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I think y'all are projecting. I see nothing in her facial expression that would indicate fear or apprehension. The fact is, sometimes the damn ball just won't go through the hoop. If that occurs in a pressurized situation, then a lot of people immediately assume that the player choked under the pressure. 'Taint necessarily so". Lou missed a bunch of easy (for her, normally) shots early on; did she choke under the pressure of playing a team that we had previously beaten by 40+?
 
Danger, as I have written often, was my preseason Uconn Freshman to excel beyond expectations then came a concussion (again, is she really over this??),
You keep bringing this up. Yes, she is over the concussion. If she still had lingering effects from the concussion (headaches, unable to focus, blurred vision, etc.) she would not be cleared to play. That's what the concussion protocol is for. If you get through the concussion protocol, then yes you are over the concussion.
 
Most of us think Crystal will be just fine, and that her play so far is not unexpected, given the UConn system. At some point next year, she will be running the finest offense in all of basketball and we will be amazed by her court play.

I'm thinking that the thread on where to park tonight at the XL Center is now more exciting. :)
 
Of course I appreciate Geno, the coaching staff, and the whole program. I would not have evev been upset if they had lost to Tulane given the way huskies shot the ball. Any team can have a horrible shooting night. I just find it hard to believe that Geno is not looking for a way to either motivate or inspire self motivation to improve her consistency and play.
What exactly do you mean by that?
 
For those of you ( and it's seems very few) who watched the Geno show, we know Geno laid out pretty clearly what Dangerfield's "problem" is. Her maturity is not up to the same level as her talent (which is pretty damn high according to Geno). He said she need to grow up. When her maturity does catch up to her talent, then you're gonna see something. She's gonna be as Geno would say, really, really good.
 
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Only two reallys, Meyers
I think some on here are the ones who use more than 2. Geno mostly keeps it to 1 or 2.

I'd be very happy with a Gen0's "really, really good" player. ;)
 
[mod edit: Removed knock on the board #2. Don't let there be a third. Just state your opinion.] But , since you ask about Stewie ? Stewie was actually having quite a decent freshman season, until Geno decided he didn't like something in practice . At this stage of her freshman season, she was light years ahead of Danger. She was also being physically manhandled . March is a few days away, and I seriously doubt the coaching staff is treating Danger as a " poor little freshman " any longer. Yes, she has missed a couple games because of an injury. I am looking at basketball, and separating it from the " emotional " thing.

During this past summer, I wrote comments regarding Crystal, and the inevitable comparisons to Moriah Jefferson that were sure to be made during the upcoming season. I didn't need any envelopes, crystal balls, or tea leaves to see that one coming. I suggested that any comparison to Moriah was unfair. She was going to be compared to the Moriah Jefferson we saw in her junior and senior year; because those are the most recent images we have of her. We all know Jefferson was not the player her freshman year that she was during her junior and senior years. Moriah struggled big time during her freshman year. Moriah got progressively better each year, as Dangerfield will. Crystal is much better today than she was back in October.

Dangerfield still has a lot to learn. As another poster commented, being the point guard at UConn is not easy. So many thoughts come to mind here, I could write a novel, but I'll keep it short. Another poster commented that in the final stages of the Tulane game (at the free throw line), she had the look of a deer in the headlights. She did. This was the first time she's been in a game at this level with the game possibly riding her making her free throws. How many times have we seen seasoned veterans miss free throws in that situation? I hope I don't sound like I'm making excuses for Crystal, I'm not. I'm just reminding everyone that Crystal is still a work in progress, and it can't be rushed.

Let's not forget, she did make a huge play at the end of the game, she stole the inbound pass and was fouled going to the basket. Which IMHO should have been called an intentional foul (2 shots and retain possession out of bounds). The player grabbed her from behind in an attempt to stop her. Most refs don't have the stones to make that call in that situation.

When asked in an interview about being compared to Jefferson, she said that she was not going to try and be like Moriah. She said that she and Moriah were two different players. She can only be who she is, and will try to be the best player that she can be. It was no secret that Dangerfield was brought in to replace Jefferson, so the obvious comparisons are not surprising. I also predicted that the comparisons would continue into her sophomore year. So far, it looks like I was right.

It's not easy playing for Geno because of the expectation of near perfection is always present. Remember what Gabby said at the beginning of her sophomore year? She said that now, she knows what she's doing, and where she is supposed to be on either end of the floor. She said last year, that was not the case. I suspect Crystal will have a similar revelation this fall.

Finally, I completely agree and with, and endorse the responses by Bags 27, tonehill68 & oldude. As tonehill68 wrote: "My final point is even though she has the accolades from AAU and USA tournament ball, playing college is a different game and she'll adjust". oldude said "Let's give Danger a break. She's doing fine and she will be a great player before she's done at UConn". Bags27 put it best..........."patience".
 
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Like a lot of posters, being a very long time husky fan , I tend to be a lot tougher criticizing men's basketball than women's. Why? [mod edit: removed knock on the board #1] When I watch our ladies play, I try and separate what my eyes see from " my attachment " to this team. I think it is high time Dangerfield begins to start playing to a " higher " standard ! She came into the program as the highest rated point guard, with a long list of USA basketball and hs credentials. We see a few flashes of " brilliance ", and suddenly everyone go OOH , AAH ! THEN I watch Destiny Slocum ! Enough said. Danger was put in a highly pressurized , end of game situation against tulane, really for the first time. Totally different situation than against Baylor. The look on Danger's face at the line against Tulane, was that of an Fear/AWAKENING . The next couple of weeks will be make or break her as far as this season goes , and how she is utilized during the tournament !

Was Crystal emerging from a dream against Baylor? How could a freshman play any better than Dangerfield that night? As for breaking a recruit before the rebuilding can start, I don't know about that psychology. She has the skills and seemed to be brilliant when she wasn't thinking about anything but delivering the goods. And she delivered, bank shots, perimeter bombs, great passes, a step ahead of the defense.
whatever her time table, Danger will get there and I agree, tonight would be okay.
 
Collier was a failure as a starter last year, but is doing OK this year. Gabby hasn't played in a single losing game at UConn, because the last loss she was so bad as a freshman that Geno didn't trust her on the floor for a single minute. Playing at UConn is tough as a freshman. Stewart, one of the best players ever to play in college wasn't the best freshman during her first year. And DT had an absolute zero of a game at the FF her freshman year, but turned out OK. Maya I believe is the only UConn player in over a decade to be deemed the best freshman in the country.
Crystal Dangerfield is going to be fine. Whether she 'arrives' at fine this year is still up in the air. And she has had a tougher freshman year from an injury standpoint than most players coming through UConn. Hard to be stop and start through the first three months when you're still trying to figure it out.
 
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Long time---come on, you as I were not Shocked to see Danger have issues under pressure at the end of the game---did you look at the performances of the rest of the team prior to that?/ They all were not living up to expectation--and looked often bewildered when all those easy layups and 3's failed to go in.

I wasn't shocked---I saw the look on her face--I did hope for better--but she was the target of the Tulane coach in crunch time--she knew Freshmen with limited playing time are the weakest links at crunch time--and so do you and I. No shock.

I honestly think Dangerfield is going to be fine. I doubt any freshman pg could go to play for Auriemma and be stellar out of the gate. Next year you guys will see the speedy, crisp passing and electric Dangerfield that we all saw in High school. That said the point guards of the future is going to be Dangerfield, Slocum, Harris, and Sutton. Those four are the most composed and talented point guards that I've seen this year and I expect their games to get much better over the next few years.
 
I know it's not the same position, but Tina Charles (not just as a freshman, but also as a sophomore and even the early part of her junior year) was another example of someone whose maturity did not catch up to her talent until she had almost graduated from UConn. She was the one who inspired the comment from Geno about Carl Sagan -- that telling Tina something was like speaking to someone in a distant galaxy who was light-years away. The message wouldn't be received until the light passed through that entire distance, and that some day when Tina was married and had children, she would come back and tell Geno that she finally understood what he had told her when she was at UConn.

I'm realize not all of that has occurred yet, but that memorable analogy proved to have a lot of validity in Tina's case, and I suspect the same thing will play out in Crystal's case.

And Moriah as a freshman was not way ahead of where Crystal is now (if she was ahead at all). Crystal is being depended on to help win key games in a way that Moriah never was as a freshman (when Bria, Kelly, and Caroline were the first three guards in the depth chart).
 
SWK had 29 points... they needed their bench to step up but it didn't and tOSU bench outscored theirs 27-7.
SWK didn't score 27 against Connecticut, which is the game I was referring to in the original comment.
 
And Dangerfield played like an AA against Baylor. Sooo.???
The comment was about how Slocum played in the tOSU as opposed to how she played in the Connecticut game, hence my response. The knee-jerk defensive response of this fanbase is hilarious. Both are freshmen and have experienced highs and lows, it happens with most of them.
 
Crystal is a freshman.
Crystal plays the most important position for UConn - point guard.
Crystal plays for the most demanding coach for point guards - Geno. Ask Sue, Jenn, Renee, Caroline, Moriah and others.
 
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One thing not mentioned about Moriah, even as a Freshman: she was a heck of a defensive player. Dangerfield is not at this time. She was beaten in many different ways in the Tulane and other games. Moriah made things happen on the defensive end right from the beginning. By the 2nd half of the year I was already a big Moriah fan and felt she should have gotten more playing time in front of Caroline Doty, who was playing on one leg by that time and largely inefective. In her freshman year Moriah played 17 min/game and had 52 steals. Crystal has 18 steals this year in 23 min/game. The late steal the other night was the result of great defense against inbounding the ball where Tulane wanted to pass it.
 
Collier was a failure as a starter last year, but is doing OK this year. Gabby hasn't played in a single losing game at UConn, because the last loss she was so bad as a freshman that Geno didn't trust her on the floor for a single minute. Playing at UConn is tough as a freshman. Stewart, one of the best players ever to play in college wasn't the best freshman during her first year. And DT had an absolute zero of a game at the FF her freshman year, but turned out OK. Maya I believe is the only UConn player in over a decade to be deemed the best freshman in the country.
Crystal Dangerfield is going to be fine. Whether she 'arrives' at fine this year is still up in the air. And she has had a tougher freshman year from an injury standpoint than most players coming through UConn. Hard to be stop and start through the first three months when you're still trying to figure it out.
Just curious UCM, how many games did Collier start last year? I don't recall many.
 
This points to a really, really interesting phenomenon. UConn recruits extremely highly ranked high school players who, in their early UConn careers, often seem to underperform other highly recruited players at other colleges. Perhaps UConn's recruits just aren't as good? Well, no, because by the time they graduate they're All-Americans.

It may be therefore that there's method in Geno's madness. That he's investing a year or more in breaking down his players and rebuilding them into champions. Sure, they're also under more stress (and miss foul shots) because they're not playing in their comfort zone--which in high school was to be the star. But eventually virtually all of them seem to make the transition to being cogs in a well-oiled machine and, as well, All-Americans in their own right.

Patience!
Lou's performance and development is a good example of what you describe.
 
Was Crystal emerging from a dream against Baylor? How could a freshman play any better than Dangerfield that night? As for breaking a recruit before the rebuilding can start, I don't know about that psychology. She has the skills and seemed to be brilliant when she wasn't thinking about anything but delivering the goods. And she delivered, bank shots, perimeter bombs, great passes, a step ahead of the defense.
whatever her time table, Danger will get there and I agree, tonight would be okay.
The REAL Danger showed up for the Baylor game---then the REAL Danger had Concussion and foot issues--plus limited PT---if the concussion didn't do current damage--the more than REAL Danger shall arrive again.
 
For those of you ( and it's seems very few) who watched the Geno show, we know Geno laid out pretty clearly what Dangerfield's "problem" is. Her maturity is not up to the same level as her talent (which is pretty damn high according to Geno). He said she need to grow up. When her maturity does catch up to her talent, then you're gonna see something. She's gonna be as Geno would say, really, really good.
i'm glad Geno isn't working with me---since I never had a truly dependable definition for MATURITY--I just got old. That elusive Maturity never did catch up.
 
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Just curious UCM, how many games did Collier start last year? I don't recall many.
I believe no more than five or six. There was a write up here in the St. Louis Post Dispatch about her starting. About three days later, she was out of the starting lineup.
 
Napheesa Collier:

Played in all 38 games for the Huskies and started in nine contests … Seventh on the team at 6.8 points per game and fourth on the squad at 5.2 rebounds per game in only 17.2 minutes per contest … Shot a solid 53.3 percent from the floor and a nearly-automatic 91.7 percent from the free throw line … Tied with Kia Nurse for the fourth-most steals on the squad with 50

UCONNHUSKIES.COM :: Napheesa Collier Bio :: University of Connecticut Huskies Official Athletic Site :: Women's Basketball
 
You keep bringing this up. Yes, she is over the concussion. If she still had lingering effects from the concussion (headaches, unable to focus, blurred vision, etc.) she would not be cleared to play. That's what the concussion protocol is for. If you get through the concussion protocol, then yes you are over the concussion.

---the medical community can only work with what they have have the experience and knowledge to see within the the body today--some medical issues have no tests that show deep down brain damage. With the IED's and the Military pulling in experts --those test may be coming sooner than other wise.
I agree that the protocol, with the knowledge currently used, lists those things you have --you are not necessarily over the concussion--you are allowed to play . Way too many people I knew who who played soccer and football--and work related head injuries--have died of brain related issue.
The medical community wasn't aware of them until the final symptoms arrived. I don't take head bumps lightly.
 
Crystal is a freshman.
Crystal plays the most important position for UConn - point guard.
Crystal plays for the most demanding coach for point guards - Geno. Ask Sue, Jenn, Renee, Caroline, Moriah and others.

Yep, even the mighty Sue couldn't measure up to Geno's standards— if anything goes wrong on offense, he told her, you, as the point guard, are responsible— and she left at least practice in tears. Plus, UConn offense is not a strict pattern, like learning a dance step with diagrams on the floor. The point guard, more than anyone else has to read the defense, know her teamates habits and strengths and liabilities, guage the speed of cuts, etc etc. That takes time, lots of time, lots of experience, and a high level of basketball intelligence.

Easy enough for armchair coaches to measure players and find them wanting, and it's especially wearing when such coaches seem at times to be offended that a player doesn't measure up to their standard. I wish Geno could invite such sharp-edged souls to suit up for a single UConn practice. That would be an experience, no?
 
SWK didn't score 27 against Connecticut, which is the game I was referring to in the original comment.
Okay sorry I got a little confused because you said Charles was in foul trouble in the Connecticut game but she wasn't. She was in foul trouble in the Oh St game.
 
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