Did Ross get truly de-sneakered or was it a double dribble?

[Mr. French]

Both hands clearly on ball here before putting it back on the floor. This was immediately after the ball bounced upward. So if his left hand wasn’t on the ball, the ball would be on the floor.

What does the word “clearly” mean to you? Genuine question. Nothing about that screen shots shows both hands “clearly on the ball”

 

[superjohn]

Whether it should be legal is up for debate, but it's a clean move and one that is used by a lot of players. Very few in college though because it's a tough one to pull off without actually double dribbling like Lindsay did

That's why any players and any fans who say the players today are a million times more skilled than players of the past look so silly. When I was a kid his move was an obvious violation that would be called every time even though his other hand didn't touch the ball, today it's just a legal great move.

 

[Sgt.Peps6x]

What does the word “clearly” mean to you? Genuine question. Nothing about that screen shots shows both hands “clearly on the ball”

Fair question. In this context, I mean clearly as in logically clear, not visually clear. If the ball had just bounced upward into his right hand and was on its way bouncing back down, the only thing stopping it from continuing downward would be his left hand. While I agree the screenshot is not clear, his hand appears to be underneath the ball, which answers the question as to what would prevent the ball from continuing to travel downward. I hope that’s more clear as to what I mean lol

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

Both hands clearly on ball here before putting it back on the floor. This was immediately after the ball bounced upward. So if his left hand wasn’t on the ball, the ball would be on the floor.

I don't think that's clear at all. It was an inside out dribble with his right hand and the whole point is that he moves his left hand close enough to the ball that it looks like he's going to pull up. It's a bang bang play and hard to officiate but I don't think that's a double dribble.

 

[Mr. French]

I don't think that's clear at all. It was an inside out dribble with his right hand and the whole point is that he moves his left hand close enough to the ball that it looks like he's going to pull up. It's a bang bang play and hard to officiate but I don't think that's a double dribble.

Yeah, I don't think he does touch the ball, which is why it's definitely not clear and precisely why it's a good move.

 

[Dibbie]

When I watched it live I called double dribble in the chat and sticking with that opinion.

 

[Class of 09]

Got hesied out of his damn socks, carry or not.

 

[caw]

This move has been floating around for awhile now, it's hard to perfect without touching with the second hand, lots of people do when they try, but is doable. Bad angle to tell if it's a double dribble here, or not. I'd say he didn't, and if he did it was a fingernail.

 

[Mr. French]

I commented earlier but apparently it got deleted - Karaban got shaken by the same move today by Jones, it just wasn't as exaggerated as the one Lindsay did.