempting one of the finger rolls AD does on a regular basis.
 
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Davis is a freak, he could be the best player in the NBA is a few years, Drummond still needs a post game but he still dominates a lot of the time just because of his freakishness. Davis' versatility is what makes him such a phenomenal talent, Drummond doesn't have a lot of the things Davis has in his repertoire but Davis will never have a body like Drummond, Andre also has the best pair of hands and is the best pure rebounder in the league in my opinion. Just crazy what these guys are already doing at 20 years old.
 

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I think the majority of the board avoids the NBA. Clearly this poster does. Davis is on track to becoming a Hall of Famer if he stays healthy.

Yes, I watch some games, but I confess, with the Celtics tanking (thank God) I don't turn it on that much lately (this year and most of last year). So I have indeed missed seeing Davis except ESPN highlights. I did see him at UK however, and wondered if his game would translate. Seems that it has.
 
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Imagine if Drummond slipped one more spot past the Pistons, could you imagine the Pelicans having Davis & Drummond paired together? Yeeesh...
 
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Imagine if Drummond slipped one more spot past the Pistons, could you imagine the Pelicans having Davis & Drummond paired together? Yeeesh...
Not that Monroe is anywhere close to as good as Davis, but I was really looking forward to seeing him and Drummond play 35 mpg together. They played off one another really well (in limited time) last year.

Too bad Joe Dumars is terrible at his job. I'm no Josh Smith hater, but he's just a terrible fit for that team.
 
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Not that Monroe is anywhere close to as good as Davis, but I was really looking forward to seeing him and Drummond play 35 mpg together. They played off one another really well (in limited time) last year.

Too bad Joe Dumars is terrible at his job. I'm no Josh Smith hater, but he's just a terrible fit for that team.
You're right, the pieces just don't fit at all. They are shopping Josh Smith but I don't think anyone is interested. Brandon Jennings was also a bad signing, he is a high volume shooter which is not what you want from your point guard especially when you are trying to develop Drummond's post game. Dumars has been a disaster since the great job he did assembling their championship team.
 
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Davis really is a transcendent player. Damn near seven feet with the skill set of a two guard. Much like Durant, the fact that he's never going to be able to put on a ton of weight (relatively speaking), is going to be irrelevant because of what a freak he is. 20 points, 10 boards, 3 blocks...and he doesn't turn 21 for ten days. If he isn't a HOF, it will be because his body broke down.

Drummond is also a freak of nature, but in a different way. He's a 6'11 guy with an amazing pair of hands, superb body control, and super-human athletic ability. Unlike Davis, he will be chiseled with a few more years in the weight room (think of the LeBron/Dwight transformation, he's headed down that same path). The difference between him and Davis is that Drummond didn't grow eight inches his junior year of high school. He still doesn't have much in the way of a post game, he can't really take you off the dribble consistently, he has no jump shot, and he's a major liability from the three throw line. In the case of a normal big, that combination of weaknesses would earn you a ticket to Europe or a job at Home Depot, yet Drummond is dominating NBA games because he's a Herculean specimen. He still probably needs 3 years or so to truly put everything together, but if he ever does get there, he could go down as one of the best of all-time.

LeBron and Durant are basically Ali and Frazier right now, and it seems like they take their games to new, unimaginable heights each night. The dynamic is simply awesome because there seems to be some legitimate one-up-manship going on, and that makes the head-to-head match-ups even more of a spectacle. Drummond and Davis obviously have a long way to go before they can rival even half of that sort of match-up, but given neither has reached 21-years-old, and really, would both be in college in a different era, the Duncan/Shaq comparisons aren't as absurd as they may seem on the surface.

100% spot on. Agree with everything you said. Great post.
 
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You're right, the pieces just don't fit at all. They are shopping Josh Smith but I don't think anyone is interested. Brandon Jennings was also a bad signing, he is a high volume shooter which is not what you want from your point guard especially when you are trying to develop Drummond's post game. Dumars has been a disaster since the great job he did assembling their championship team.

Yeah, Dumars basically has go after this season. With promising young talent, he really hurt the direction of the team. If they don't turn things around in one way or another, they'll likely miss the playoffs and have to give their first round pick to Charlotte (top 8 protected, I believe) in one of the best drafts in years. Complete disaster of a season for them. But if nothing else, at least all of Jennings' and Smith's missed shots pad Drummond's rebounding stats.
 
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