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CamrnCrz1974 said:
What was Doris Burke supposed to say?

Instead of saying, "Duke has too much talent to be getting beat this badly by UConn" (which is a true statement), should she have said, "Why does Duke continue to get blown out by UConn despite all of these great recruiting classes? At some point, you have to question the head coach because for all of these highly ranked players and truly elite recruits, her top-five teams are getting blown out by 25 points per game, every game, to UConn."

Doris Burke was much more politically correct and savvy in how she worded her comments.
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Yes she was. Had she said what she really thought she would have been the subject of a nasty tweet soon thereafter.
 
Can't wait to hear what Doris Burke & Co have to say about Omar Calhoun's sister who will be attending Duke next year. Was kinda hoping she'd come & play here...
 
It is more about Doris's tone of voice than the words. She speaks as if every word she utters is of the deepest profundity.
 
intlzncster said:
Yeah, she reminds me of inspector gadget. It's mostly because she is so long that she appears a little goofy. She's obviously super coordinated.

Griner appeared goofy too.
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Ann Strother's nickname coming to UConn actually was Inspector Gadget. Wouldn't know that from looking at her now!
 
Artifact said:
I felt the remark by Burke that Steward looks ' Goofy' was a very condescending statement. I will refrain from making a remark in regard's to Burke's appearance!
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Not at all. I think she looks a little "goofy" when she move and she is a joy to watch.
Your backhanded comment on Doris' appearance is a little condescending don't you think?
 
Biff said:
Not at all. I think she looks a little "goofy" when she move and she is a joy to watch.
Your backhanded comment on Doris' appearance is a little condescending don't you think?
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Your comment on him being condescending to Doris was a little condescending, don't you think?
 
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intlzncster said:
No way. The 3 most talented players on the floor played for UCONN (Stewey, KML, Dolson). Perhaps if you meant coached their whole careers, but UCONN talent definitely exceeds Duke talent by a good margin, as it stands right now.

The game would perhaps be a lot closer, but UCONN players are flat out better. Doesn't always mean they win, but on average.

For instance, I don't think Geno (vs JPM) is worth 25-30 point swing in this case.
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I don't want to either short change Geno or take Coach P off the hook, but there is a decided difference in talent. Especially speed and quickness.

Duke had no one who could keep up with either Moriah or Bria. Gray is a terrific player but by no means fast.

Duke's forwards are both good shooters but neither could guard Stewart. Williams is no match for Dolson. The UConn bench is stronger.

Duke defensive game plan (I'll be generous) seemed to be to pack the paint and take their chances with UConn perimeter shooters. Honestly, I don't think Ray Allen or Reggie Williams would knock down seven treys (like Kaleena amazingly did) after being absent for eight games. [No comment about her failure to adjust to reality.]

Duke, on offense, simply did not have what is needed, individually or as a team, to overcome the stifling UConn defense.

Yes, UConn was flat out better. On offense. On defense. And coaching.
 
ericsandiego said:
And by extension, the inferior coaching (or preparation) of McCallie. Side note - why does she insist on being called Coach P? Joanne P McCallie? Geno Luigi Auriemma? Coach L? That bugs me more than Doris, who I actually like.

Doris isn't afraid to criticize play by either team that is not good. She has a good eye for the game and instantly sees a mistake or flaw that I miss, and she does it on the spot with no instant replay. She may have a few phrases that people make fun of, but overall, she's honest and forthright, and calls it like she sees it, rarely sugar coating things.

I also noticed early on when the score was close that Joanne was coaching the players ALL THE TIME. She was incredibly intense calling out every minutia of play to the team. Once UCONN went on their first run and got the score up to 20-11, she pretty much squatted down and wasn't nearly as vocal (from what I could see). Seemed to me like she gave up even before her team did.
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I agree. I think Doris does a great job.
 
Kibitzer said:
Duke defensive game plan (I'll be generous) seemed to be to pack the paint and take their chances with UConn perimeter shooters. Honestly, I don't think Ray Allen or Reggie Williams would knock down seven treys (like Kaleena amazingly did) after being absent for eight games. [No comment about her failure to adjust to reality.]
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This was inexplicable to me. I mean, I guess you could gamble that KML wouldn't be on form after having sat out. However, after she buried her first few, you might have wised up to the fact that the best shooter in the country is being left WIDE open in the corner.
 
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Aluminny69 said:
IMHO, the rest of Duke's schedule looks much more competitive than UConn's. Duke plays at Kentucky, ND twice, and Maryland. Then the ACC Tourney. I'm not complaining about UConn's schedule, it is what it is, but it is in Duke's benefit that they play more competitive games. Let's see what they do with it. The same could be said for Notre Dame. UConn may be really hurt by playing in a weak conference.

Just a random thought.
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I'm not sure how this fit into the theme here. There have not been discussions about conferences, clearly the acc is a tougher turf then the aac. Do you mean that they will be playing conn-like teams a lot from here on- so while they cannot beat conn they might be able to beat conn-like teams? Or, after playing their touch schedule they will finally beat us when it really matter (presumably we will be wilthering away as a flower in a dried-out pot? When are going to put this view out to rest? I'm convinced that leagues are more about money and bragging rights. ND football is more famous then good (as in the best) but they are not in a conf. The adv. of the B10 or the acc for ucconn is and that they carry all the sports we play. NB. f. & i.hockey and other sports are placed in the BE, etc.

Back to uconn & duke. It was said by Voepal (sp) that there are major diff between the schools: Duke's coach downplayed the sig. of the game to the players- basically saying that uconn has had 30 yrs whilst she is in her 5th. They are new wine while we are old. Equally has impt., Voepel says you (players) get to put the uconn uniform on only after you have shown that you are willing to husle in practices as well as in games, on both side of the ball, etc. (paraphrasing).
 
JoePgh said:
Thought experiment: Suppose last night (and for this season) Geno and his assistants had coached the Duke roster and Coach P had coached the UConn roster. My bet is that the Duke roster would have beat the UConn roster last night.
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No way. Stewart, Dolson, Hartley and KML are just too good and on a roll.

Stewart should come out and play in the WNBA next year.
 
Icebear said:
It is more about Doris's tone of voice than the words. She speaks as if every word she utters is of the deepest profundity.
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Exactly! Ice, as always, you nailed it.
 
Striper69 said:
Stewart should come out and play in the WNBA next year.
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Just a reminder. There is no(t yet any) provision for female players to "come out" of college early to play in the WNBA.

Exceptionally talented (and ambitious) players may follow the example of Epiphanny Prince of Rutgers who IIRC "came out" of college early to play professionally in Europe.

For now, Stewie has no WNBA option. Geno (and we) can count on her playing for UConn for two more seasons.
 
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Aluminny69 said:
IMHO, the rest of Duke's schedule looks much more competitive than UConn's. Duke plays at Kentucky, ND twice, and Maryland. Then the ACC Tourney. I'm not complaining about UConn's schedule, it is what it is, but it is in Duke's benefit that they play more competitive games. Let's see what they do with it. The same could be said for Notre Dame. UConn may be really hurt by playing in a weak conference.

Just a random thought.
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As if we had a choice? As long as Geno remains we'll be OK. Remember the state of the Big East before we won in 1995?
 
meyers7 said:
Eh, so do half the poster on here.
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Probably wouldn't enjoy their game call either.

BTW, the assigned word for the day at ESPN last Tuesday was, "compete."
 
Kibitzer said:
... There is no(t yet any) provision for female players to "come out" of college early to play in the WNBA. Exceptionally talented (and ambitious) players may follow the example of Epiphanny Prince of Rutgers who IIRC "came out" of college early to play professionally in Europe ...
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Prince's case was something of a rarity: her family's desperate financial straights. Although I am no fan of Epiphanny Prince, I think it would have been uncharitable of anyone to oppose her reaching out to grab the gold ring a year early.
 
JoePgh said:
Thought experiment: Suppose last night (and for this season) Geno and his assistants had coached the Duke roster and Coach P had coached the UConn roster. My bet is that the Duke roster would have beat the UConn roster last night.
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Uconn would win, are you serious? Just because we beat duke doesn't mean their coach can't coach. We clearly have better players(I think at every position) . Dukes coach had that team at n.2 going in. We'd win by less but we'd still win
 
Wonkster said:
Prince's case was something of a rarity: her family's desperate financial straights. Although I am no fan of Epiphanny Prince, I think it would have been uncharitable of anyone to oppose her reaching out to grab the gold ring a year early.
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ahem. Financial straits.

Let the record show that I was not uncharitable toward Prince in any way. I neither opposed nor criticized her for seizing the opportunity that was presented to her.

I hope that neither Stewie nor any of her teammates (present or future) are compelled to emulate Epiphanny's decision.

My point was that the WNBA is not (at least for now) an option for underclass(wo)men.
 
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Kib, I think he meant the family finances were flatlined. One flat straight line.;)
 
Icebear said:
Kib, I think he meant the family finances were flatlined. One flat straight line.;)
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No.

I think this very bright guy had the kind of momentary lapse we all experience occasionally (how many times have I said, "Oops!," or "I concede the point"?) and I politely played "Gotcha!" with an old friend. Thus the "Ahem" intro.

Financial straits suggest personal or family difficulties, which is not in any way an indication of lack of values or a shortcoming in character. And I thought it important for readers here to have no doubt about what I was talking about (or not talking about).
 
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