Dive! Dive! Dive!)

[Get a Job]

Well it was sarcastic, but it was implied in the post I was responding to.

So first, you need to understand basic sentences before you declare something a strawman

No, it wasn't. That's exactly the point. @navery12 said there are at least 2 ways to successfully coach. You accused him of claiming that every way of coaching is equally good, and then you implied that such a position is stupid (which of course it is). So you claimed your opponent put forward a premise that he didn't, and then you attacked that premise. This is also known as a strawman.

 

[ucp990411]

I'll yell at another cloud and say it falls in to a broader group of not valuing each possession. UConn gets lead in second half. Jackson gets ball and starts dribbling down court out of control. He somewhat regains possession and immediately tries some sort of one-handed toss down the court for a turnover. UConn D's up and gets ball back and, I think it was Gaffney, makes a horrible pass ahead to Hawkins who couldn't handle it.

Two straight possessions playing with the lead where UConn's defense had held WVU and UConn doesn't even get close to running its offense or getting off a shot.

Possessions matter. Possessions when you have a lead and you stop the opponent are great times to put the foot on the throat. This is a point @superjohn has been hammering home. Players and coaches do a very poor job of closing out the game.

Prior to thos 2 possessions Cole tried an alley oop pass to Jackson from half court that sailed over his head. All this happened when we had a 5 point lead and had them on the ropes. Three bonehead plays that shifted the momemtum of the game.

 

[Kolumbo]

 

[king conn]

Pointing out there is more than one way?

or was it this you said:

Imagine thinking Division 1 basketball players need to be subbed out to be taught that turnovers are bad.

So you did say one way was better than the other. You are full of crap. You are saying that shouldn't even be an option.

Since Jim Calhoun used this approach, which I gave as evidence in my original post that you responded to, how could he not be included in this discussion. Are you really that dense?

Since I am not the one making stuff up and grasping at straws, I would concern yourself with being fragile.

 

[CL82]

Not sure which turnover it was, but the camera showed Hurley burying his head in his hands.

Pretty sure that camera would have showed JC pulling someone's jersey on the bench to get in as a replacement

Lost teaching moments

Get the ball! Get …king ball, you mother f…er!!!

 

[superjohn]

Prior to thos 2 possessions Cole tried an alley oop pass to Jackson from half court that sailed over his head. All this happened when we had a 5 point lead and had them on the ropes. Three bonehead plays that shifted the momemtum of the game.

Cole threw a perfect pass to Jackson for the alleyoop that Jackson didn't catch, terrible play by Jackson. UConn got bailed out by a missed layup and then Gaffney was fouled and goaltended at the 10:06 mark where Hurley took Cole out of the game. Huggins gave Hurley a huge break by calling a timeout at 7:43 and Hurley inexplicably didn't put Cole back in the game. With the lead gone Hurley took a timeout at 6:42 and put Cole back in the game.

Watch "West Virginia vs UConn | 2021.12.8 | NCAAB Game" on YouTube

 

[king conn]

No, it wasn't. That's exactly the point. @navery12 said there are at least 2 ways to successfully coach. You accused him of claiming that every way of coaching is equally good, and then you implied that such a position is stupid (which of course it is). So you claimed your opponent put forward a premise that he didn't, and then you attacked that premise. This is also

No, now you will say mocking but you were trying to be a smart ass with the huddle thing and I called you out for it. And that's the last straw you keep reaching for.

And I will say again that my opinion was very clearly no matter what could have been said in that huddle a substitution would work better. And I gave evidence how it worked for a HOF coach, which left you scrambling for strawman labels that you still are trying to use

Hint: just because you say it 20 times doesn't make it true

 

[king conn]

Or call a timeout for your teaching moment before the steal?

Or how about if the substitution method had been used previously and was successful, and the turnover never happened

 

[king conn]

Answer this

How many points did we lose off of turnovers to trade for one basket? We can't know that number for sure so we can go to

Or

Would that sequence have happened if we had your teaching time out?

And judging from your posts you have no ego, why else would you throw out this ignorance

 

[Edward Sargent]

Not sure which turnover it was, but the camera showed Hurley burying his head in his hands.

Pretty sure that camera would have showed JC pulling someone's jersey on the bench to get in as a replacement

Lost teaching moments

It was that possession

 

[gtcam]

And you have no idea either. Being that DH hasn’t exhibited any actions King Conn referred to - I’m betting there wasn’t much of a fear factor or teaching moment. Probably a pleading moment

 

[coachn]

Agree with Chin we don't dive and don't get 50 50 balls. The other teams want it more.. When I was coaching those players would have their asses on the bench next to me.
Unacceptable and Calhoun example is how you win. Hurley has the players to jerk people..

 

[Chin Diesel]

First half. Loose ball, AJ bends at waist to try and get, Bonnies player dives on the floor. UConn catches a break because Bonnie had foot over end line while on floor, but that was a prime example of opponents wanting it more.

Overall, AJ was great tonight. Rebounding machine and was good transitioning the ball from defensive glass to offense. Kid needs to learn there is more than one gear.