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DePaul Postgame Thread

There are frequent comments of Blanca doing great especially since she is a freshman (which is technically true since this is her first year in college).

But she is also a 5 or 6 year veteran of the Italian pro league and should be understood to be in a category (if indeed that is required) of her own making;
whatever that is...

She is most certainly not your average HS graduate with AAU, even USA experience.
True….but she is younger than each starting 5 player,K9 and Allie and others. While physically she hasn’t matured she also has plenty of room to grow in her decision making. I trust that Geno and teammates will help her with that. Very,very high ceiling.
 
Geno is going to have a quarterback (I mean point guard) problem/controversy (sarcasm) next year with 3 very capable point guards....

Right now KK and Heckel would start on every team in America. I am pleasantly surprised at how good Heckel really is. She does everything right. Her defense, shooting, passing and hustling are excellent. She is really picking up the Uconn "system" fast.

Sure we are playing subpar teams at best but I am really looking at the movement of the players when I watch these games. Heckel has it. So does KK.

But Fisher may end up being better when all is said and done. All you have to do is watch her for 5 minutes to see she is gonna be special.

All 3 are coming back and they are all gonna want serious playing time. Who wouldn't?

I have the feeling we are watching the beginning of another Uconn dynasty for real.

This team reminds me of the old days when we intimidated teams because of the name on our jerseys..

And I don't think I am getting carried away. I like what I see.

Btw,

I have always believed that Geno/Uconn really is a "system"

Tom Landry used to use that term to describe his Dallas Cowboys. It wasn't Roger Staubach is was the Landry "system"....

Yeah I just watched a documentary about Roger and Landry.
The good point guard problem to have will sort itself out. One or two of them will become the shooting guard, very offensive minded while at certain game situations you want a point guard to run the clock and set up the team.
You can never have enough point guards, they complement each other, offer speed up offense and lock-down defense. All this takes a lot of energy. The Huskies couldn't run this type of offence recently but with the wealth of talent at this position, Geno has unlocked quite a different system. We are a force of scary talent.
 
But [Blanca] is also a 5 or 6 year veteran of the Italian pro league and should be understood to be in a category (if indeed that is required) of her own making;
whatever that is...

She is most certainly not your average HS graduate with AAU, even USA experience.
This is clearly true. She spent several years playing with and against women in their 20s -30s. There were other teenagers in the Italian league but few of them (if any) got playing time on the scale Blanca did. A typical D1 freshman has mainly played against kids younger than themselves in high school.

In the pregame presser, Blanca said something about having to get used to the pace of play at UConn and how it had been possible to take a play off occasionally in the Italian league. But there’s no slowdown here. This may also be what she likes best about UConn. This girl has a motor and seems to enjoy the new challenge.
 
Agree on Blanca's ceiling but concerned that she exceled in the "pro" leagues based more on her exceptional athleticism than her basketball skills. With games like DePaul and Xavier less valuable than some UConn practices, have tried to watch top games, particularly living in SC, from the SEC. Many of the Top 10-15 teams like South Carolina have very aggressive players with the maturity to offset Blanca's speed and quickness. Find Blanca to be one of the most enjoyable players to watch and a great addition to the UConn bench. Just not as excited as some when Blanca beats up on players several inches smaller that do not compare skill wise to what she will face at the end of the year.
 
This game reminded me of when Uconn was in the American conference..just complete dominance in every phase
SS no other words to describe her..each game I shake my head about the things she can do..calling her mini Jokic is right on ..I would also say that in some plays she looks like Maya in how effortless and smooth she is
 
Beg to differ about KK as to lack of recognition here. I called her the best defensive point guard in the country on this site just yesterday and this morning but I have repeatedly also said that Kayleigh is the better offensive player which she is. I don't think that distinction is important to either one of them and the fact that the opposing PG has to cover two different kinds of players in succession is of great advantage to us. They are both all about team first. There aren't too many other teams in the country that Kayleigh would not be starting on right now so I don't think that great potential is the right way to characterize her as a player. In fact, I personally don't think she gets enough credit here. Perhaps this afternoon's game will open a lot of eyes.
A better defensive pg than HH of Notre Dame ? Did you see her game when she got 16 steals..I mean 16 in just 28 minutes
 
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The good point guard problem to have will sort itself out. One or two of them will become the shooting guard, very offensive minded while at certain game situations you want a point guard to run the clock and set up the team.
You can never have enough point guards, they complement each other, offer speed up offense and lock-down defense. All this takes a lot of energy. The Huskies couldn't run this type of offence recently but with the wealth of talent at this position, Geno has unlocked quite a different system. We are a force of scary talent.
Yes next year Heckel will be the shooting guard taking Azzis position and KK will remain the point guard.. Fisher will get plenty of playing time until she is ready to inherit the point..

But he is gonna have to start both KK and Heckel next year.

I agree. I was thinking this out last night too.

Either way we are in a great spot.
 
A better defensive pg than HH of Notre Dame ? Did you see her game when she got 16 steals..I mean 16 in just 28 minutes
I’ll answer that. KK has been far more consistent than HH, particularly when it comes to “pg” responsibilities. HH has 39 assists and 26 turnovers, for an A/TO ratio of 1.5. She is a high volume shooter currently at 48% from the floor and only 20% from 3-pt.

Now let’s take a look at KK. She also has 39 assists, but only 8 turnovers, putting her among the nation’s leaders in A/TO ratio of 4.85. KK is currently shooting 55% from the floor & 28% from 3-pt.

HH can play great at times. She does lead the nation in steals with 44 to KK’s 23. But she can also start pressing by forcing shots and turning over the ball. As for HH’s 16 steals, along with 44 pts, they came against 1-7 Akron, currently ranked 304th by RPI. For my money, I want KK running the point.
 
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Yes next year Heckel will be the shooting guard taking Azzis position and KK will remain the point guard.. Fisher will get plenty of playing time until she is ready to inherit the point..

But he is gonna have to start both KK and Heckel next year.

I agree. I was thinking this out last night too.

Either way we are in a great spot.
It’s a little early to decide next year’s lineup. As good as Kayleigh has been, I would not assume she steps into the starting lineup as a shooting guard. Allie, Jovana & Kelis will all have something to say about that.
 
There are frequent comments of Blanca doing great especially since she is a freshman...

But she is also a 5 or 6 year veteran of the Italian pro league...

She is most certainly not your average HS graduate with AAU, even USA experience.
It's far more that Blanca's time and experience in a league, which is time she has because of her athleticism. She is a very special gene pool with elite athletic talent including incredible fast twitch muscles, vision, and reaction speed. I could train for decades with no hope....

John Wooden said it best: "Talent is God given. Be humble" (which she seems to embody with her smile and interactions).

Enjoy it while we have her as a Husky, just don't blink or you'll miss it - I often have to watch the replays over and over to see how she pulled some of those moves off!! We're so lucky!!!
 
Great game all around albeit against a clearly overmatched and weak opponent. Sarah and Azzi could’ve scored 35 points each easily if they played 30 minutes and I am becoming concerned that they won’t each be first team All Americans as they deserve for both their offense and all around impressive games because they don’t get to pile up the stats like other star players on other teams.

Speaking of this issue, the same applies to KK,what she did in just 15 minutes ( 7 points 7 assists 3 rebounds, multiple steals and forced turnovers) while handling the ball perfectly without any turnovers and playing unparalleled defense is truly phenomenal. She could have scored and assisted at will if left in there for another 10 minutes yet now all that will be known is that she only got 7 points. Even on this forum people are giving kudos to Kayleigh because she put up 16 points etc. when KK and SS and Azzi effectively won the game in the first 15 minutes.

I am not criticizing Kayleigh Heckel or any of the other non starters but the simple fact is that they are essentially playing in garbage time when they’re up by 40 or 50 points without any pressure or concerns and not having to worry about defense and can concentrate on padding their stats and just running offense. KK is one of the very best all around point guards in the country and the pulse of our team yet gets literally no credit, even on this forum. Kayleigh Heckel is a welcome addition to the Huskies and has great potential but any suggestion that she’s a better player or PG or should be starting over KK is ridiculous as is trying to compare the 4th quarter clean up crews stats and contributions to any of the starters or BQ since they all play when the game actually matters against the other teams starters.
H Dog, the implications of your concerns are eye-brow raising. Perhaps you think that at a certain point in the game individual accolades should take priority over team development? Or perhaps you think that individual accolades should take priority over the individual growth and integration of newer players?

The essence of UConn women's basketball is that the team is the focus, not the individual. Always.

To your first concern, Sarah and Azzi are both averaging around 18 ppg for the undefeated #1 team in the country, playing in front of national TV audiences every game. If they continue to play even close to the level they are at and UConn continues to play as well as they have so far - and there is no reason to think they won't if they stay healthy, knock on wood - then the AA awards and accolades will be there at the end of the season.

Sarah received First Team All-American honors last year, and her numbers this year are better than ever despite playing fewer minutes per game. Likewise, both her and Azzi are statistically ahead of many players on national and conference pre-season watch lists (Booker, Latson, Miles, Betts, Johnson, Beers, Davidson, Fulwiley, to name a few).

To your second concern regarding KK and K9, your defensive/protective stance around KK Arnold is puzzling. You contend that she "gets literally no credit, even on this forum". Really??? As the starting UConn point guard, KK has been in the spotlight since Day One, and is constantly feted for her play both in practices and games - and deservingly so. She not only gets oodles of love and respect on the Boneyard, but also is brought front and center to pre-game and post game pressers. She even has been a repeat selection for Bob Joyce's post game interviews. In short, UConn Nation holds KK Arnold in very high regard.

I don't understand why you seem to take a helicopter parent's stance in feeling that K9's continued growth somehow threatens or diminishes KK's play. It doesn't. Both remain wonderful players and teammates, and are integral to the pursuit of NC13.

Bottom line: no need to be concerned on how playing time affects individual accolades, nor how it impacts the respect and admiration that Huskies receive inside or outside the Basketball Capital of the World.
 
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It’s a little early to decide next year’s lineup. As good as Kayleigh has been, I would not assume she steps into the starting lineup as a shooting guard. Allie, Jovana & Kelis will all have something to say about that.
Yes, it is a little early, but K9 will have had a year at USC and a year at UConn. Assuming she stays on the current tragectory and shows good 3pt percentages, she will be first, then Allie, who while a great 3pt shooter and good to the basket is still slower afoot in transition. Then Kelis and finally Jovana.
 
Agree on Blanca's ceiling but concerned that she exceled in the "pro" leagues based more on her exceptional athleticism than her basketball skills. With games like DePaul and Xavier less valuable than some UConn practices, have tried to watch top games, particularly living in SC, from the SEC. Many of the Top 10-15 teams like South Carolina have very aggressive players with the maturity to offset Blanca's speed and quickness. Find Blanca to be one of the most enjoyable players to watch and a great addition to the UConn bench. Just not as excited as some when Blanca beats up on players several inches smaller that do not compare skill wise to what she will face at the end of the year.
Guess you don’t know Blanca’s career very well.
 
I’ll answer that. KK has been far more consistent than HH, particularly when it comes to “pg” responsibilities. HH has 39 assists and 26 turnovers, for an A/TO ratio of 1.5. She is a high volume shooter currently at 48% from the floor and only 20% from 3-pt.

Now let’s take a look at KK. She also has 39 assists, but only 8 turnovers, putting her among the nation’s leaders in A/TO ratio of 4.85. KK is currently shooting 55% from the floor & 28% from 3-pt.

HH can play great at times. She does lead the nation in steals with 44 to KK’s 23. But she can also start pressing by forcing shots and turning over the ball. As for HH’s 16 steals, along with 44 pts, they came against 1-7 Akron, currently ranked 304th by RPI. For my money, I want KK running the point.
I haven't looked at any stats, but your comparison got me thinking. KK has been known to pick up fouls often, so how does HH compare? And I wonder how many of the fouls are while going for a steal (rhetorical)?
But I am guessing that HH doesn't "commit" as many fouls because, well, she is HH.
 
I think Serah needs to just go up strong instead of trying to finesse anyone.
I agree with that for sure, but something else I noticed about her, is that she's not strong, more wirey in her build, that has been part of her problem as well. Doesn't or hasn't played well through contact. We shall see.
 
I agree with that for sure, but something else I noticed about her, is that she's not strong, more wirey in her build, that has been part of her problem as well. Doesn't or hasn't played well through contact. We shall see.
I define wiry as thin/skinny, but strong. Michael Cooper, George Gervin, maybe even Jordan, Pippen, and/or Rodman. I'm not sure yet, if she's strong. Getting pushed around inside is usually a weight thing vs a strength thing. Sarah has all the above. Maybe the lack of confidence in her movements manifests itself in the perception of her being weak. I want to see her seeking out rebounds. Sarah "covers" the whole half court. An advantage of being wiry is usually quickness to move around people. I don't see it. (yet?) Like Geno said, we gotta see it. Jana's not wiry.
 
Agree on Blanca's ceiling but concerned that she exceled in the "pro" leagues based more on her exceptional athleticism than her basketball skills. With games like DePaul and Xavier less valuable than some UConn practices, have tried to watch top games, particularly living in SC, from the SEC. Many of the Top 10-15 teams like South Carolina have very aggressive players with the maturity to offset Blanca's speed and quickness. Find Blanca to be one of the most enjoyable players to watch and a great addition to the UConn bench. Just not as excited as some when Blanca beats up on players several inches smaller that do not compare skill wise to what she will face at the end of the year.
HopJim, I always welcome your insight and your ability to explain yourself clearly. Furthermore, you often come across as someone with a bit of background as a coach/teacher, and not just a basketball aficionado.

That said, can you please explain how "very aggressive players with maturity" will offset speed and quickness? Not just as it pertains to Blanca, but for anyone.

As I watch Blanca, I get excited thinking about how her speed, quickness, length, fearlessness, and inside/outside game will play out against bigger, stronger and more experienced teams that the Huskies will have to play on the Yellow Brick Road to NC13.

Specifically, I wonder how SEC Teams - and in particular South Carolina - will approach trying to play the Huskies when Blanca is on the floor. The issue is not simply how to contain or limit Blanca, but how does a team contain her without weakening its containment of the other players? The other side of the same coin holds true: can a team risk taking added measures to try to contain/overplay Sarah or Azzi (or any of the others) when Blanca is on the court?

From my perch, as the season progresses and Blanca integrates further with the various rotations and becomes more entwined with the UConn way of playing, I believe she will be a nightmare coming off the bench for any team that has not previously played the Huskies this season. The Ecuadorian Incubo.

What is the scout on Blanca? Are there enough data points to even have a scout nine games into her first season? I appreciate your insight and look forward to your (and others) thoughts.

Go Huskies!
 
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I’ll answer that. KK has been far more consistent than HH, particularly when it comes to “pg” responsibilities. HH has 39 assists and 26 turnovers, for an A/TO ratio of 1.5. She is a high volume shooter currently at 48% from the floor and only 20% from 3-pt.

Now let’s take a look at KK. She also has 39 assists, but only 8 turnovers, putting her among the nation’s leaders in A/TO ratio of 4.85. KK is currently shooting 55% from the floor & 28% from 3-pt.

HH can play great at times. She does lead the nation in steals with 44 to KK’s 23. But she can also start pressing by forcing shots and turning over the ball. As for HH’s 16 steals, along with 44 pts, they came against 1-7 Akron, currently ranked 304th by RPI. For my money, I want KK running the point.
Spot on re the quality of competition (which really is a euphemism here). The Akron zippers recently won their first game of the season. The victory came against “Heidelberg”, which is both a D3 school and just happens to be the hometown of Sargent Schultz. The Zippers entered the game against ND with 3 freshman guards playing in their 3rd game. Prior to ND, the zippers had only only averaged 20 turnovers. So HH showed up an undersized inexperienced group. Why HH had to play 30 minutes and run up the scoring against that level of opponent makes me question the motive or leadership. Citing that game as an “accomplishment” benefits from the clarity of context.
 

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When Blanca “slows” down just a bit when she gets within 10-15 feet of the basket . . . She’ll be an extraordinary scorer.

When she gets going down hill she gets a little too fast and out of control.
 
I define wiry as thin/skinny, but strong. Michael Cooper, George Gervin, maybe even Jordan, Pippen, and/or Rodman. I'm not sure yet, if she's strong. Getting pushed around inside is usually a weight thing vs a strength thing. Sarah has all the above. Maybe the lack of confidence in her movements manifests itself in the perception of her being weak. I want to see her seeking out rebounds. Sarah "covers" the whole half court. An advantage of being wiry is usually quickness to move around people. I don't see it. (yet?) Like Geno said, we gotta see it. Jana's not wiry.
When I say not strong, I see it in when she tries to finish through contact mostly. She is a good rebounder but not a good finisher due to lack of strength and always being off balance and rushing. I think her strength for us will show mostly in rebounding, not finishing. Still very valuable. Maybe the strength and conditioning at Wisconsin wasnt as good as it is at Uconn, we just dont have the time she may need because I think if she had more than one year, she'd be unbelievable. I think Jana will be more valuable to our team success this year when it's all said and done. The bigs on the top teams are to big and strong for Williams, not Jana. Williams will get pushed around by them to easily. Just a guess from what I'm seeing. Williams of course will have some success against anyone but Jana's defense against those types will be better in my opinion. Also as a combo they may be exactly what we'll need.
 
When I say not strong, I see it in when she tries to finish through contact mostly. She is a good rebounder but not a good finisher due to lack of strength and always being off balance and rushing. I think her strength for us will show mostly in rebounding, not finishing. Still very valuable. Maybe the strength and conditioning at Wisconsin wasnt as good as it is at Uconn, we just dont have the time she may need because I think if she had more than one year, she'd be unbelievable. I think Jana will be more valuable to our team success this year when it's all said and done. The bigs on the top teams are to big and strong for Williams, not Jana. Williams will get pushed around by them to easily. Just a guess from what I'm seeing. Williams of course will have some success against anyone but Jana's defense against those types will be better in my opinion. Also as a combo they may be exactly what we'll need.
I’d like to see Jana get more minutes with the first unit. I like the small lineup with Blanca. We might have a rematch in March with Betts. Jana was fantastic against her in that game last year. Will be interesting to watch this play out. I want Sarah’s dreams to come true, but Geno always plays his best players.
 
Another blowout, but I think Geno now has his top rotations figured out. I believe eventually Blanca will replace Aslynn in the starting lineup.

Congrats to Sue. Well deserved. I would have asked her when she was being interviewed in the 2nd qtr who does she think is the best shooter in the history of UCONN. We have had Kaleena Mosqueda, Katie Lou, Paige and Azzi. I think Azzi would take the title.

I would have really liked to have seen Gandy get put in. I mean if you play Ayanna you can put in Gandy. She plays just as hard and offers more rebounding and rim protection than Ayanna. We won by almost 70 so when will she get in when we are up by 80? Against Texas big, UCLA and SC we might need her to spell Jana since Serah wont be able to guard them.

Serah still doesn’t look like the person we saw in the videos of her at Wisconsin. I hope she gets comfortable soon.

Kellis needs to slow down and stop trying to score so much. If you run the offense correctly, scoring will come. She forces shots a lot.

While I know the bench needs PT the offense bogs down a lot. I would like players like Ayanna, Caroline and Jana get some PT with the first string a lot more.
I disagree that Blanca will replace ASH. But she will earn more time on the court, so starting is not the issue. I, too, was disappointed not to see Gandy. For a moment, ( third quarter), I didn't recognize #22 and thought it was Gandy *( a shock at that point in the game). But it was Willams playing. And you are right, if Gandy doesn't play in this level of blowout, when? Agree, too, about Kellis. She needs the game to slow down for her. I hope Gandy turns out to be terrific, but we usually hear some " positive anecdotes" about a new player, by this time, and the silence is deafening.
 
A better defensive pg than HH of Notre Dame ? Did you see her game when she got 16 steals..I mean 16 in just 28 minutes
It was a great performance against a 1-7 team who only had beaten Heidelberg who only had beaten Earlham. You realize that could never happen on a UCONN team with our other great defenders and the way we play. HH had more steals than the rest of the team combined. She also took 50% of the shots in the 3 quarters she played. Sorry, I prefer KK for our team. We get to see them both and by your preference, HH should have a great defensive game against us. Maybe she will and maybe she won't. Last year she had 3 steals against us in 38 minutes, the year before she had 0 in 40 minutes..
 
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It was a great performance against a 1-7 team who only had beaten Heidelberg who only had beaten Earlham. You realize that could never happen on a UCONN team with our other great defenders and the way we play. HH had more steals than the rest of the team combined. She also took 50% of the shots in the 3 quarters she played. Sorry, I prefer KK for our team. We get to see them both and by your preference, HH should have a great defensive game against us. Maybe she will and maybe she won't. Last year she had 3 steals against us in 38 minutes, the year before she had 0 in 40 minutes..
That's true but maybe it was because no one on Uconn could stop her from scoring..she didn't need to try for steals because she was completely dominating both games no matter who was on her including Nika and Paige
I personally don't like her but to say KK is a better defensive player than HH is just wrong..Hilldago was DPOY in the ACC and came in second to Lauren Betts for NDPOY
 

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