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[RedStickHusky]

One of those wins was against our arch rival Rutgers and they would have been 7-5 had they beaten us. That was a big win against a quality opponent trying to become bowl eligible. Not picking on you, everybody is downplaying that win for some reason. This board makes up its own facts sometimes.

Rutgers not a big win. OK folks, whatever you say.

Rutgers was a good win. Plus, they're Rutgers. Plus, as HCRE used to say, you only get 12 or 13 chances to win a game in a season -- they're all big.

 

[sdhusky]

Well, considering Whitmer lost to Towsen and Buffalo, it's kinda a push talent wise for opponents.

Diaco specifically said turnovers put your butt on the bench. That's been Whitmer's downfall.

I like Casey and want him to start.

But Whitmer had to play behind a GDL line and a PP game plan. Joe Namath would struggle with 'ers

 

[Hoophound]

One of those wins was against our arch rival Rutgers and they would have been 7-5 had they beaten us. That was a big win against a quality opponent. Not picking on you, everybody is downplaying that win for some reason. This board makes up its own facts sometimes. Rutgers not a big win. OK folks, whatever you say.

I totally agree. I'm throwing the naysayers that bone. Good, bad, mediocre opponents,no matter, Casey won 3 games. UConn won three games. Nobody else could win a game and frankly, no one else looked anywhere near as good. Casey moved the ball and took care of it. He doesn't have a lot of velocity on the ball and that's why people question him. The thing is, he puts the ball exactly where he intends to over and over again. His accuracy negates that "problem". Further, he sees the field much faster than the other guys do. If someone else starts, that's fine with me. I hope that guy does great and wins a lot of games. But, if he doesn't I'll be wondering why we sat the guy that ended last year on a 3 game win streak and did it with huge numbers. It seems like a much better gamble to leave Casey in and see if he keeps rolling than it does to start over and then have to bring him in weeks later if the new guy fails. I want to beat BYU, not see what Chandler can do and hope we beat them. All this said, I understand that coach is bringing in his system and his coaches and he is going to do what he sees fit. I don't have a problem with it, I just hope he agrees with me on this issue because I like Casey.

 

[Jerry27]

That doesn't make sense. They could have said the same thing about Cochran, who had 12 more games experience. If what they say about Cochran is true (Cochran is a better game QB than practice QB), Boyle beat him out. I think the plan to eventually start Boyle was afoot before the Michigan game, but Buffalo cemented it. They never planned (stupidly) to redshirt Boyle.

I think if memory serves, a certain players father pointed out that the decision to play the local prototype kid was decided before the season started and he got cruxcified for suggesting it. The "competition" for the position never happened. If Chandler couldn't get it going Boyle was coming in at some point.

All in the past, if production and minimizing turnovers truly matter Casey will be the starter, if HCBD can't see it, well...

 

[jdb50]

Oh my - if Casey isnt named the starting QB many on this board are going to implode and explode! (It will be fun to watch and become an instant classic - BY material for years to come!) I want what is best for UConn FB but half of me wants HCBD to choose Whitmer -

We pay an experienced football coach good money - let the man make the call and live with the decision.

GO TEAM!!

Listen, I want to win in week one and every game after that. I am sick of losing and being ridiculed Nationally. Whoever Coach Diaco starts I will be cheering him on. If I had to pick one guy who would improve the most in the off season from a physical standpoint it is Boyle. But based on decision making and production in the crap show of last year Casey performed. I expect him to win the battle in camp. His father was always successful and he has taken that in and learned from it. Nobody gave those last 3 wins to him or us last year

 

[UConnDan97]

I don't think there is anyone on the board who would be upset if Casey is named the starter. Literally, I don't think there is even one person. But there is going to be a new philosophy, with a new line, a new OC, and a new HC. And all of that is going to play into the decision of who starts the first game. At risk of sounding like a homer, In Diaco I Trust...

 

[Chin Diesel]

My other concern about Whitmer is the concussions. Thanks to the offensive offensive schemes of the previous regime, he is, through no fault of his own, one small hit away. The aformentioned Denny's frequent customers increased his vulnerability to contact that occurs on every play.

 

[Stinger92860]

Well, considering Whitmer lost to Towsen and Buffalo, it's kinda a push talent wise for opponents.

Diaco specifically said turnovers put your butt on the bench. That's been Whitmer's downfall.

You have have to give some credit to the defense and coaching staff for those 2 losses. Whitmer's stat line was not bad against Towson, but you would expect more against an fcs opponent. 74 points given up and double digit total sacks in 2 games. Lots of blame to go around, but the root cause was Ppgdl.

 

[Husky25]

I think if memory serves, a certain players father pointed out that the decision to play the local prototype kid was decided before the season started and he got cruxcified for suggesting it. The "competition" for the position never happened. If Chandler couldn't get it going Boyle was coming in at some point.

All in the past, if production and minimizing turnovers truly matter Casey will be the starter, if HCBD can't see it, well...

I reject that on principal.

If I recall correctly, a Certain Player's father seemed hacked that a Certain Player was hacked off that a Certain Player was not the only recruit at a Certain Player's position in a given year. I got the impression after a while that a Certain Player was under his own impression that he would walk on campus and start as a true freshman at lil' ol' poor UConn.

Politics and favoritism occur in every walk of life, which influences "competition." One creates their own opportunity through action. A Certain Player made a decision. He was not forced off the team. For whatever reason, he left on his own accord.

 

[Stinger92860]

I reject that on principal.

If I recall correctly, a Certain Player's father seemed hacked that a Certain Player was hacked off that a Certain Player was not the only recruit at a Certain Player's position in a given year. I got the impression after a while that a Certain Player was under his own impression that he would walk on campus and start as a true freshman at lil' ol' poor UConn.

Politics and favoritism occur in every walk of life, which influences "competition." One creates their own opportunity through action. A Certain Player made a decision. He was not forced off the team. For whatever reason, he left on his own accord.

I will always wonder if a certain player played because a certain HC wanted to burn a redshirt and make it less likely a certain player would transfer. Or I could be wearing a tin foil cap.

 

[J187Money]

Anyone that has worked in any job that has to deal with any media knows that what gets said publicly has very little to do with what goes on behind the scenes.

I know it is the silly season but let's not try to take anything that is said too seriously.

 

[tjhusky]

Here is my depth chart behind the depth chart.
HCBD - A proven winner who has made good on his promises over the last 7 months:

• Hired a top staff in two weeks.
• Marshaled that staff so that in 2 months lock in existing recruits and bring in new ones.
• Bring in a top SC coach and begin the process of physically and mentally turning this program around.
• Recruit "his" type of player for 2015. Big, strong, smart, leaders who can't wait to play for him.

Key coaching support:

• Patterson - the Mentor. BD completely trusts him. Head coaching experience. A great person to bounce ideas off of.
• Foley - the Bridge. Great OL coach. Knows the team can teach and is the key to getting our inexperienced OL working together early in the season.

This is not just another coaching change. This staff is already making a difference for the team, and the media.

Draw a straight line from 12/19/2013 to Jan 2015 and I think we will see the BD trend continue and bring the next level of exciting competitive football to UCONN that we have all been waiting for.

 

[Jerry27]

I reject that on principal.

If I recall correctly, a Certain Player's father seemed hacked that a Certain Player was hacked off that a Certain Player was not the only recruit at a Certain Player's position in a given year. I got the impression after a while that a Certain Player was under his own impression that he would walk on campus and start as a true freshman at lil' ol' poor UConn.

Politics and favoritism occur in every walk of life, which influences "competition." One creates their own opportunity through action. A Certain Player made a decision. He was not forced off the team. For whatever reason, he left on his own accord.

That was part of the recruiting process, and I still believe that the multiple qb's played a big part, but when you are told they are taking one and three sign it would piss anyone off. He stuck until it was clear the pecking order was predetermined. Which is what I was referring to, but thanks for wearing your heart on your sleeve, it wasn't even close to what he thought but whatever makes you feel better. Funny how it played out exactly as he claimed and it's still called out as bs.

I rewatched the Rutgers game last night, if Casey doesn't start they better be right about who does.

 

[Husky25]

That was part of the recruiting process.

Your post would have been better served if you stopped right here.

No doubt that the recruiting process (as I understand it) s.u.c.k.s. but it is what it is. It's a fluid process and needs change. I couldn't care much less if a player withholds his commitment. That is his right, and frankly, his rights more or less end once he presses the green button on the fax machine.



The fact remains that there is politics and favoritism everywhere and in this particular case, it clashed with (what I perceived was) a sense of entitlement. I believe there were a couple of other things a play as well. The family may have been able to read between the lines and sensed the discontent with the former regime and conclude they were not going to be there much longer. With that, they could have determined the uncertainty was too great (Does the AD bring in a Spread coach?). They could have also used that to their advantage (i.e. Let the local kids fall on their face with the outgoing regime and redshirt. Then shine for the new staff with all 4 years of eligibility). Who knows, but at the end of the day, it doesn't matter.

Regarding the team we have today, I am unsure what skill sets Whitmer has that Casey doesn't. They are both 6 foot pocket passers, but Cochran may have a little more mobility (and by a little, I mean the slightest hair). I think they should make every attempt to redshirt Boyle. Not only for the good of the team but for his own development. I am hoping against hope that he was not broken by those 4 games last year. In the end I will be on the 30 yard line (press box side, nearest the video board) applauding the team on the field, admittedly with higher expectations than I should have.

 

[huskymedic]

@EdDaigneault: Diaco says Michael Boland has been moved from tight end to DE.

@NHRJimFuller: Michael Boland, who worked out at tight end during his redshirt season, is moving to DE for #UConn

@elsctpost: Interesting. Diaco had St. Joseph OL Steve Hashemi working at tight end Saturday

 

[CTMike]

The Boyle fiasco lands squarely at Warde's feet. that was a ticket sales decision. And it was bad for the kid, bad for the team and may well have blown a redshirt year. No way on this earth was Boyle ready to step onto a college football field in game conditions. That little experiment was just a waste for everyone involved. Cochran, as jdb50 points out, came in and produced touchdowns, a couple with very sweet plays, late in some games. Even though it was with the B-squad agaisnt B-squad, he just looked far more competent. I thought he looked nervous early against SMU, but settled down after that and delivered the rest of the way until the late pick 6 which happened in desperation time. he got us back in it, but the killer was Wagner's 14 yard punt from deep in our end.

I just want to add here that I was not a Cochran fan in the least. I saw him a couple of times in high school and was unimpressed, saw him in the blue-white games and they confirmed my original thinking. I thought he was there soley to please the high School coaches. But in the games he played, you could just see the whole team play better when he took the field. he made plays, he stepped up when he should have, he knew what he was doing. He showed confidence and leadership even when it was in blow outs. Had he played rather than Boyle, I think we had at least 1, maybe 2 more Ws. No guarantees for sure, but he was that much better.

Of all your insane conspiracies, this may take the cake.

"Paul, I know you are struggling, and you are fighting to keep your job. You probably want the best guy to play BUT I'm going to step in and overrule you here, you are going to play Boyle, we need butts in seats. He's a local kid. What's that? Casey is too? No... You are still going to play Boyle. Butts in seats." - Warde Manuel, according to freescooter.

Rinse and repeat for TJW. Just mind boggling.

 

[ZOOCONN]

Really makes you wonder what kind of S&C program went on before Balis. Twinkee lifts? Nap times? I'm excited to see the difference in 2nd half of games. There were too many games for my liking that our D was noticeably gassed by the end of the 3rd Q of games under the old regime.

Could not agree more, the 4th quarter was hard enough to watch with them constantly trailing but seeing the obvious conditioning gap made it that much worse.

 

[ShakyTheMohel]

Of all your insane conspiracies, this may take the cake.

"Paul, I know you are struggling, and you are fighting to keep your job. You probably want the best guy to play BUT I'm going to step in and overrule you here, you are going to play Boyle, we need butts in seats. He's a local kid. What's that? Casey is too? No... You are still going to play Boyle. Butts in seats." - Warde Manuel, according to freescooter.

Rinse and repeat for TJW. Just mind boggling.

I had said the same thing. You really have to hate WM to come up with that one.

 

[metsfan2323]

@EdDaigneault: Diaco says Michael Boland has been moved from tight end to DE.

@NHRJimFuller: Michael Boland, who worked out at tight end during his redshirt season, is moving to DE for #UConn

Like this move, Boland put up huge sack and tackles for loss numbers in high school, he should have been a D lineman from day 1. The defensive line needed help.

As far as tight end goes, if we are weak at that position just play a lot of 4 wr sets, we are loaded at wr.

 

[huskymedic]

As far as tight end goes, if we are weak at that position just play a lot of 4 wr sets, we are loaded at wr.

Quinn Thompson - out... Hashemi/Bloom - in.

Shelton's Hashemi off to a good start at UConn
http://runwayramblings.blogspot.com/2014/08/sheltons-hashemi-off-to-good-start-at.html

>>Diaco was asked whether they had enough depth at tight end after redshirt freshman Quinn Thompson (the leading receiver with five catches in the spring game) left the program, he had nothing but good things to say about former St. Joseph High of Trumbull star Steve Hashemi. The 6-foot-6, 262-pound Hashemi was the first player to commit to UConn after Diaco was hired and he has been impressive enough that redshirt freshman Michael Boland was shifted to defensive end.

"Alec Bloom, we are taking a look at (as a tight end)," Diaco said. "I have to watch the tape but to me it looked pretty good today (with) Steve Hashemi at tight end so we are excited about those guys. We moved Michael Boland out of there, back to the position that he came here to play and he is very excited about it.We feel good about the tight end position. I am looking forward to seeing and hear how Steve did today but if he is able to be functioning there, (we would be) walking off the bus (with four) pretty good-looking guys."<<

>>"We see him (Hashemi), even still as an offensive linemen," Diaco said. "I have explained how we roll. I explained how we want to do our business, we want to create formations that can overwhelm the defense at the point of attack so that wouldn't be off base to take a young athletic offensive tackle that probably wouldn't be able to participate at offensive tackle and see if he can do some tight end jobs that look a little like offensive tackle jobs in a tight end jersey."<<

 

[uconnbill]

The Boyle fiasco lands squarely at Warde's feet. that was a ticket sales decision. And it was bad for the kid, bad for the team and may well have blown a redshirt year. No way on this earth was Boyle ready to step onto a college football field in game conditions. That little experiment was just a waste for everyone involved. Cochran, as jdb50 points out, came in and produced touchdowns, a couple with very sweet plays, late in some games. Even though it was with the B-squad agaisnt B-squad, he just looked far more competent. I thought he looked nervous early against SMU, but settled down after that and delivered the rest of the way until the late pick 6 which happened in desperation time. he got us back in it, but the killer was Wagner's 14 yard punt from deep in our end.

I just want to add here that I was not a Cochran fan in the least. I saw him a couple of times in high school and was unimpressed, saw him in the blue-white games and they confirmed my original thinking. I thought he was there soley to please the high School coaches. But in the games he played, you could just see the whole team play better when he took the field. he made plays, he stepped up when he should have, he knew what he was doing. He showed confidence and leadership even when it was in blow outs. Had he played rather than Boyle, I think we had at least 1, maybe 2 more Ws. No guarantees for sure, but he was that much better.

Your wrong. From all I have been told that Casey Cochran had practice issues as is he didn't practice well. That is why Boyle was given the chance, though I wish they didn't and he was redshirted

 

[Jerry27]

Your post would have been better served if you stopped right here.

No doubt that the recruiting process (as I understand it) s.u.c.k.s. but it is what it is. It's a fluid process and needs change. I couldn't care much less if a player withholds his commitment. That is his right, and frankly, his rights more or less end once he presses the green button on the fax machine.



The fact remains that there is politics and favoritism everywhere and in this particular case, it clashed with (what I perceived was) a sense of entitlement. I believe there were a couple of other things a play as well. The family may have been able to read between the lines and sensed the discontent with the former regime and conclude they were not going to be there much longer. With that, they could have determined the uncertainty was too great (Does the AD bring in a Spread coach?). They could have also used that to their advantage (i.e. Let the local kids fall on their face with the outgoing regime and redshirt. Then shine for the new staff with all 4 years of eligibility). Who knows, but at the end of the day, it doesn't matter.

Regarding the team we have today, I am unsure what skill sets Whitmer has that Casey doesn't. They are both 6 foot pocket passers, but Cochran may have a little more mobility (and by a little, I mean the slightest hair). I think they should make every attempt to redshirt Boyle. Not only for the good of the team but for his own development. I am hoping against hope that he was not broken by those 4 games last year. In the end I will be on the 30 yard line (press box side, nearest the video board) applauding the team on the field, admittedly with higher expectations than I should have.

We'll have to agree to disagree on this. My view of what happened in camp was based on conversations with the player and parent, as well as after doubting them, watching it unfold as I was told it would. It's not my personal opinion which is what you seem to be representing as fact. And I think I'll decide when to end my posts, thanks.

But I can agree the focus should be on the here and now, so the above is the last I will say about it.

I think Casey should be our starter and I'm looking forward to the beginning of the Diaco era!

 

[FAIRTIDES]

I don't think there is anyone on the board who would be upset if Casey is named the starter. Literally, I don't think there is even one person. But there is going to be a new philosophy, with a new line, a new OC, and a new HC. And all of that is going to play into the decision of who starts the first game. At risk of sounding like a homer, In Diaco I Trust...

BD is doing what any good coach taking over a losing program does. He's telling his players that they are each a clean sheet of paper. The past, good or bad, no longer exists and playing time will be dependent on player performance in the new UCONN FB environment. He then backed up his words by "firing" those that didn't measure-up including a three-time leading rusher and former freshman All-American. My guess is that his actions got the teams attention. It seems everyone has bought in.

BD wants to win. To that end, he's going to play the the players he feels give him the best chance. That's every position and every player; including QB. Self preservation is a hell of a motivator. It's obvious that BD doesn't see himself as career Coordinator.

 

[pj]

The fact remains that there is politics and favoritism everywhere and in this particular case, it clashed with (what I perceived was) a sense of entitlement. I believe there were a couple of other things a play as well. The family may have been able to read between the lines and sensed the discontent with the former regime and conclude they were not going to be there much longer. With that, they could have determined the uncertainty was too great (Does the AD bring in a Spread coach?). They could have also used that to their advantage (i.e. Let the local kids fall on their face with the outgoing regime and redshirt. Then shine for the new staff with all 4 years of eligibility). Who knows, but at the end of the day, it doesn't matter.

Regarding the team we have today, I am unsure what skill sets Whitmer has that Casey doesn't. They are both 6 foot pocket passers, but Cochran may have a little more mobility (and by a little, I mean the slightest hair). I think they should make every attempt to redshirt Boyle. Not only for the good of the team but for his own development. I am hoping against hope that he was not broken by those 4 games last year. In the end I will be on the 30 yard line (press box side, nearest the video board) applauding the team on the field, admittedly with higher expectations than I should have.

The first part is wrong. The relationship between that certain player and PPGDL was poisoned in the lead-up to national signing day. There was an attempt at reconciliation and he showed up on campus briefly, but he clearly didn't want to play for PP. If he had known PP would be fired a few games in, maybe he stays. But he definitely wasn't comfortable under PP. And it wasn't just the conviction that there would be favoritism to local players.

 

[Duncan Idaho]

That was an interesting summer, Holines and Jasodowich<sp> left early too. Curious how Holines develops.

 

[Nostical]

From all I have been told Casey Cochran had practice issues as is he didn't practice well. That is why Boyle was given the chance, though I wish they didn't and he was redshirted

Yes, but it would be folly to believe that parents who want their QB son to play don't often try to influence that decision. And there are expectations and promises etc that are often made by coaches. But in the end here's the truncated reality.

1. Why wasn't Casey playing before the desperation of the final three games?
Truth is he was a poor practice player. The other guys looked better.

2. Why was Tim's redshirt burned? Was he ready?
Truth is TJ wanted him to stay a redshirt but PP had trumpeted Tim as the starter to try and resurrect the floundering season (and save his job) and too much publicity and raising of expectations had gone on to turn off that switch. Considering the caliber of the opposition it was probably asking too much of him.

3. What about Chandler?
Great kid with lots of talent. Can make all the throws. Turnovers hurt him but many weren't his fault.

4. What's the most important attribute a QB can have? Strong arm? Command of the playbook? Foot speed? Escapability?
Given that QB's recruited at this level have one or more of those, the key is leadership. Does the team believe in the guy and do they want to fight for him. Casey certainly displayed that at year end.

I have infinitely more respect for this coaching staff. There will be a fair competition and all of the elements will be weighed. Lots of things have to go right for a team to jell. Cohesiveness, a sense of collective purpose, mutual respect, brotherhood, understanding of the playbook, attention to detail, a belief in the wisdom of the coaches, a strong sense of team discipline, captains who command respect and deliver the message, etc.

Its a complex process with lots of moving parts but I'll be watching to see how far we've come in reducing the indecisiveness, the multiple sideline glances, the instances of running the wrong route or hitting the wrong gap, the delays of game and false starts. That says a lot about whether the team is tuned in and serious about winning. Unlike the PP years when we simply waited for the inevitable screwup, I'm expecting just the opposite under BD. Can't wait for BYU!

 

[jdb50]

Nostical, don't forget the too many men in the huddle, I couldn't believe the fire drill every substitution change became. Cure that and have less false starts and we get Bowl eligible right there.

 

[noeynox]

There was a delay of game penalty coming out of a time out, where you just knew the game had passed these guys by.

 

[tjhusky]

And these guys are being taught how to do things right. So when the inevitable mistake happens they all know what happened and can go on and execute the next play with confidence.

 

[gioff23]

I keep debating whether to join the who should be QB fray. What the heck, it's Monday. My preference would be to regain TB's RS year, so that leaves me with Casey and Whitmer. And, by the way, just so I am clear the AD forced the staff to play TB and TJ relented. Got it. Those of us who have some recall of the O after 4 games last year and also presume TJW was a man before he ran out on the field in December in short sleeves, might choose to think otherwise. I think TB is exactly what HCBD wants down the road, a big, strong armed passer who can see over the trees he is recruiting up front, but I would prefer that development begin in full in 15, with 3 years to grow.

That leaves 2. For 2 years I have wanted to see Whitmer shine. And he does, at times. And then, he does something stupid. His arm is not that strong, his feet not that quick, and he holds on to the ball too long. And then he inevitably tries the impossible, at least for this squad. Let's be honest, every possession counts this year. We need time of possession, long drives, and mistake-free football. I am at a point where I don't trust Whitmer to deliver that.

The last 2 games were really fun. They put a smile back on the fan of UConn faces and led us all to believe there was hope. But they were 2 games. CC was not so good against SMU, not good against Temple, and mop up duty means you're playing against 2d and 3d stringers, so I give less credit there. Like Whitmer, he is small, does not possess a strong arm, and is slow. But he gets rid of the ball quickly, is accurate, and showed poise that was off the charts at the end of the year. If he can continue to do that, he should get the nod in 14.

And that would be how HCBD plays 2 QBs. Let CC start, but give CW some reps., both to keep him ready and to reward him for coming back. And let TB sit and learn. And, go find another QB to come in next year (transfer or recruit), as we need to rebuild depth at the position.