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cabbie191 said:
I agree with you LV9. I was thinking that quite possibly she is trying to make the best of an unexpectedly bad situation she unexpectedly found herself in and is trying to avoid hurting someone else. But I doubt it would be Hatchell given her relative absence from the team during the year.

I remember that harsh reaction many on this board had about Delle Donne's decision, and when we understood what the true motivation was, I believe most of us were eventually supportive of her heading back to Delaware. It may very well be that if and when folks ever come to understand DeShield's reasons, we may have the same compassion.
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great example with EDD. there is always more to the story than we know. i just want these kids to be happy.
 
HGN said:
I second your thoughts Doggy..Interesting article though. But I have a question. Does she have to name a school , attend that school , and then sit out a year ; or can she just sit out a year and make a final choice of school's the following year?
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According to NCAA rules, a transferring student must spend a year "in residence" at the school she intends to play at. Simply sitting out a year does not meet this requirement and would result in the student/athlete having to "red-shirt" another year and lose a year of eligibility with regard to the five to play four alprovision. I suppose the student/athlete could petition the NCAA for a sixth year, but, absent a compelling reason, such as a significant health problem, I seriously doubt that would be successful.

Jim
 
It could be DD cannot articulate the factors that constitute an unhappy stew for her and have her moving on. It does not feel right, she is moving on. That should be enough.
 
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LadyVols9 said:
great example with EDD. there is always more to the story than we know. i just want these kids to be happy.
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It's not even close to the same. EDD transferred without playing a minute for Uconn. She didn't recruit several other players to join her at Uconn.

We all knew how close she was/is to her sister. We have no idea why DD is leaving UNC.

I don't see any similarities.
 
Also EDD literally went home, a school in the town where her family lives.
 
EDD and DD both left top programs after seeing the school wasn't for them. yes, how and when they are different but each player made a tough decision knowing their departure would be controversial. not to mention that they are both uber talented players which makes the issue even more noteworthy.

their exits have similarities but no they are not identical.
 
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LadyVols9 said:
EDD and DD both left top programs after seeing the school wasn't for them. yes, how and when they are different but each player made a tough decision knowing their departure would be controversial. not to mention that they are both uber talented players which makes the issue even more noteworthy.

their exits have similarities but no they are not identical.
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I see zero similarities in their exits. One left after 48 hours, the other is leaving after 48 weeks. The reasons, as far as we know, do not appear to be remotely similar.
 
MilfordHusky said:
...there were non-basketball factors...I'm not convinced that the amorphous issues that she ran into won't recur elsewhere.
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So, basically, you're saying, no matter where she runs, Morpheus will still find her?!?:eek:
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LadyVols9 said:
EDD and DD both left top programs after seeing the school wasn't for them. yes, how and when they are different but each player made a tough decision knowing their departure would be controversial. not to mention that they are both uber talented players which makes the issue even more noteworthy.

their exits have similarities but no they are not identical.
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No, no similarities. One was running to something (EDD's love of her physically and emotionally challenged sister), the other seems from reports to be leaving something. What is not clear and it is not our business.
 
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The words "same" and "similar" versus "identical" are similar but not identical. Apples and oranges are the same in that they are both fruits but they aren't identical.

I would consider EDD's and DD's circumstances similar to the extent that both are heralded players who left major programs very abruptly.

But as Icebear and others have noted, the reasons behind this similarity appear to be divergent, and I like how he puts it - EDD running to something, DD appearinig to be leaving from something.
 
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triaddukefan said:
Heck... after she torched Duke for 30 in Cameron..... I felt that her choice for UNC was the wrong one as well :oops:
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Perhaps it is your choice of team for which to root is the wrong one.:rolleyes:
 
Joe6cats said:
Seems like the more we hear, the less we know. Mom assures us that there are compelling reasons for Diamond's transfer, but neither she nor anyone else has yet given a clue what they might be. Square pegs - round holes is kind of abstract. One certainly wishes this talented young woman and her family all the best, but so far this wcbb post-season seems like a pilot for "WCBB - The Soap Opera", a series made for ESPN.
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Really! I'm rather enjoying every bit of this saga. To speak is above all to posess the political power to speak. We are (I am, that is) learning how to do things with words; how to speak about things, but never saying what others want you to say- giving anything away. Will we at some point have heard enough and scream 'no more, please'. Maybe at summer end when we have the father's rendition of the 'Event'.
Wouldn't it be interesting if we are witnessing another EDD happening. Why not pick a little unranked school in the AAC and make them a contender!
 
Joe6cats said:
Seems like the more we hear, the less we know. Mom assures us that there are compelling reasons for Diamond's transfer, but neither she nor anyone else has yet given a clue what they might be. Square pegs - round holes is kind of abstract. One certainly wishes this talented young woman and her family all the best, but so far this wcbb post-season seems like a pilot for "WCBB - The Soap Opera", a series made for ESPN.
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Really! I'm rather enjoying every bit of this saga. To speak is above all to posess the political power to speak. We are (I am, that is) learning how to do things with words; how to speak about things, but never saying what others want you to say- giving anything away. Will we at some point have heard enough and scream 'no more, please'. Maybe at summer end when we have the father's rendition of the 'Event'.
Wouldn't it be interesting if we are witnessing another EDD happening. Why not pick a little unranked school in the AAC and make them a contender!
 
hjoerring said:
Really! I'm rather enjoying every bit of this saga. To speak is above all to posess the political power to speak. We are (I am, that is) learning how to do things with words; how to speak about things, but never saying what others want you to say- giving anything away. Will we at some point have heard enough and scream 'no more, please'. Maybe at summer end when we have the father's rendition of the 'Event'.
Wouldn't it be interesting if we are witnessing another EDD happening. Why not pick a little unranked school in the AAC and make them a contender!
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DD doesn't strike me as the type to do that. It could be anything - a falling out with a teammate, a romance gone bad, a desire to attend school in a bigger city. Who knows?
 
Nobody knows what she is feeling and maybe, she was trying to please too many people and not herself.....Hopefully, she finds peace with herself and an move on to a much better place.......God Bless her and give her strength...
 
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jsloanjr said:
Nobody knows what she is feeling and maybe, she was trying to please too many people and not herself.....Hopefully, she finds peace with herself and an move on to a much better place..God Bless her and give her strength...
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When it's all said and done, if you don't make yourself happy, you won't make anyone else happy.
 
It's a long thread (series of threads), has anyone considered that Diamond might have realized that for her to reach her true potential requires a level of coaching generally not considered available at NC.

In that case her choices come down to Louisville, ND, Stanford, UConn and a very few others.

I would not be surprised if that outcome materializes.
 
Regardless of what we all think.. It takes courage and maturity for her to decide something this big and then have some sort of backlash that she is spoiled and selfish.. Not everyone makes the "right" decision early on in life.. I am glad her mother is helping her by speaking.. Maybe she needs a coach with a strong personality (Geno) that values her talent but pushes her too maximize her potential (Rizzoti, Lobo, Bird, Charles, Moore, Lewis, Stewie).. I do hope she transfer to UCONN because I think she will fit in nicely..
 
cohenzone said:
The Muffett line was just poking fun at the recent MM vs GA nonsense. What really offends me is that with the exception of Maya Moore, nobody but Mickey Mantle deserves to be know simply as MM, with apologies to Marilyn Minroe and Mickey and Minnie.
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Sorry to jog OT, but this post brought back memories of standing in the Innsbruck train
station in Aug 1962 looking at the newspaper headline in large letters that covered the
entire front page:

MM
TOT

I doubt that there are many folks in Austria who ever heard of Mickey Mantle or
even Maya Moore, but MM was an international phenomenon back in her day.
 
chocher said:
Regardless of what we all think.. It takes courage and maturity for her to decide something this big and then have some sort of backlash that she is spoiled and selfish.. Not everyone makes the "right" decision early on in life.. I am glad her mother is helping her by speaking.. Maybe she needs a coach with a strong personality (Geno) that values her talent but pushes her too maximize her potential (Rizzoti, Lobo, Bird, Charles, Moore, Lewis, Stewie).. I do hope she transfer to UCONN because I think she will fit in nicely..
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Elaborating your reasons for her being fitting in...There might be other teams that she fits in even better.
 
With the exception of UNC.. ;) I watched the UNC games and she is not afraid to take the big shots and can take over a game.. she is willing to share the ball to make her teammates better.. Family environment here at UCONN as per her/moms post (missing her family). Coaches can guide her without her losing herself.. Her ego gets checked at the door because that is the UCONN way.. and again.. having Geno who not only cares for his players but is not afraid to let his feelings be known of what they didn't do on the court.. IDK.. Just a feeling of watching her play.. I just think Geno's coaching style will be good for her..
 
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I just read the article finally and was very impressed with what her mother had to say. Laid no blame at the feet of UNC and rightfully didn't go into any specific criticisms. Pointed out that her daughter is only 18, after all, and realized during her time there that it was not right for her . Honestly, I don't think anyone has a right to expect further specifics. I applaud the family for taking the high road, as much as possible, when your kid is the best player on the team she's leaving.

I'm a little surprised at the amount of parsing, dissecting, and "reading into" the comments made by the mom. She obviously loves her daughter, did not sound like she had a speech prepared by an expert, and probably was quoted answering questions to a reporter. Had nothing but nice things to say about Hatchell too, as her fight with Leukemia is much larger than where a star player goes to college.
 
ericsandiego said:
I just read the article finally and was very impressed with what her mother had to say. Laid no blame at the feet of UNC and rightfully didn't go into any specific criticisms. Pointed out that her daughter is only 18, after all, and realized during her time there that it was not right for her . Honestly, I don't think anyone has a right to expect further specifics. I applaud the family for taking the high road, as much as possible, when your kid is the best player on the team she's leaving.

I'm a little surprised at the amount of parsing, dissecting, and "reading into" the comments made by the mom. She obviously loves her daughter, did not sound like she had a speech prepared by an expert, and probably was quoted answering questions to a reporter. Had nothing but nice things to say about Hatchell too, as her fight with Leukemia is much larger than where a star player goes to college.
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You are surprised?
 
ericsandiego said:
I just read the article finally and was very impressed with what her mother had to say. Laid no blame at the feet of UNC and rightfully didn't go into any specific criticisms. Pointed out that her daughter is only 18, after all, and realized during her time there that it was not right for her . Honestly, I don't think anyone has a right to expect further specifics. I applaud the family for taking the high road, as much as possible, when your kid is the best player on the team she's leaving.

I'm a little surprised at the amount of parsing, dissecting, and "reading into" the comments made by the mom. She obviously loves her daughter, did not sound like she had a speech prepared by an expert, and probably was quoted answering questions to a reporter. Had nothing but nice things to say about Hatchell too, as her fight with Leukemia is much larger than where a star player goes to college.
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Nah, the Boneyard is famous for it.
 
I truly wish DD all the happiness in the world wherever, or whatever she chooses. As her mother said, college should be the best time of her life. We do not know what made her unhappy at UNC. Was it basketball, or something else ?

She was really the main person to get that freshman class to come to UNC. You could tell it was her team. So it seems to me she had what she wanted on the basketball court. So, could it have been something else ?

It is all speculation now. It just seems so wrong for an 18 year old to have to go through all this pressure. We may never know what her reasons were for leaving UNC, and that is perfectly fine to me. I just hope she finds what she is looking for.
 
doggydaddy said:
You are surprised?
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Yes, to a degree, but probably more disappointed.
intlzncster said:
Nah, the Boneyard is famous for it.
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Then I find that unfortunate and am reminded of Huskynan's opinion that the BY is in danger of becoming The Summitt.

I get criticizing a player (or parent) when they make egregious, over the top, or semi-crazy comments, but to try to divine what a loving mother "really" meant or criticize her (or DD at this point) is just bad form. I agree with Rocky 100%. Also with Cat's and Ice's comments. She's said her peace for now, and the rest is none of our business.
RockyMTblue2 said:
It could be DD cannot articulate the factors that constitute an unhappy stew for her and have her moving on. It does not feel right, she is moving on. That should be enough.
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There is simply nothing to suggest that Diamond did anything wrong, and her mom was the epitome of class in avoiding criticism of a Cancer victim while expressing her young daughter's desire for a better place. Unless we hear something different from DD or her family, that should be enough.

I totally get fans being disappointed. UNC fans especially. It's the criticism of this situation, and how the Deshields family has handled it, that I don't get.
 
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ericsandiego said:
Then I find that unfortunate and am reminded of Huskynan's opinion that the BY is in danger of becoming The Summitt.
I get criticizing a player (or parent) when they make egregious, over the top, or semi-crazy comments, but to try to divine what a loving mother "really" meant or criticize her (or DD at this point) is just bad form. I agree with Rocky 100%. Also with Cat's and Ice's comments. She's said her peace for now, and the rest is none of our business.
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Yeah, I wasn't condoning it, just saying that's how it is. I actually don't think, outside of involving a great player, that this whole thing is a big deal at all. In fact, if I was forced to make a judgement, I'd say that the EDD and Walker transfers were more difficult situations for the team involved. Diamond, though probably unhappy most of the year, stuck it out and busted her tail for the whole season. Didn't leave anyone in a lurch. JMO
 
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