"Debatable Eight" to be announced today (Sun.) at 5pm ET

[Plebe]

 

[triaddukefan]

sounds cruel.....

 

[Jmsdawg]

Hope Arkansas is in that group.

 

[Plebe]

I predict (in alphabetical order):

Arkansas
Indiana
Lamar
Ohio
TCU
Tennessee
UCF
USC

Of these 8 teams, I think Indiana is the safest (almost certainly in) and Lamar is the least safe.

Other possibilities: Miami (OH), St. Mary's, Virginia Tech, West Virginia

 

[Geew1992]

I predict (in alphabetical order):

Arkansas
Indiana
Lamar
Ohio
TCU
Tennessee
UCF
USC

Of these 8 teams, I think Indiana is the safest (almost certainly in) and Lamar is the least safe.

Other possibilities: Miami (OH), St. Mary's, Virginia Tech, West Virginia

 

[Geew1992]

Just as long as Holly’s job is safe

 

[Jmsdawg]

I thought Lamar had an automatic bid.

 

[Plebe]

I thought Lamar had an automatic bid.

Lamar lost in the Southland semifinals yesterday to Abilene Christian, which appears on the verge of getting the auto-bid (up 3 over TAM-CC with 6 seconds to play).

 

[PacoBlaze]

Has this been done for previous Tournaments?
Does this "reveal" mean that 4 of 8 will make it and 4 will not (sort of like Charlie's last 4 in and first 4 out)?

Except that we have to wait until tomorrow to find out the actual teams selected...

 

[Plebe]

Missouri State's win over Drake takes away an at-large spot.
So I'm dropping Lamar from my "debatable eight" and adding Kansas State.

Arkansas​

Indiana​

Kansas State​

Ohio​

TCU​

Tennessee​

UCF​

USC​

​

Of these 8 teams, I think Kansas State is the safest (almost certainly in) and Arkansas is the least safe.

Who will be the team whose bid got stolen? I believe it comes down to one of four teams: Ohio, TCU, Tennessee or UCF.

Other possibilities:
On the top side of the bubble: Auburn
On the bottom side: Lamar, Miami (OH), St. Mary's, Virginia Tech, West Virginia

 

[DefenseBB]

5 PM? SC is listed as 5:15-6 PM on the main network and the ATP is on the deuce!
Can't they even get with it for their own programming???

I want to tempt fate and see if Tenn doesn't make the NCAAT for the first time ever if Holly would resign or be replaced given what she has coming in next year and prior vote of support she got from AD Fulmer. I really don't think he would replace her and that would be awesome to follow on VolNation! I am also not convinced even if they did "retire Holly" that they would hire someone outside of the program to lead them. That is also great theatre to watch!

 

[Plebe]

5 PM? SC is listed as 5:15-6 PM on the main network and the ATP is on the deuce!
Can't they even get with it for their own programming???

Yeah I think they're waiting on the end of the Houston-Cincinnati men's game.

This was what ESPN actually announced: "Fans will get a glimpse at the Committee’s discussions prior to Selection Monday. In the 5 p.m. hour of SportsCenter on Sunday, NCAA Women’s Basketball Tournament Selection Committee chair Rhonda Bennett will join Zubin Mehenti and Michael Eaves to reveal, in alphabetical order, the final eight teams which will be considered for the women’s tournament."

So Voepel misread that as "at 5 p.m."

 

[eebmg]

Yeah I think they're waiting on the end of the Houston-Cincinnati men's game.

This was what ESPN actually announced: "Fans will get a glimpse at the Committee’s discussions prior to Selection Monday. In the 5 p.m. hour of SportsCenter on Sunday, NCAA Women’s Basketball Tournament Selection Committee chair Rhonda Bennett will join Zubin Mehenti and Michael Eaves to reveal, in alphabetical order, the final eight teams which will be considered for the women’s tournament."

So Voepel misread that as "at 5 p.m."

so is Princeton safe even if they lose to Penn and does not enter this "Debatable 8" ?

 

[Plebe]

so is Princeton safe even if they lose to Penn and does not enter this "Debatable 8" ?

Neither Princeton nor Penn will receive an at-large bid. The Ivy is a one-bid league this year.

Princeton has too many bad losses and almost nothing in terms of quality wins.

 

[Plebe]

 

[eebmg]

Neither Princeton nor Penn will receive an at-large bid. The Ivy is a one-bid league this year.

Princeton has too many bad losses and almost nothing in terms of quality wins.

The Ivy announcers did mention that 7 of Princeton's 9 losses were without Alarie but I get that will not convince most.

 

[Plebe]

The Ivy announcers did mention that 7 of Princeton's 9 losses were without Alarie but I get that will not convince most.

That's a lot of losing to have to overlook. They still suffered a bad loss to Yale with her playing, as well as a loss to Penn.

Princeton actually has a similar resume to UCF's on the win side of the ledger, but a whole bunch of surplus losses by comparison. And the loss to George Washington is just a bad loss, regardless of who didn't play.

 

[Plebe]

WHOA.

Arkansas
Auburn
Indiana
Ohio
Princeton
Tennessee
TCU
UCF

 

[triaddukefan]

UCF should be considered for the WNIT

 

[Plebe]

UCF should be considered for the WNIT

 

[eebmg]

UCF should be considered for the WNIT

Lobo says UCF in.

 

[Plebe]

Lobo says UCF in.

I'm very uncertain about them. The main thing they have going for them is their extremely high RPI.

I don't know if a team has ever received an at-large bid despite no wins over at-large-caliber teams.

 

[triaddukefan]

Lobo says UCF in.

I dont listen to her so

 

[triaddukefan]

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Seems like the majority of the Boneyard doesnt like UCF.... so Im just trying to fit in

 

[CompSci87]

Why did they announce this before all the conference tournaments were over? It was weird to call Princeton debatable when they could still get the autobid. (And of course now they have it.)

 

[Vowelguy]

Links to team sheets:

Arkansas
Auburn
Indiana
Ohio
Princeton IN
Tennessee
TCU
UCF

 

[Vowelguy]

AUB
rpi 50 / sos 71 / avg rpi win 168
2-7 vs RPI 50 (Mizzou N, UNC H)
3-2 vs RPI 100 (Ark A, LSU A, N Mex A / Tenn x2)
16-0 vs rest
3 nonconf games vs RPI 100

ARK
rpi 67 / sos 45 / avg rpi win 162
2-10 vs RPI 50 (SoCar N, TxAM N)
3-1 vs RPI 100 (Tenn A, TxArl A, Nebr H / LSU)
15-3 vs rest (Georgia x2, Pitt)
4 nonconf games vs RPI 100

IND
rpi 48 / sos 40 / avg rpi win 123
5-6 vs RPI 50 (Iowa H, UCLA A, SoDak N, MichSt H, Mich H)
4-1 vs RPI 100 (MoSt H, Butler H, Pur H, Nebr H / Pur )
11-5 vs rest (Ohio St, Nwstern x2, Minn, Grambling)
4 nonconf games vs RPI 100

OHIO
rpi 34 / sos 91 / avg rpi win 164
4-4 vs RPI 50 (Buffalo A, CMU A, MiaOH A, MiaOH N)
5-1 vs RPI 100 (Kent H, Kent A, Pur H, Lamar N, Amer A / Tole )
18-0 vs rest
3 nonconf games vs RPI 100

TENN
rpi 60 / sos 34 / avg rpi win 151
5-8 vs RPI 50 (Tex A, Mo A, Belmont H, Aub H, Aub A)
4-1 vs RPI 100 (Clem N, LSU H, LSU N, UAB N / Ark )
10-3 vs rest (Ga, Ala, Vandy)
6 nonconf games vs RPI 100

TCU
rpi 58 / sos 65 / avg rpi win 171
2-8 vs RPI 50 (Ia St H, Kan St A)
1-1 vs RPI 100 (WVa H / WVa A )
17-1 vs rest (Okla St)
1 nonconf games vs RPI 100

UCF
rpi 15 / sos 49 / avg rpi win 152
1-5 vs RPI 50 (Quinn A)
3-0 vs RPI 100 (Vill H, Cinc H, Cinc N)
22-1 vs rest (Tulane)
4 nonconf games vs RPI 100

 

[Vowelguy]

To me, Ohio & Tenn are clearly better then the others.

 

[DEpup]

UCF is in I think. This just seems like trying to create buzz and drama.