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SC has a tremendous basketball program, but first and foremost kids want to play. Dawn's calls to parents are preemptive in nature. Perhaps Dawn has heard some grumbling from a player or players and/or their parents. Some very talented kids, that could start for many teams in the country, aren't going to be getting much PT. The fall semester is going to end in a month or so and players can transfer and be immediately eligible.

For a kid like Amihere, she's looking at 2 more years behind Boston & 3 more years behind Cardoso. She may never crack the starting lineup at SC. I doubt that was her assumption when she decided to attend SC.
I think Amihere is solidly the 6.5 player off the bench. In many games, Cordova will be first off the bench to replace Boston. However, some games (like tonight???) will see a twin towers lineup for much of the game. She will be the second tower frequently.

While Cardosa is the first replacement at post, I think Amihere is the first replacement at forward except in games where twin towers are needed. Those games will be few.

We’ll see SOON
 
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For me, if the players don't want to wait and think they have better opportunities elsewhere, I have nothing but support for them.

But at the end of the day, the team has to play the best players and do what they need to do to win.

That is the one place where the incredibly difficult schedule bothers me slightly. This team could have used more playing time opportunities for reserves.

But I love schedule like this so I prefer it this way.
The "problem" with SC is that they're loaded with talent in the junior and freshman classes, with players sprinkled in between. I mean, they have an insane amount of talent, on paper-even more than we do I would say. So, the kids that get buried on the bench this year will probably be still buried there next year, because SC doesn't lose much.
 

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I think some of you are putting your own spin on a one line comment that doesn’t tell a whole story. Dawn has a great relationship with her parents. The convo is more along the lines of “this is the start of the season and at some point your daughter may get frustrated about PT, along with a lot of things.“. Once the season starts it’s going to be hard on everybody, but the freshmen are going to be the ones who are going to be impacted the most because they havent been through it yet. Every coach is different. She obviously has a great relationship with her players and their parents. This isn’t Dawn doing the calling either. Its the staff and it’s something that is done at certain times during the year every year.
That's an entirely reasonable explanation but not one a person would get from reading this article. Most significant is that these calls are coming before the "First game of the season" and that is according to the tittle of the article. That is not my spin that the title of the article and the prior quote by dawn indicate that "playing time" would be specifically discussed. SC opened the season last year against the College of Charleston. In that game 5 SC played 20 Mins or more, 5 additional SC players played double digits in minutes and another played 8 minutes. Dawn has 16 players on the roster this season and NCSt is not Charleston. BTW maintaining a good relationship with the parents makes these calls a very good idea and again I'm not suggesting Dawn is doing anything wrong.
 
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The "problem" with SC is that they're loaded with talent in the junior and freshman classes, with players sprinkled in between. I mean, they have an insane amount of talent, on paper-even more than we do I would say. So, the kids that get buried on the bench this year will probably be still buried there next year, because SC doesn't lose much.
That's not necessarily true we'll lose at least 4 rotational players this off-season, assuming we no one takes a Covid bonus year.
Henderson
Saxton
Littleton
Grissett (No more eligibility left)
Wesolek


So assuming that we land Watkins or get at least 1 transfer next season the rosters goes from 16 to a more manageable and typical Gamecock roster of 13. Players such as Feagin and Russell will absolutely gain playing time from the departures of Saxton and Littleton for example.
 

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Solid concern trolling in this thread.

If players transfer they transfer. If any program should know what that is like, it's UCONN.
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Yea UCONN has some experience with transfers that's true. SC has major experience with transfers as well since your one and only championship was largely propelled by transfers. UCONN doesn't have any experience managing a roster of 16 players. Please be sure to let us know how that works out for you!
 
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Yea UCONN has some experience with transfers that's true. SC has major experience with transfers as well since your one and only championship was largely propelled by transfers. UCONN doesn't have any experience managing a roster of 16 players. Please be sure to let us know how that works out for you!

Is there a roster in D1 that doesn't have a UCONN transfer on it?
 

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I think some of you are putting your own spin on a one line comment that doesn’t tell a whole story. Dawn has a great relationship with her parents. The convo is more along the lines of “this is the start of the season and at some point your daughter may get frustrated about PT, along with a lot of things.“. Once the season starts it’s going to be hard on everybody, but the freshmen are going to be the ones who are going to be impacted the most because they havent been through it yet. Every coach is different. She obviously has a great relationship with her players and their parents. This isn’t Dawn doing the calling either. Its the staff and it’s something that is done at certain times during the year every year.
GamecockWBB parents have a GREAT relationship with the program and you can see it in how involved the parents are on social media. Bree Hall’s dad is a fun follow by the way.
 

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That's not necessarily true we'll lose at least 4 rotational players this off-season, assuming we no one takes a Covid bonus year.
Henderson
Saxton
Littleton
Grissett (No more eligibility left)
Wesolek


So assuming that we land Watkins or get at least 1 transfer next season the rosters goes from 16 to a more manageable and typical Gamecock roster of 13. Players such as Feagin and Russell will absolutely gain playing time from the departures of Saxton and Littleton for example.
This year is Amihere’s audition for the starting spot next year IMHO. I love Amihere but she hasn’t earned it up to this point. If her junior goes as her postseason went last year then she’s no doubt the forward starter next year. Cardoso will still be Boston’s backup next year most likely because the post is ALL hers the following year.. and she’ll likely be a top 3 pick coming out.
 
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This year is Amihere’s audition for the starting spot next year IMHO. I love Amihere but she hasn’t earned it up to this point. If her junior goes as her postseason went last year then she’s no doubt the forward starter next year. Cardoso will still be Boston’s backup next year most likely because the post is ALL hers the following year.. and she’ll likely be a top 3 pick coming out.
No matter if Amihere starts or not, I think she'll be fine. I believe she'll be getting starter minutes regardless next season. She'll probably be the biggest benefactor from Saxton and Grissett departures. The NCAA tournament, the Americup and to a lesser extent the Olympics have shown to me that Amihere can take over the game at a moment's notice. When everything is clicking she's a nightmare for our opponents and I really hope this is the year it finally all comes together for her.

As for Cardoso, I know this won't be a popular opinion here but she could become the #1 pick in the draft. I think we've only seen the beginning of what she can do at Syracuse and with the right improvements she could be truly a game changer. Especially since you can't teach 6'7.
 
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This year is Amihere’s audition for the starting spot next year IMHO. I love Amihere but she hasn’t earned it up to this point. If her junior goes as her postseason went last year then she’s no doubt the forward starter next year. Cardoso will still be Boston’s backup next year most likely because the post is ALL hers the following year.. and she’ll likely be a top 3 pick coming out.

I think Amihere has to figure out how to do less.

She gets herself into such trouble offensively sometimes just trying to do too much without really feeling where she is on the court in relation to everyone else and all too often the basket itself.

I feel like much of her offense isn't so much within the flow as it is Amihere deciding it is time to make an iso play. You need to be really efficient and consistent finishing if that is what you are going to do.
 
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Watching first half of the Final Four in background. I forgot how much South Carolina jumped on them early and then sputtered near the end of the quarter. And then went 9 minutes without a bucket. I think depth played into that. Boston played the first 9 minutes and most of the 2nd Quarter as well.
 

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SC has a tremendous basketball program, but first and foremost kids want to play. Dawn's calls to parents are preemptive in nature. Perhaps Dawn has heard some grumbling from a player or players and/or their parents. Some very talented kids, that could start for many teams in the country, aren't going to be getting much PT. The fall semester is going to end in a month or so and players can transfer and be immediately eligible.

For a kid like Amihere, she's looking at 2 more years behind Boston & 3 more years behind Cardoso. She may never crack the starting lineup at SC. I doubt that was her assumption when she decided to attend SC.
From what I saw from Amihere in international play, she will have lots of playing time.
 

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From what I saw from Amihere in international play, she will have lots of playing time.
Dawn has 3 post players, 4 if you include Saxton. She also has a bunch of talented wings and guards. Like everyone else in college basketball, she has 200 minutes per game to allocate.

Last season, when SC did not have Cardoso or nearly as deep a roster as this season, Amihere’s PT against UConn was 12:25. I find it difficult to believe she will get more PT in big games this season with SC’s loaded roster.
 
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Dawn has 3 post players, 4 if you include Saxton. She also has a bunch of talented wings and guards. Like everyone else in college basketball, she has 200 minutes per game to allocate.

Last season, when SC did not have Cardoso or nearly as deep a roster as this season, Amihere’s PT against UConn was 12:25. I find it difficult to believe she will get more PT in big games this season with SC’s loaded roster.
She got significant PT in tonight’s big game. And Boston got significant rest until the last 5 minutes when she worked
 

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She got significant PT in tonight’s big game. And Boston got significant rest until the last 5 minutes when she worked
Saw that. Dawn went 10 deep tonight and her finishing 5 was Boston, Amihere, Beal, Henderson & Cook.
 
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This isn't something new that Dawn does and she does it a few times a year. This is a family commitment and she's very upfront with all of them during recruiting. As for Feagin, Aliyah has really taken her under her wing. I think she will be fine. Feagin wasn't the only one impacted by Kamilla. Amihere is going to feel the most impact I think.
Amihere minutes will go up this year, not down, she will play more minutes than Saxton at the 4. Kamilla will pull two duties, first she will spell Boston at the 5 for 15-18 min a game and she will also play the 5 when Dawn slips Boston to the 4 spot. There will be some lineups occasionally that include Amihere, Kamilla and Boston, but not often as Dawn is inclined to be more guard heavy than frontcourt heavy. It depends on the opponent. I think Rivers eventually takes some of the 3 spot minutes from Beal as the season progresses, she is way more dynamic offensively, just needs to convince the HC her D and passing are ready for the show.

Amihere is ready to ball out this year.
 
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Not trying to get all in SC business here but... Has this ever really been a problem for Dawn prior to this season? There are 16 players on the roster because of the COVID rule. Even when A'Ja Wilson and Alaina Coates were coming off the bench and you high level recruits such as Jatarie White also sitting Dawn found a way to find minutes for all of them.
One other question: Do you believe a healthy redshirt year is being considered as part of managing the SC roster this season?
I do. It’s been that way at places like UCONN for quite awhile. I’m not talking about recruits like Paige or Azzi or Katy Lou or Breanna. UCONN gets a bunch of those generational talents that always play right away, but many of their highly ranked recruits have always bided their time and came out the better for it.

SC is just now having to learn how teams like UCONN have managed these situations and developed that youth in spite of limited playing time. It’s not the first time for SC, but relatively speaking, it’s not common most years outside of the past 2-3 seasons. This year’s freshman class elevates that challenge.
I think a few players are finding themselves in uncertain territory, like Russell. She is a great player but the Most recent class and now Cooper and soon Fulwiley (fingers crossed) might be sending her a message….if any leave, she would be the first IMO, but I am just speculating.
 
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Dawn has 3 post players, 4 if you include Saxton. She also has a bunch of talented wings and guards. Like everyone else in college basketball, she has 200 minutes per game to allocate.

Last season, when SC did not have Cardoso or nearly as deep a roster as this season, Amihere’s PT against UConn was 12:25. I find it difficult to believe she will get more PT in big games this season with SC’s loaded roster.
She did in the NCSU game last night. I don’t believe she came out in the 4th, she has taken a step in her game, and tbh, she is the hardest player on the SC roster to defend when she plays like she is now. Her minutes are going up.
I realize Edwards starts for UCONN at the 4, but if we compare 4’s, Edwards is a world above Saxton at that spot in production. When Amihere plays the 4 for SC, it is not a reach to say she has a similar impact as Edwards, so I expect Amihere minutes to increase all season, even if she does not start and is the “sixth man”. Dawn isn’t stupid, it’s why Amihere played in crunch time last night, she is special like Edwards. Amihere may be the best pure athlete in WBB this season, my god she can sky.
 
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I do. It’s been that way at places like UCONN for quite awhile. I’m not talking about recruits like Paige or Azzi or Katy Lou or Breanna. UCONN gets a bunch of those generational talents that always play right away, but many of their highly ranked recruits have always bided their time and came out the better for it.

SC is just now having to learn how teams like UCONN have managed these situations and developed that youth in spite of limited playing time. It’s not the first time for SC, but relatively speaking, it’s not common most years outside of the past 2-3 seasons. This year’s freshman class elevates that challenge.
I think a few players are finding themselves in uncertain territory, like Russell. She is a great player but the Most recent class and now Cooper and soon Fulwiley (fingers crossed) might be sending her a message….if any leave, she would be the first IMO, but I am just speculating.
When you say: "It’s been that way at places like UCONN for quite awhile." I'm assuming you mean managing transfer and large rosters and not redshirting a healthy player. UCONN has not had a healthy eligible player redshirt since Heather Buck in the 2008-09 season. Even Heather's situation then and her ultimate decision to redshirt was partly due to her contracting mononucleosis and missing the first 5 games of the season.
 
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When you say: "It’s been that way at places like UCONN for quite awhile." I'm assuming you mean managing transfer and large rosters and not redshirting a healthy player. UCONN has not had a healthy eligible player redshirt since Heather Buck in the 2008-09 season. Even Heather's situation then and her ultimate decision to redshirt was partly due to her contracting mononucleosis and missing the first 5 games of the season.
Exactly. I don’t expect Rivers or Johnson to redshirt, prob not Feagin either, but managing their PT is the question, and getting them to develop without a bunch of PT. The SC freshmen will need to learn that lesson as many UCONN highly rated players have done so in the past.
In many seasons, most actually, Geno has traditionally relied upon 8 players for the majority of the team’s minutes. That always leaves 5-6 players basically biding their time even if they don’t redshirt.
 
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Exactly. I don’t expect Rivers or Johnson to redshirt, prob not Feagin either, but managing their PT is the question, and getting them to develop without a bunch of PT. The SC freshmen will need to learn that lesson as many UCONN highly rated players have done so in the past.
In many seasons, most actually, Geno has traditionally relied upon 8 players for the majority of the team’s minutes. That always leaves 5-6 players basically biding their time even if they don’t redshirt.

UConn has 14 today but you have to back a ways to find more than a dozen scholarship players
 

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