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Message: [QUOTE="ncteacher, post: 3659269, member: 6985"] I never prescribed to the, "Won Championships" determines if someone is great or not. If so, Frankie Crosetti would be one of sports greatest athletes. Hint: he isn't. However, he won 17 championships, 9 as a player and 8 as a coach. Other multiple championship winners that I can think of off the top of my head are Will Perdue and Curt Rambis who I believe won four and three respectively. Who is better Karl Malone or one of those two? Sometimes you just have to be lucky. You can be sitting on the far end of the bench and win a championship, or you could be the key component on a team that never got over the hump. People use the argument about Bill Russell winning eleven all the time. That was before my time, but it could be possible that he had a pretty good team around him. I have always considered Chamberlain the best based on shear individual numbers. Even that is subjective, because someone like Jordan (or DT) made those around them better, and that might be as important. [/QUOTE]