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Message: [QUOTE="Alydar, post: 3537313, member: 730"] I was being in jest but I guess I touched a nerve. My comment goes back over 30 years. I made a lot of money betting against west coast teams (read as PAC12) who came into the men's tournament after playing all season where refs called games very tight and toreador defense was common. So there were always these high-scoring "show time" teams that got into the NCAA's with impressive offensive numbers and couldn't adjust to NCAA as opposed to PAC12 officiating. I would erase all of them in the first 2 rounds every year and rarely regretted it. So I will always think of west coast basketball that way, including the women. Sorry. I am aware that Stanford plays defense and that ASU has that reputation. That's 2 teams over an area about 1/3 of the country. And so one of the only good defensive teams Carrington has faced in conference was ASU. Right? And I've seen UConn play ASU when they rotated 5 in 5 out to wear down opponents. Didn't work. ;) [/QUOTE]