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Huge get for Memphis. Penny is quickly turning them into a destination spot.
 

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Helps the AAC perception. Other 5-stars in the league softens that argument used against UConn that the AAC is inferior. It has been said for years that UConn and Memphis need to be strong for AAC hoops to take the next step.
 
Walker11 said:
If this is a double edged sword, getting accepted into the ACC would have been a nightmare. This is a single edge sword.
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Unless they start taking the guys we’re going after
 
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SoFla Steve said:
While we need Memphis to recruit successfully to help make the AAC successful, it is also a double-edged sword. Now we have to play against these guys. :eek:
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That is a very short term view point. The best way for UConn to get out of the AAC is to 1) get respectable in football and 2) have UConn and AAC basketball take the spotlight off the ACC and B1G by becoming a 4-5 bid league that makes final 4s.

The old Big East became the thorn in the side of the ACC both financially and on the field. The AAC needs to become the same
 
There should be no issue with Memphis landing big time recruits. None of us want to be in this conference but, while we are, we need as many nationally relevant teams as possible.

As mind numbing as it is to play ECU and Tulsa, it’s actually fun to watch when we’re rolling and you have Memphis, Cincy, SMU, etc. ranked and playing well. I honestly don’t think the AAC is far removed from equaling and surpassing the Big East and, as has been said a million different times, getting us and Memphis back to prominence is the first step
 
Pgh2Storrs said:
There should be no issue with Memphis landing big time recruits. None of us want to be in this conference but, while we are, we need as many nationally relevant teams as possible.

As mind numbing as it is to play ECU and Tulsa, it’s actually fun to watch when we’re rolling and you have Memphis, Cincy, SMU, etc. ranked and playing well. I honestly don’t think the AAC is far removed from equaling and surpassing the Big East and, as has been said a million different times, getting us and Memphis back to prominence is the first step
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Memphis is a really fun city. The school will accept kids we won't
(Not saying relevant to Precious).
 
Pgh2Storrs said:
There should be no issue with Memphis landing big time recruits. None of us want to be in this conference but, while we are, we need as many nationally relevant teams as possible.

As mind numbing as it is to play ECU and Tulsa, it’s actually fun to watch when we’re rolling and you have Memphis, Cincy, SMU, etc. ranked and playing well. I honestly don’t think the AAC is far removed from equaling and surpassing the Big East and, as has been said a million different times, getting us and Memphis back to prominence is the first step
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Yes, I get that Memphis' success is the AAC's success and, by extension, UConn's success. I get it. I was hoping our turnaround would be a season quicker than Penny's. That's all.

I do think it's in our best interest to make the AAC better -- and this won't be popular -- because I don't think conference realignment will happen for us. I think this will be our home and we have to make the best of it. I do believe that, in the short-term, we can move past both the fake Big East and the Big XII in the basketball power rankings. The Pac 12 isn't what it used to be, either.

On that note, I'm shutting down. Kickoff is just minutes away. We gotta beat UMass.
 
SoFla Steve said:
Yes, I get that Memphis' success is the AAC's success and, by extension, UConn's success. I get it. I was hoping our turnaround would be a season quicker than Penny's. That's all.

I do think it's in our best interest to make the AAC better -- and this won't be popular -- because I don't think conference realignment will happen for us. I think this will be our home and we have to make the best of it. I do believe that, in the short-term, we can move past both the fake Big East and the Big XII in the basketball power rankings. The Pac 12 isn't what it used to be, either.

On that note, I'm shutting down. Kickoff is just minutes away. We gotta beat UMass.
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Results on the court will determine that.
 
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Ewekon said:
Memphis is a really fun city. The school will accept kids we won't
(Not saying relevant to Precious).
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That is not even remotely true! UConn will accept any kid that passes the NCAA eligibility center requirements.
 
upstater said:
The coaches have said otherwise. Both Edsall and Ollie have remarked on this. Maybe it's hard to believe but they have both said it.
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They may say it, doesn't make it true. All levels of sports will accept less-than-adequate players academically to boost sports teams. Some of our players very recently have been nearly illiterate.

Do I care? No. Would I try in school if I could spend time on the court and maybe millions in the league? No.
 
husky429 said:
They may say it, doesn't make it true. All levels of sports will accept less-than-adequate players academically to boost sports teams. Some of our players very recently have been nearly illiterate.

Do I care? No. Would I try in school if I could spend time on the court and maybe millions in the league? No.
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I think where you might be able to draw a line is sketchy characters. I don't think there's anyone Memphis wouldn't let in. Given our recent NCAA snafu's, I think UCONN would be careful and not push it with a certain type of kid (not that Hurley would want that anyway, but still).
 
upstater said:
The coaches have said otherwise. Both Edsall and Ollie have remarked on this. Maybe it's hard to believe but they have both said it.
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That tells me they were unable and/or unwilling to game the system like every other program. How many players on the Duke Basketball roster would actually qualify (via academic admission standards) without basketball?
 
HawkHusky said:
That tells me they were unable and/or unwilling to game the system like every other program. How many players on the Duke Basketball roster would actually qualify (via academic admission standards) without basketball?
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That's a false equivalency though, as Duke's standards are definitely higher than UCONN's and Memphis's. We're talking about borderline academically eligible kids. Duke rarely even looks at those kids.
 
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intlzncster said:
I think where you might be able to draw a line is sketchy characters. I don't think there's anyone Memphis wouldn't let in. Given our recent NCAA snafu's, I think UCONN would be careful and not push it with a certain type of kid (not that Hurley would want that anyway, but still).
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Agreed.
 
intlzncster said:
That's a false equivalency though, as Duke's standards are definitely higher than UCONN's and Memphis's. We're talking about borderline academically eligible kids. Duke rarely even looks at those kids.
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Duke looks at every 5* kid.
 
SoFla Steve said:
While we need Memphis to recruit successfully to help make the AAC successful, it is also a double-edged sword. Now we have to play against these guys. :eek:
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If we want to be the best we have to play the best. Playing in the old Big East was our proving ground for out of conference play and national level success of the program.

You make a good point with your comment on conference realignment.
 
HawkHusky said:
Duke looks at every 5* kid.
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Not really. They can pick and choose. How many borderline kids have they taken in the past 5 years? I can't think of any offhand.
 
TitleTown said:
That is not even remotely true! UConn will accept any kid that passes the NCAA eligibility center requirements.
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while I will take your word, I don't agree at all and I don't believe that is the issue
The issue is that Memphis and quite a few others will accept many that UConn will not touch
After speaking with a few coaches, including KO, UConn will not take any kid that passes the NCAA eligibility requirements and that has frustrated coaches in Storrs for years
 
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HawkHusky said:
That tells me they were unable and/or unwilling to game the system like every other program. How many players on the Duke Basketball roster would actually qualify (via academic admission standards) without basketball?
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0. Some of the kids they've had might be pretty smart but Duke is really, really hard to get into.
 
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intlzncster said:
That's a false equivalency though, as Duke's standards are definitely higher than UCONN's and Memphis's. We're talking about borderline academically eligible kids. Duke rarely even looks at those kids.
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This is all a mystery. No one really knows. I remember back in 1999 a Pittsburgh newspaper basically called the UConn kids thugs when they beat Duke, and he portrayed the Duke kids as scholars. Elton Brand, William Avery, Corey Maggette, Chris Burgess.

And why were the UConn kids maligned? They were mostly upperclassmen.
 
intlzncster said:
Not really. They can pick and choose. How many borderline kids have they taken in the past 5 years? I can't think of any offhand.
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How would anyone know if the kids are borderline? You can meet the minimum requirements for NCAA eligibility and yet not be able to make it academically at Duke if you're taking the same level courses as the average student there. If they stay only a year or two nobody knows how good or bad they were academically.

Georgetown was a good example of a school that took some real gems. . Victor Page was a great player but only lasted two years purportedly because they ran out of ways to keep him eligible. Same with Michael Graham, the guy who forced the NCAA into coming up with the fighting rule. He played one year and drew blood in two games and was Ewing's protector. Graham took care of anybody that got near Ewing so he could operate freely. They won their only championship that year and Graham was gone after that one year, due to academic eligibility issues according to Wikipedia. They used him, got what they wanted and didn't need him anymore. They're Jesuits: the end justifies the means.
 
Scrutiner said:
How would anyone know if the kids are borderline? You can meet the minimum requirements for NCAA eligibility and yet not be able to make it academically at Duke if you're taking the same level courses as the average student there. If they stay only a year or two nobody knows how good or bad they were academically.

Georgetown was a good example of a school that took some real gems. . Victor Page was a great player but only lasted two years purportedly because they ran out of ways to keep him eligible. Same with Michael Graham, the guy who forced the NCAA into coming up with the fighting rule. He played one year and drew blood in two games and was Ewing's protector. Graham took care of anybody that got near Ewing so he could operate freely. They won their only championship that year and Graham was gone after that one year, due to academic eligibility issues according to Wikipedia. They used him, got what they wanted and didn't need him anymore. They're Jesuits: the end justifies the means.
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You know which kids are borderline while they're in high school. We're not talking about what they do in college...that doesn't matter other than staying out of the NCAAs cross hairs. Everyone but UCONN's grades are fudged.

The kids who are borderline recruits are a struggle to get eligible. Often not cleared til halfway through their first year. Usually need to take extra courses (cause they've gone to diploma mills), retake qualifying exams (with serious preparatory help), and in some cases, get grades fudged.

Duke is different because they pretty much have their pick of the Top 25. They can pick and choose and avoid the 'land mine' kids.
 
intlzncster said:
That's a false equivalency though, as Duke's standards are definitely higher than UCONN's and Memphis's. We're talking about borderline academically eligible kids. Duke rarely even looks at those kids.
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Yeah Duke doesn't look at borderline kids for the general school population but to say Duke doesn't look at borderline after seeing who their basketball and football program have recruited - that's just not true. Nearly every one and done at Duke except for Tatum and maybe Kyrie are not, in my opinion, Duke academic prototype students.
 
gtcam said:
Yeah Duke doesn't look at borderline kids for the general school population but to say Duke doesn't look at borderline after seeing who their basketball and football program have recruited - that's just not true. Nearly every one and done at Duke except for Tatum and maybe Kyrie are not, in my opinion, Duke academic prototype students.
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I'm not saying they are 'Duke equivalent students'. But these are definitively not kids from diploma mills who you are hoping and praying you can get eligible. Duke gets sure things. They are not recruiting Nate Miles type kids.

There's a level where Duke is unwilling in general to look.
 
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