Did Uconn do enough to this off-season?

[Waquoit]

Meaning 60% of his makes occurred in two games this year. He was 6-8 in those games.

So we know how good he can be. Not a fluke, he did it twice.

 

[navery12]

Meaning 60% of his makes occurred in two games this year. He was 6-8 in those games.

Those are also the only 2 games he took more than 2 shots from 3. Trying to draw any kind of conclusion from that small of a sample is a waste

 

[August_West]

I think it's a bit naive to think everyone on the team would be thrilled in both scenarios. Especially the second one where Hurley is actively choosing to recruit over guys who committed to the program twice.

It's one thing to walk up to Jayden Ross and Jaylin Stewart and say one of the best players from last year's team is coming back but we're gonna do X,Y,Z to make it work and get you on the floor for the 1 year overlap. But it's a whole different story to go out and bring in someone brand new to create a minutes issue and tell those guys you don't think they're ready

Yup. There is a whole different vibe of a program player teammate coming back and having minute adjustments all around, as opposed to a mercenary 1 year rental. And in the case of the 4 spot, to stave off the oncoming "what about Cam Spencer"? This is absolutely nothing like Cam Spencer who came in as an experienced guard when our 5 Freshmen hadn't even had a day in the program yet and only one of them was a guard. That was a necessary portal move that made sense for fit and need. That is not so clear cut at the 4 now. The need that spencer addressed last year was glaring. This isn't like that, not with Jaylin Stewart in the wings and a top 10 incoming Frosh.

And then the capper specifically right now is Coleman Hawkins?! Oh boy.

Coleman Hawkins is a fine player. He is very intelligent, and has a pretty unique, strong personality. Coleman Hawkins also brings a circus sideshow with him. He is a locker room lawyer and is very much all about maximizing dollars as his main priority IF he even comes back to college. Hurley both verbally in the media numerous times as well as through his actions (on who he decides to actually get involved with) has shown repeatedly that he does not value playing in that particular arena of the portal. You would be hard pressed to actually find a worse fit for UConn culture than Hawkins. And this isn't a knock on the kid. I like him a lot. He is very well spoken and interesting. He just did an hour with Goodman a week or two ago that everyone should listen to (if you can stomach the Goodman part). It might just open some eyes on how messed up this current system REALLY is. Hawkins certainly has earned the right to take advantage of the gifts he has in any way he sees fit. It won't be for us though. I'm pretty confident in saying that.

 

[Hurleyman216]

We haven't come close to offsetting what we lost. That's not to say the new guys can't make a significant contribution. But you have to recognize how many games might have been lost without the heroics of Newton, Spencer or Clingan. Those three brought the mail for us. Gonna have to work like crazy to step up near that level.

Yeah, but keep in mind we’re 20+ points better than the next best team last year. We can run it back and still beat every good team by 10-15 points even though we won’t be quite as dominant without Clingan

 

[mets1090]

I believe they did enough to obviously be in the conversation for title contending teams this year, and are extremely well positioned to be title contenders in 2026 as well. Mahaney and Reed having two years of eligibility cannot be emphasized enough imo.

 

[HooperScooper]

From the same article I posted above about the sophomores.

“If those guys were on (the 2022-23 team), they would have had bigger roles,” Hurley said. “If they were on teams the years prior, they would have been much more significant players. This year they were in a situation where we were one of the most efficient teams in the last 25 years of college basketball. That is the type of team they couldn’t crack the rotation on.”

 

[HuskyHawk]

Enter: Liam McNeeley.

And probably Stewart. If those two are 3 and 4 respectively, we'll have better shooting at F than the last two seasons.

 

[Rico444]

I really hope so... He was 10-37 from 3 this year. If you take the Depaul and Marquette games he's 4-29. We're all banking on him to improve those #'s a great deal. And I think he will. But, I still would like to have another shooter for that last schollie.

If you take away all the shots he missed he shot 100% from 3.

 

[Iluvsuebird]

I really hope so... He was 10-37 from 3 this year. If you take the Depaul and Marquette games he's 4-29. We're all banking on him to improve those #'s a great deal. And I think he will. But, I still would like to have another shooter for that last schollie.

you hope* that guy is on the roster.

Hurley wasnt even sure this year's team was championship caliber until he saw Cam and Steph in summer camp, but at least we had known commodities in Tristen, AK, and Clingan returning. Next year Diarra and Samson are the only known commodities. Aiden and Tarris are new to the team, Ball/Stew averaged 10 mpg, and McNeeley/Nowell/Abraham are freshmen. None of them are known commodities like Tristen, AK, and Clingan were going into this past year.

are you talking about the 12th or 13th spot? if you're talking about the 12th spot then ross isn't a PF and we cant pencil Abraham in to play 10-15mpg. Those are HUGE minutes that you cant realistically expect a frosh to fill unless they're a borderline 5* or better (castle/liam/nowell).

I see your point, but only as it relates to reliable shooting. A frosh can play those minutes if you expect tough D and rebounds.

 

[Tenspro2002]

I don't understand why people are discounting the possibility of bringing in a high-level PF who can play 20-25 minutes per game if Karaban stays in the draft, instead of just a "developmental" piece.

If Karaban came back, he'd be averaging AT LEAST those minutes (probably more) and would be one of the top 2-3 players on the team. In that scenario, presumably everyone here and on the team would be thrilled.

But to replace Karaban with a like player through the portal would somehow be different? I don't get it. Stewart would be in the same position whether it's Karaban returning or a Karaban-level starter transferred in, but we and he are happy with the former and upset about the latter?

There are two really good PFs still in the portal that are testing the NBA waters but who might return: Coleman Hawkins and Jaylen Wells. I don't see why we wouldn't at least investigate those guys if Karaban leaves. Because it'd be the same difference as far as playing time and roles regardless of which of these three we have next year.

I think the question at this point is "who's left?"

Is it even plausible to grab a starting-caliber player this late in the portal?

 

[Tenspro2002]

I believe they did enough to obviously be in the conversation for title contending teams this year, and are extremely well positioned to be title contenders in 2026 as well. Mahaney and Reed having two years of eligibility cannot be emphasized enough imo.

I agree that we're looking at the possibility of very strong years in 2025 or 2026 at the very least.

We know that Johnson, Karaban, and Diarra will be gone after 2025 (if not sooner in Karaban's case, but my gut is he runs it back and graduates in 3.5 years), but that's pretty much it.

Our 2026 depth chart is looking like:

Nowell (Soph)
Mahaney (Senior)/Ball (Junior)
McNeeley (Soph)/Ross (Junior)
Stewart (Junior)/Abraham (Sophomore)
Reed (Senior)

plus whatever freshmen or transfers we bring in. That's basically the floor of our roster, unless any of the aforementioned guys have incredible years worthy of leaving early.

And if any of Mahaney, McNeeley, Ball, Stewart, or Reed are balling out to the point that they would consider leaving early, that would mean our 2025 season had to go very well.

 

[3rdbass]

I agree that we're looking at the possibility of very strong years in 2025 or 2026 at the very least.

We know that Johnson, Karaban, and Diarra will be gone after 2025 (if not sooner in Karaban's case, but my gut is he runs it back and graduates in 3.5 years), but that's pretty much it.

Our 2026 depth chart is looking like:

Nowell (Soph)
Mahaney (Senior)/Ball (Junior)
McNeeley (Soph)/Ross (Junior)
Stewart (Junior)/Abraham (Sophomore)
Reed (Senior)

plus whatever freshmen or transfers we bring in. That's basically the floor of our roster, unless any of the aforementioned guys have incredible years worthy of leaving early.

And if any of Mahaney, McNeeley, Ball, Stewart, or Reed are balling out to the point that they would consider leaving early, that would mean our 2025 season had to go very well.

Pretty sure McNeeley is one and done so I wouldn't count him in 2026. He might come back but if he is as good as advertised he will be gone after one year.

 

[uconnfan68]

I think he's more than capable of playing the 4 just like Karaban did. Karaban was listed at 6'7 190 in high school and McNeeley is listed as 6'7 210. The 3 and the 4 are pretty interchangeable so I feel like he'd be fine at either spot

3 and 4 interchangeable? Didn’t we have lots of angst here about AK not being able to defend big strong 4s? We need a big strong 4 more than ever without DC (and AK).

 

[3rdbass]

3 and 4 interchangeable? Didn’t we have lots of angst here about AK not being able to defend big strong 4s? We need a big strong 4 more than ever without DC (and AK).

If AK doesn't come back it might just be Stewart with Abraham backing him up. BIg strong 4s are a dying breed in College and even the pro game. That doesn't win games normally as you need stretch 4s. Not sure who we will get this late in the cycle if Karaban decides to stay in the draft.

 

[bendm]

Nowell (Soph)
Mahaney (Senior)/Ball (Junior)
McNeeley (Soph)/Ross (Junior)
Stewart (Junior)/Abraham (Sophomore)
Reed (Senior)/Singare (Junior)

4peat

 

[bendm]

Abraham with his defense can easily step in and play 10 minutes a game, the offense might be a work in progress but the defense is going to be there from day 1

I see your point, but only as it relates to reliable shooting. A frosh can play those minutes if you expect tough D and rebounds.

fair points. Abraham's highlight reel is nothing but dunks and wide open 3s but that's all he'll be asked to do on offense. if he can be a 3&D guy that gets out in transition then that could work for 10mpg.

 

[navery12]

3 and 4 interchangeable? Didn’t we have lots of angst here about AK not being able to defend big strong 4s? We need a big strong 4 more than ever without DC (and AK).

People who are stuck in the 1980s may have had angst about that, but that was never a valid concern and it won't be this year either

 

[August_West]

People who are stuck in the 1980s may have had angst about that, but that was never a valid concern and it won't be this year either

We won a title with Phil Nolan at the 5 and DeAndre Daniels at the 4.

 

[superjohn]

I thought after we lost Hawkins, Jackson and Sanogo after the 2023 title that we would struggle to replace them and/or get better. Then we put together the most dominant college team of the modern era.

So, yeah, it’s going hard to replace the 4 or 5 guys who are leaving for the NBA, but at this point I have full trust that the staff did what they get they needed to do in order to put us on the stairway to seven…

I think it’s fair to expect a squad with a similar ceiling to the 2023 squad.

FTFY

 

[Karmacop]

If you don't know why we wouldn't investigate Coleman Hawkins, I don't know what to tell you. It's like people don't even pay attention to what Hurley says and does.

I was just using him as one example of a talented PF still available in the portal. If you want to cross him off for whatever, fine. But there are other starter-level PFs still in the portal, or at least some that probably qualify as more than "developmental", such as Jaylen Wells. That's my main point.

I think we shouldn't just immediately jump to "deep bench" if Karaban leaves, in the hope that Stewart can fill those shoes. He might, but he might not. And if he doesn't do so next year, we're going to need someone in the PF position more talented that "developmental" if we want to three-peat. I agree that if we do bring in a starter-level PF, it would ideally be someone with only one year of eligibility left so that Stewart isn't "blocked" for more than one year (which actually is a strike against Wells, who is a junior).

Here's On3's lists of still available PFs and SFs by rank, just so we can all review who is still recruitable through the portal (I included SFs because there are some on that like like Wells that are 6'8 that might provide some stretch four minutes like Karaban did):

Available PFs
Available SFs

 

[bendm]

We won a title with Phil Nolan at the 5 and DeAndre Daniels at the 4.

cmon, daniels was 6'9 and averaged 1.5 blocks/game. if he was our returning PF no one would be worried at all.

 

[navery12]

cmon, daniels was 6'9 and averaged 1.5 blocks/game. if he was our returning PF no one would be worried at all.

Yet the majority of this board was in a panic and didn't want to accept Daniels playing the 4 spot even during the championship season. I'm also not sure why you keep bringing up blocks, that's like the 15th thing we'd be looking for from the 4 spot

 

[August_West]

cmon, daniels was 6'9 and averaged 1.5 blocks/game. if he was our returning PF no one would be worried at all.

But he wasnt a "power" forward is the point. Nor was he a prolific rebounder averaging 4.6 a year. Although he did average 6 his junior year which is better than the 5.1 Karaban averaged this year, but metsfan above said we are short on rebounding sans Karaban.

And lets be honest. You are thinking about Junior Deandre, but you wouldve been worried about sophmore Deandre if he was the returning power forward, which is the point isnt it? Deandre got better from one year to the next, so why can't our guys here now do the same?

 

[FearThePups]

If AK doesn't come back it might just be Stewart with Abraham backing him up. BIg strong 4s are a dying breed in College and even the pro game. That doesn't win games normally as you need stretch 4s. Not sure who we will get this late in the cycle if Karaban decides to stay in the draft.

We’d need a clone of Karl Malone in his prime.

 

[uconnfan68]

People who are stuck in the 1980s may have had angst about that, but that was never a valid concern and it won't be this year either

I’m stuck in the 60s.

 

[huskyharry]

I was just using him as one example of a talented PF still available in the portal. If you want to cross him off for whatever, fine. But there are other starter-level PFs still in the portal, or at least some that probably qualify as more than "developmental", such as Jaylen Wells. That's my main point.

I think we shouldn't just immediately jump to "deep bench" if Karaban leaves, in the hope that Stewart can fill those shoes. He might, but he might not. And if he doesn't do so next year, we're going to need someone in the PF position more talented that "developmental" if we want to three-peat. I agree that if we do bring in a starter-level PF, it would ideally be someone with only one year of eligibility left so that Stewart isn't "blocked" for more than one year (which actually is a strike against Wells, who is a junior).

Here's On3's lists of still available PFs and SFs by rank, just so we can all review who is still recruitable through the portal (I included SFs because there are some on that like like Wells that are 6'8 that might provide some stretch four minutes like Karaban did):

Available PFs
Available SFs

thanks for the links!

 

[TheChamps990411]

just enjoy the ride of the 2024-2025 season with slightly lower expectations. This upcoming team will do very well, I am sure of it.

Thats what i did with the 2023-2024 season. Ill do the same next season and as far as im concerned its all gravy. We have just won BACK 2 BACK TITLES!!! Thats insane to me. I believe we will be a top 10 team all season and will win 30+ games. Even if we dont get the 3peat i am going to enjoy every second of it. If we 3peat and its a possibility im not sure what ill do lol!

 

[speckle]

It's been fun to watch Calipari and Scheyer chasing veterans to bring some experience to their teams. Scheyer has lost 9 guys from this year's team and picked up two vets from Purdue and Syracuse to add to the five 5 stars and one 4 star recruit. Maybe K told him he's embarrassing himself if he doesn't start to show results from all the high powered recruits.

If you're Scheyer, are you picking up a call from K after losing 9 guys? I'd pay real dollars to listen in on the line lol.

 

[McLovin]

FTFY

Most dominant title team, probably, yes. But 2012 Kentucky (champions) and 2015 Kentucky (only1 loss, in the Final Four) are 2 teams this century I'd put up there in that realm with our 2024 team.

 

[speckle]

People said that about Joey California too. These assumptions that our coach has no intention of filling Karaban's roster spot with a competent player are beyond bizarre. Our recruiting prowess has never been better than it is now, but let's not even try to find someone who can help us do something legendary. It makes no sense.

Kinda harsh, but I do agree. Losing AK would open up real minutes.