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The B1G has a division of labor. Ohio State and Michigan win championships, Rutgers provides cable revenue. It works well.
 
huskymedic said:
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Rutgers hires law firm that deals exclusively with potential NCAA violations for investigation of football program
http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/i...res_law_firm_for_top_to_bottom_investiga.html
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This is a total CYA move by the university designed to protect Hermann and Barchi. At most, Flood will be fired and the team will be hit with some form of scholarship reduction and fine. Not like the on-field product can get worse. Then, some old washed-up coach looking to pad his pension will be the next coach as Rutgers can't afford a top tier coach and no rising star will want to work under that leadership team.

Now, if Rutgers' faculty union instead of the University hired the law firm, the football team would be a Dead Man Walking.
 
Mr. Conehead said:
This is a total CYA move by the university designed to protect Hermann and Barchi. At most, Flood will be fired and the team will be hit with some form of scholarship reduction and fine. Not like the on-field product can get worse. Then, some old washed-up coach looking to pad his pension will be the next coach as Rutgers can't afford a top tier coach and no rising star will want to work under that leadership team.

Now, if Rutgers' faculty union instead of the University hired the law firm, the football team would be a Dead Man Walking.
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I think that would be wishful thinking. It's not easy to get rid of a coach as some suggest. They'd have to eat all those contracts. It may come out that the program, mostly, could be exonerated, with a few spots of course.
 
ruthetiger said:
I think that would be wishful thinking. It's not easy to get rid of a coach as some suggest. They'd have to eat all those contracts. It may come out that the program, mostly, could be exonerated, with a few spots of course.
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Flood's CIA like antics around the grade scandal are enough to get him fired nevermind the numerous arrests. He is going to get canned to protect Hermann and Barichi from further scrutiny. The only question is who can Rutgers get to replace Flood.
 
Mr. Conehead said:
Flood's CIA like antics around the grade scandal are enough to get him fired nevermind the numerous arrests. He is going to get canned to protect Hermann and Barichi from further scrutiny. The only question is who can Rutgers get to replace Flood.
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CL82 said:
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If Coach Paul, and I use the word 'coach' very loosely, emerged as the next coach at Rutgers, I am writing tot he folks in Trenton to protest the use of any of my tax dollars to pay for his salary. While I have no love for Rutgers football, none of the local kids from my town who are going to Rutgers deserve that fate.
 
Well, all charges have been dropped against Rutger's star WR, Carroo. In turn, Coach Flood has immediately reinstated him to the team. I suspect that there is a lot more to this story that what has been in the press, so I won't comment on it. That said, I am not sure how a 'suspended' football coach can reinstate any football player. Naturally, AD Hermann nor President Barchi has responded to requests for more information.
 
I am still waiting for someone to explain to me the difference between what Larry Brown is alleged to have allowed happen at SMU and what Kyle Flood has actually been exposed to have done at Rutgers.

Both involved academic fraud and exerting influence, but it seems like one program is facing a much stiffer penalty from the NCAA. Imagine that...
 
NYUConn said:
I am still waiting for someone to explain to me the difference between what Larry Brown is alleged to have allowed happen at SMU and what Kyle Flood has actually been exposed to have done at Rutgers.

Both involved academic fraud and exerting influence, but it seems like one program is facing a much stiffer penalty from the NCAA. Imagine that...
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Rutgers is just incompetent. SMU actively hire Brown who had been sanction at both Kansas and UCLA. Thus, SMU is getting punished harder because they knew what they were letting in the door. That said, the differences between what the NCAA has done to SMU and what it has (not) done to UNC is incomprehensible.
 
Mr. Conehead said:
Rutgers is just incompetent. SMU actively hire Brown who had been sanction at both Kansas and UCLA. Thus, SMU is getting punished harder because they knew what they were letting in the door. That said, the differences between what the NCAA has done to SMU and what it has (not) done to UNC is incomprehensible.
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I mean UNC is NCAA royalty. I would never dream that they would receive any kind of real punishment.

I am interested to see though if the NCAA does anything to Rutgers because of this.
 
Mr. Conehead said:
If Coach Paul, and I use the word 'coach' very loosely, emerged as the next coach at Rutgers, I am writing tot he folks in Trenton to protest the use of any of my tax dollars to pay for his salary. While I have no love for Rutgers football, none of the local kids from my town who are going to Rutgers deserve that fate.
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That's messed up man!
 
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Mr. Conehead said:
Well, all charges have been dropped against Rutger's star WR, Carroo. In turn, Coach Flood has immediately reinstated him to the team. I suspect that there is a lot more to this story that what has been in the press, so I won't comment on it. That said, I am not sure how a 'suspended' football coach can reinstate any football player. Naturally, AD Hermann nor President Barchi has responded to requests for more information.
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There is a lot more to this story, but nit in the way that you think. It's easy to make assessments with disregard from an unconcerned distance, and pass it along as an unacceptable truth.

It happened. It's done, certain things came out, certain people know what really happened, it's time to move on.
 
Sea Goat said:
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(BTW, Shaky - are all the boys in your congregation called "Shorty"?)
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Ever heard the old joke about the guy that got teased because his thing-a-ma-bob had "Shorty" tattooed on it? The punch line was that when it was ready it said "Shorty's Bar & Grill, Chattanooga, Tennessee."
 
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For our sakes, we have to hope that Delaney would answer that he has

 
I was hoping to read that Randy approached an empty bus only to learn that the rest of the team went out the back door and chartered their own flight home.
 
Of really no relevance to this thread other than it's Rutgers and probably another testament to why the Big Ten does not regret taking them (OK I guess that is relevance after all): ABC has elected to show Rutgers-Ohio State as their national 8 PM primetime game Saturday.

This is hugely surprising given Rutgers is a middling team, but this has 'NYC' written all over it. Not saying the big apple is going to tune in their television sets in droves to see this one, but it's the first real significant benchmark of what the television networks think of having Rutgers in a league with big boys.

Shameless pandering side note: I still hold out hope as a Big Ten guy this will also include UConn in the next 3-5 years.
 
kyleslamb said:
Of really no relevance to this thread other than it's Rutgers and probably another testament to why the Big Ten does not regret taking them (OK I guess that is relevance after all): ABC has elected to show Rutgers-Ohio State as their national 8 PM primetime game Saturday.

This is hugely surprising given Rutgers is a middling team, but this has 'NYC' written all over it. Not saying the big apple is going to tune in their television sets in droves to see this one, but it's the first real significant benchmark of what the television networks think of having Rutgers in a league with big boys.

Shameless pandering side note: I still hold out hope as a Big Ten guy this will also include UConn in the next 3-5 years.
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Yeah but were i think were catching them at a bad time...they 'OSU' seem to be getting their act together with JT Barrett now after barely beating Indiana.
 
NickyNewark said:
Yeah but were i think were catching them at a bad time...they 'OSU' seem to be getting their act together with JT Barrett now after barely beating Indiana.
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Yeah most people around Ohio State would agree with that completely. Ohio State is definitely a far more dangerous team with Barrett in there. He did really well against Maryland and last night, may just have earned himself the job with that performance.
 
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kyleslamb said:
Of really no relevance to this thread other than it's Rutgers and probably another testament to why the Big Ten does not regret taking them (OK I guess that is relevance after all): ABC has elected to show Rutgers-Ohio State as their national 8 PM primetime game Saturday.

This is hugely surprising given Rutgers is a middling team, but this has 'NYC' written all over it. Not saying the big apple is going to tune in their television sets in droves to see this one, but it's the first real significant benchmark of what the television networks think of having Rutgers in a league with big boys.

Shameless pandering side note: I still hold out hope as a Big Ten guy this will also include UConn in the next 3-5 years.
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I have a feeling KU and UConn are on the radar and odds on fav's to be future adds to the B1G.....wraps up the east. Even if Okie is the team from the west no one but UConn make sense in the NE......the silence lately has been deafening.
 
NickyNewark said:
I have a feeling KU and UConn are on the radar and odds on fav's to be future adds to the B1G.....wraps up the east. Even if Okie is the team from the west no one but UConn make sense in the NE.the silence lately has been deafening.
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If the B1G expands, the question is what shake loose as I believe that the B1G will not add a single school unless said school is ND (would only happen if the ACC falls apart) or Texas (won't be the first team to leave the XII).
Out of the G5 members, I believe that only UConn has a reasonable shot at the B1G. But, UConn will need a partner and that partner will have to come from a P5 member, which is the challenge.
 
Mr. Conehead said:
If the B1G expands, the question is what shake loose as I believe that the B1G will not add a single school unless said school is ND (would only happen if the ACC falls apart) or Texas (won't be the first team to leave the XII).
Out of the G5 members, I believe that only UConn has a reasonable shot at the B1G. But, UConn will need a partner and that partner will have to come from a P5 member, which is the challenge.
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They are staring at us. At worst, they are trying to figure out who else to add. Title IX is historic and UConn is the UCLA of women's basketball.
 
Butch said:
They are staring at us. At worst, they are trying to figure out who else to add. Title IX is historic and UConn is the UCLA of women's basketball.
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Going a little OT.

http://bber.unm.edu/econ/us-pci.htm

Something you guys have been saying all along. Per Capita Income: Connecticut, 1; Kansas 24; Oklahoma, 32;

Not that it's the whole story of course. Mississippi is #50, yet has two SEC schools.
 
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