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BigErnMcCracken said:
You've had sources that told you a dozen things over the years. Virtually none of them have actually happened. You're going to get lucky one of these days; a broken clock and all that.
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Show me. My best prediction was in August of 2011 when I said Drummond would enroll in a few weeks - no one else predicted that - many thought he would the following year. As for this prediction Boatshow and Daniels going pro we will know soon enough. If you knew who my source is you would laugh and still not believe it.
 
Chief00 said:
You need to learn how to read. I never said Calhoun was going to BC. I said he was interested in the job. Two different things. BC did not have sufficient interest in him.
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So when i said "You claimed to have sources that Calhoun had serious interest in the job" how was I wrong? And why am I the one who need to learn how to read?

Stop listening to the voices in your head, they are not sources.
 
Jerry1714 said:
So when i said "You claimed to have sources that Calhoun had serious interest in the job" how was I wrong? And why am I the one who need to learn how to read?

Stop listening to the voices in your head, they are not sources.
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Yes, you were wrong.
 
Chief, I'm not looking to pile on here but you were claiming to know all kinds of inside information during the Nate Miles fiasco. I seem to recall on multiple occasions you said there was more information yet to come out and when it did all would be well. Uh, that didn't happen.
 
djct1999 said:
It seems that all his life Boat wanted to get a paycheck playing hoops. Can't begrudge him for that. I find it a bit crazy to actually believe he will play himself into next year's first round. He is an older, 5'10 tweener. So what is Boat's real upside of coming back? Of course, his degree and another run in the tourney. But if he really wants to get paid overseas, he should go now, coming off an unbelievable last month of the season.
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At 5'10" there is nothing "tweener" about him, he has but one position to play. I think Napier greatly increased his draft stock this season. Boatright may not have the same upside but I think as the focal point of the offense he could at least get himself into a position to be drafted. Staying would also get him a lot closer to a degree. He is not likely to make enough playing overseas to just kick back after his professional career is over after 8-10 years. The degree would help a lot with his life after basketball.

I think he should stay, its the best choice from a basketball and non-basketball standpoint but I wish him the best whichever he chooses.
 
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Peacefrog said:
Chief, I'm not looking to pile on here but you were claiming to know all kinds of inside information during the Nate Miles fiasco. I seem to recall on multiple occasions you said there was more information yet to come out and when it did all would be well. Uh, that didn't happen.[/quote
With Nate there were two different issues - appropriate punishment for sexual he said/she said with subsequent restraining order violation and the other issue was NCAA violations. The NCAA violations from a particular standpoint made the outcome on the other matter irrelevant.
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Imagine if I was wrong on this how much you would pile on? Unless something changes I am right and the usual suspects with no sources of their own say things that aren't true or logical. You say I was wrong about something I never said. Quite frankly, I don't care what you think - I don't think you can process an issue more complex than what day is it?
 
Peacefrog said:
Chief, I'm not looking to pile on here but you were claiming to know all kinds of inside information during the Nate Miles fiasco. I seem to recall on multiple occasions you said there was more information yet to come out and when it did all would be well. Uh, that didn't happen.
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The first issue with Nate (appropriate punishment for sexual she said/he said with subsequent restraining order violation) was the issue I referred to. However, later an NCAA issue (accepting impermissible benefits) came out. Because of that it made pursuing the 1st issue irrelevant. I know some on this board have trouble processing these nuances and timelines but that's what happened.
 
Chief00 said:
The first issue with Nate (appropriate punishment for s e xual she said/he said with subsequent restraint order violation) was the issue I referred to. However, later an NCAA issue (accepting impermissible benefits) came out. Because of that it made pursuing the 1st issue irrelevant. I know some on this board have trouble processing these nuances and timelines but that's what happened.
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You're completely incoherent. You almost have to respect it. Nothing makes me laugh more than when you start a post with "A lot of people have been asking me to break down [some basketball issue that no one has asked you to break down]. " Just hilarious.

It's not exactly going out on a limb to think that Boatright and Daniels are gone, and you don't need "sources" for that.
 
Peacefrog said:
At 5'10" there is nothing "tweener" about him, he has but one position to play. I think Napier greatly increased his draft stock this season. Boatright may not have the same upside but I think as the focal point of the offense he could at least get himself into a position to be drafted. Staying would also get him a lot closer to a degree. He is not likely to make enough playing overseas to just kick back after his professional career is over after 8-10 years. The degree would help a lot with his life after basketball.
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Not going to argue with the principle, but he can make enough overseas to be set (several million). He can get his degree at any time (please leave in good standing, please leave in good standing). Tony Robertson and Taliek came back recently to get their degrees.
 
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BigErnMcCracken said:
You're completely incoherent. You almost have to respect it. Nothing makes me laugh more than when you start a post with "A lot of people have been asking me to break down [some basketball issue that no one has asked you to break down]. " Just hilarious.

It's not exactly going out on a limb to think that Boatright and Daniels are gone, and you don't need "sources" for that.
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The best part is, "unless something changes I am right". How can you ever be wrong?
 
Predictions:
- DD leaves and it's disappointing and a marginally bad decision (drafted 33rd)
- Boat leaves and it's disappointing and an abysmal decision (drafted 55th)
 
Tenspro2002 said:
Predictions:
- DD leaves and it's disappointing and a marginally bad decision (drafted 33rd)
- Boat leaves and it's disappointing and an abysmal decision (drafted 55th)
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If Boat leaves I would be really surprised if he is drafted (I hope I am wrong though)
 
Tenspro2002 said:
Predictions:
- DD leaves and it's disappointing and a marginally bad decision (drafted 33rd)
- Boat leaves and it's disappointing and an abysmal decision (drafted 55th)
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For his sake I hope its not the case but I just don't see how Boat is drafted, if he did it wouldn't be an abysmal decision because even if he returns he's not going higher than 2nd round next year. the precedent for guys like him getting drafted 1st round just isn't really there, Nate Rob isn't like these other guys, he's even more athletic than the rest.
 
aceboon said:
For his sake I hope its not the case but I just don't see how Boat is drafted, if he did it wouldn't be an abysmal decision because even if he returns he's not going higher than 2nd round next year. the precedent for guys like him getting drafted 1st round just isn't really there, Nate Rob isn't like these other guys, he's even more athletic than the rest.
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But he'd have a chance of being drafted. Most second rounders make a team, at least for a year
 
Huskyforlife said:
But he'd have a chance of being drafted. Most second rounders make a team, at least for a year
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? I'm on the side that Boat should return because he would put himself in a better position to be drafted...
 
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Boatright is a perfect example of why players should be allowed to test the NBA waters and get feedback. It's a damn shame they can't.
 
aceboon said:
? I'm on the side that Boat should return because he would put himself in a better position to be drafted...
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It sounded like you were saying he shouldn't come back cause the highest he could be drafted is second round. My bad
 
I will not be posting in the NBA. Coming back to the boneyard in 2014!!!!
ktuck911 said:
I say BoatShow ends up staying.. Not too certain about De'Andre... He showed a lot of folks what he is capable of on the basketball court in the tournament. I wish he stays though...

If they both stay, we got a shot at 'Shocking the World" again...
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Now back to the issue at hand. They both are leaving, could a 20 year old change their mind? of course - but not likely in this case.
It doesn't really matter what you want them to do - you can shoot the messenger but that won't change things.
When I posted my first post in this thread the prevailing sentiment was that he was staying; since then it's been more of a split.
The coaches have been out recruiting hard and that's where they should be.
Quite frankly, I agree Boat might be able to show he can run a team if he came back, I don't know but maybe he doesn't want that responsibility - more likely it's about money or fools gold depending what you think.
 
Chief00 said:
When I posted my first post in this thread the prevailing sentiment was that he was staying; since then it's been more of a split.
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Hahaha, converting the masses, huh? You are certifiable. I love it.
 
Chief00 said:
Now back to the issue at hand. They both are leaving, could a 20 year old change their mind? of course - but not likely in this case.
It doesn't really matter what you want them to do - you can shoot the messenger but that won't change things.
When I posted my first post in this thread the prevailing sentiment was that he was staying; since then it's been more of a split.
The coaches have been out recruiting hard and that's where they should be.
Quite frankly, I agree Boat might be able to show he can run a team if he came back, I don't know but maybe he doesn't want that responsibility - more likely it's about money or fools gold depending what you think.
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You are certifiable.

You have changed no ones mind, people were simply discussing if they went.

After the Calhoun/BC nonsense most people would chill out with their "sources" but not you. Hey one day you will be right, out of blind luck, but you will be right.
 
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Peacefrog said:
At 5'10" there is nothing "tweener" about him, he has but one position to play. I think Napier greatly increased his draft stock this season. Boatright may not have the same upside but I think as the focal point of the offense he could at least get himself into a position to be drafted. Staying would also get him a lot closer to a degree. He is not likely to make enough playing overseas to just kick back after his professional career is over after 8-10 years. The degree would help a lot with his life after basketball.

I think he should stay, its the best choice from a basketball and non-basketball standpoint but I wish him the best whichever he chooses.
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By tweeer, I mean a 5'10 2-guard who needs to play the point.
 
Has anyone seen Jahii Carson play and can compare their games? He's about the same size as Boat I think and projected as 2nd round talent.
 
Clockshop said:
Has anyone seen Jahii Carson play and can compare their games? He's about the same size as Boat I think and projected as 2nd round talent.
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Carson is miles ahead of regular season Boat, the postseason version of Boat closes the gap a lil but Carson is still better. Carson is even a better athlete than Boat because he doesn't require that "power up/loading period" before launching into the air that Boat needs. Better and more consistent shooter, better and more creative distributor(in fairness to Boat, Carson is the main PG and doesn't play in a dual PG system so he has more opportunities to create) and he has the shiftyness and change of direction tricks to free himself from defenders ala Bazz and Kemba. Boat has a bigtime edge in D but Carson also has way more responsibility handling the ball and creating offense so it would be alot to ask him to play full out on D as well. My boy is an Adidas rep and worked the Adidas Nations this summer and said Carson and Boat were matched up quite often during scrimmage sessions and Carson outplayed him by a pretty good margin.
 
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Poythress and Dakari Johnson are staying. I think DD is going to see this as an opportunity to leave. I was hoping every single one of these guys was going to declare, but there have been way too many surprise stay-in-schools.
 
Tenspro2002 said:
Poythress and Dakari Johnson are staying. I think DD is going to see this as an opportunity to leave. I was hoping every single one of these guys was going to declare, but there have been way too many surprise stay-in-schools.
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You think Poythress and Johnson are "surprise stay-in-schools"? Neither really did much this year to indicate they would go ahead of DD.
 
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