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Was this expected or a surprise? What other schools was she considering? Nice pickup for L'ville!!
 
Was this expected or a surprise? What other schools was she considering? Nice pickup for L'ville!!

Tennessee and Purdue. Lady Vol fans expected her to commit to them.. heck, I even thought she was going to Tennessee.

This isn't a complete surprise (especially when you consider Hayes commitment to Tennessee) but because of the ample opportunities to play available in the next few years a lot of people still had hope for Evans.
 
So how many kids are there on Louisville's roster now? Next year? Next?

Walsh is a great recruiter, but is he really helping these kids if he's packing his bench?
 
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So how many kids are there on Louisville's roster now? Next year? Next?

Walsh is a great recruiter, but is he really helping these kids if he's packing his bench?
Some people are super critical of the way Walsh recruits but frankly, I have no issue with it. I also have no issue with kids getting "recruited over" or recruiting more than 1 kid for a position. The kids who practice, develop, and ultimately play the best will the ones who get the majority of the minutes. If the lesser minute folks don't like it, they can transfer to a school that will afford them more PT.

Geno always talks about treating his team like "basketball players", not like girls or women. This is not T-league where it should be equal opportunity for everyone. And for the record, I have complete respect for any kid who transfers after giving it a shot at UCONN. Ekmark gave it 2 years and realized she was always going to be a role player buried deep on the bench while at UCONN so she opted for closer to home at a program where she should get more PT.

Banks went to Penn State and was one of the top scorers. Johnson went to Wisconsin and was one of their top scorers. Edwards went to USC and was one of their top scorers. All these kids, to one extent or another, were buried (sometimes at the end) on the UCONN bench and weren't likely to see their PT ever increase. Geno recruited over and around them. He got kids who were better, and those 3 just weren't getting the PT they wanted.

I TOTALLY respect their decisions to leave, as I do for Samarie and EDD. Those last 2 left for very personal reasons that had nothing to do with PT. I can't speak for Boykin but got the feeling UCONN was just too much and too intense for her (but there were numerous reports that she really wanted to be closer to home, and Penn State is closer to Maryland than UCONN is), so I'm not sure either way.

Point is that I have no issue with Walz, nor Mulkey, nor any other coach who wants to have 14 or 15 kids on their roster. These kids get recruited by many colleges and they get plenty of time to make their best decision at the time. It's certainly no mystery when a kid is joining a team that already has 13 kids on it and she's #14.
 
Some people are super critical of the way Walsh recruits but frankly, I have no issue with it. I also have no issue with kids getting "recruited over" or recruiting more than 1 kid for a position. The kids who practice, develop, and ultimately play the best will the ones who get the majority of the minutes. If the lesser minute folks don't like it, they can transfer to a school that will afford them more PT.

Point is that I have no issue with Walz, nor Mulkey, nor any other coach who wants to have 14 or 15 kids on their roster. These kids get recruited by many colleges and they get plenty of time to make their best decision at the time. It's certainly no mystery when a kid is joining a team that already has 13 kids on it and she's #14.

I agree with your basic assertion but remember that some coaches try to sell these recruits by making promises about playing time and where they will play on the court and then stick the player at the end of the bench as soon as something shinier comes along..................ultimately it's up to the player and her family to make an honest assessment of their abilities and match that to a team that can really use their skills to the maximum...................
 
Tennessee and Purdue. Lady Vol fans expected her to commit to them.. heck, I even thought she was going to Tennessee.

This isn't a complete surprise (especially when you consider Hayes commitment to Tennessee) but because of the ample opportunities to play available in the next few years a lot of people still had hope for Evans.

Once Anastasia Hayes committed, TN fans were not surprised to see Evans go elsewhere. The Lady Vols have Cooper and Hayes that will play 3 years together.
 
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I have no idea who Bill Walsh of basketball is, but I think about 99% of college wbb fans across the country want their coach to become an Auriemma, not a Bill Walsh.

Jeff Walz is entering his tenth year. Auriemma won his first championship in his tenth year. Auriemma never made it to the NCAA until his forth year. Jeff Walz was there in his first year and played for the championship in his second year. Jeff Walz took two teams to the national championship game in his first nine years.

Jeff Walz has never had anything like the overall quality of players on any one team that has been normal for Auriemma since 1995, but he's getting there this year for the first time.

Perhaps a better evaluation of Jeff Walz can be made in the next two or three years. Yet, the game and quality of competition Walz is facing now that his team has arrived in player quality is arguably better than what Auriemma faced when he won his first title in 1995. Much of that is due to Auriemma and UConn, plus Tennessee and what she did. Many athletic programs, including Tom Jurich and Louisville, wanted to become a UConn or Tennessee. Louisville has aimed more at UConn.

You can criticize Walz all you want, but you guys have watched him develop and if you're honest you must admit Louisville is likely best set to become the new best challenge to Auriemma. You would also have to admit were Auriemma to retire anytime soon, Jeff Walz's name would be at the top or very near the top of the list for the new UConn coach. But, he's unavailable, even to UConn. ;-)
 
Jeff is a very good coach who has had a lot of success. We tease about his plaid shirt and wide net approach to recruiting.

I would say that Louisville is poised to be one of the challengers to UConn--but not the primary challenger.
 
Louisville has aimed more at UConn.

The Wire - You Come At the King, You Best Not Miss.

Louisville has really really bad aim!




You can criticize Walz all you want…

No worries we will!


…., but you guys have watched him develop and if you're honest you must admit Louisville is likely best set to become the new best challenge to Auriemma.

Honestly” I never lie to myself, and neither should you. Dawn and Muffett are infinitely closer challengers


You would also have to admit were Auriemma to retire anytime soon, Jeff Walz's name would be at the top or very near the top of the list…...

Yes, Geno has said repeatedly that there will always be an openings at his restaurant, and you are right Jeff’s name is at the top of the list right behind those Duke Graduates.

But, he's unavailable, even to UConn. ;-)

Good to know, I’ll call over to Geno's Grill and cancel Jeff’s interview for that second shift waiter position.
 
G Dana Evans (2017) to Louisville

#3 ProspectsNation
#7 ASGR
#7 ESPN/Hoopgurlz
#7 Dan Olson Collegiate Girls Basketball Report

***Dan Olson also does the ESPN ratings

My predictions in June
Dana Evans to Luu-ah-vul Bingo! (This was the easier one)
Megan Walker to Notre Dame
Chennedy Carter to Baylor (the real #1 player in the country)
 
Are you kidding me? I respect the heck out of Ekmark too but it takes her two full years to figure she isn't going to get playing time? That was the case when she showed up for freshman orientation just like 90% of the other players who transfer from UConn. Sadie Edwards was rated higher and she knew it and got out of dodge fast to USC who can use her talents. Not saying who's right or wrong but if it's playing time you are after you're not smart being a second level recruit like Ekmark (based onHusky standards ) going to a school like UConn. Very predictable outcome you rot for two years. Ekmark overreached with UConn and will be great at Az State where she belonged in the first place.

Teniya Page #27 2015 class pg goes to Penn State plays 37 minutes a game freshman year 15 ppg, 4 apg
All Big Ten Second Team
Unanimous All Big Ten Freshman
Team was 6-24 With Page 12-19
 
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I had the wrong impression that Huskies weren't too great at their new teams after transferring but your post made me realize not the case. Johnson was really good. Banks not quite living up to expectations but good. The kid that went to Boston College yikes.

Edwards and Ekmark will do well. De’Janae Boykin will play with T. Page at Penn State in Spring 2017.
 
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I agree with your basic assertion but remember that some coaches try to sell these recruits by making promises about playing time and where they will play on the court and then stick the player at the end of the bench as soon as something shinier comes along...ultimately it's up to the player and her family to make an honest assessment of their abilities and match that to a team that can really use their skills to the maximum....

Well said!!!
 
Some people are super critical of the way Walsh recruits but frankly, I have no issue with it. I also have no issue with kids getting "recruited over" or recruiting more than 1 kid for a position. The kids who practice, develop, and ultimately play the best will the ones who get the majority of the minutes. If the lesser minute folks don't like it, they can transfer to a school that will afford them more PT.

Geno always talks about treating his team like "basketball players", not like girls or women. This is not T-league where it should be equal opportunity for everyone. And for the record, I have complete respect for any kid who transfers after giving it a shot at UCONN. Ekmark gave it 2 years and realized she was always going to be a role player buried deep on the bench while at UCONN so she opted for closer to home at a program where she should get more PT.

Banks went to Penn State and was one of the top scorers. Johnson went to Wisconsin and was one of their top scorers. Edwards went to USC and was one of their top scorers. All these kids, to one extent or another, were buried (sometimes at the end) on the UCONN bench and weren't likely to see their PT ever increase. Geno recruited over and around them. He got kids who were better, and those 3 just weren't getting the PT they wanted.

I TOTALLY respect their decisions to leave, as I do for Samarie and EDD. Those last 2 left for very personal reasons that had nothing to do with PT. I can't speak for Boykin but got the feeling UCONN was just too much and too intense for her (but there were numerous reports that she really wanted to be closer to home, and Penn State is closer to Maryland than UCONN is), so I'm not sure either way.

Point is that I have no issue with Walz, nor Mulkey, nor any other coach who wants to have 14 or 15 kids on their roster. These kids get recruited by many colleges and they get plenty of time to make their best decision at the time. It's certainly no mystery when a kid is joining a team that already has 13 kids on it and she's #14.

I have issues with any coach carrying 14 to 15 players. Geno can't keep 10-12 players happy. Players need to notice high roster numbers and be realistic about their chances of getting stuck like Taja Cole thought she did at Louisville. Don't go to a school with 15 freaking players if you aren't a can't miss player. Cole got 15 mpg, never looked comfortable or good for that matter and wanted to be the main cog so she chose Georgia. Probably a good move.
 
I've never agreed with the narrative that somehow Louisville hasn't had top talent. Angel is and was one of the top players on the planet. The Louisville team that lost in the Elite Eight on it's own home floor in 2014 had three players go to the WNBA that season. Not many college women's teams can ever say that. That was a strong roster.
 
Welcome. You have covered so much ground far too quickly.
I have issues with any coach carrying 14 to 15 players.
Sound like an issue with the NCAA not with the coaches.
Geno can't keep 10-12 players happy.
Nonsense! The 2008-09 UCONN roster included 14 Players, it would have been 15 if EDD had stayed. They were all pretty darn happy.
Players need to notice high roster numbers and be realistic about their chances of getting stuck like Taja Cole thought she did at Louisville. Don't go to a school with 15 freaking players if you aren't a can't miss player. Cole got 15 mpg, never looked comfortable or good for that matter and wanted to be the main cog so she chose Georgia. Probably a good move.
Fact check: Thank goodness that the players are more aware of the rosters size and playing time than you are. The roster that Taja signed on to at Louisville was 12 (including Taja). No one in the world (including Taja) would consider Taja a “can't miss player or a “main cog”. She will do well at Georgia but she could have done just at well at Louisville. It’s about the skill set not the size of the roster because guess how many players are on the Georgia roster?
 
and if you're honest you must admit Louisville is likely best set to become the new best challenge to Auriemma.

Louisville has yet to even make the ACC tournament final let alone win the ACC. And now they're the best challenge to UConn?

I think Lousiville should be worrying about FSU, Syracuse, and Notre Dame before they turn their sights on UConn.
 
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The NCAA allows 15 players yet people want to complain if a coach actually carriers 15 players. How about we ask coaches to start benching players for the remainder of a game after they pick up their 4th foul even though 5 fouls are the limit. It is not fair to those players sitting on the bench with 0 fouls to be played-over by players who obviously cannot play without fouling.

Complaining that a coach has the maximum number of players on the roster is ridiculous. How many other teams in other sports do we complain about carrying the maximum number of players? NBA? WNBA? MLB? NFL? MLS? NCAAF?
 
Welcome. You have covered so much ground far too quickly.

Sound like an issue with the NCAA not with the coaches.

Nonsense! The 2008-09 UCONN roster included 14 Players, it would have been 15 if EDD had stayed. They were all pretty darn happy.

Fact check: Thank goodness that the players are more aware of the rosters size and playing time than you are. The roster that Taja signed on to at Louisville was 12 (including Taja). No one in the world (including Taja) would consider Taja a “can't miss player or a “main cog”. She will do well at Georgia but she could have done just at well at Louisville. It’s about the skill set not the size of the roster because guess how many players are on the Georgia roster?
Facts always get in the way of a good rant. :mad:
 
I had the wrong impression that Huskies weren't too great at their new teams after transferring but your post made me realize not the case. Johnson was really good. Banks not quite living up to expectations but good. The kid that went to Boston College yikes. Edwards and Ekmark will do well. De’Janae Boykin will play with T. Page at Penn State in Spring 2017.
Fact Check: Sadie Edwards has already been eligible long enough to start 20 of 22 games and averaged over 30 mis per game at USC. She has shot the ball poorly 39% and 22% behind the arc. She had more turnover than assists (46 to 34).
De’Janae Boykin becomes eligible to play for PSU in January-that would be Winter of 2017.
Lauren Engeln transfer to BC was not Yikes! Her first year at BC she averaged 31 Minutes per game and started in all 31 BC games.
Lauren also shot the ball poorly 39% and 20% behind the arc.
 
Fact Check: Sadie Edwards has already been eligible long enough to start 20 of 22 games and averaged over 30 mis per game at USC. She has shot the ball poorly 39% and 22% behind the arc. She had more turnover than assists (46 to 34).
De’Janae Boykin becomes eligible to play for PSU in January-that would be Winter of 2017.
Lauren Engeln transfer to BC was not Yikes! Her first year at BC she averaged 31 Minutes per game and started in all 31 BC games.
Lauren also shot the ball poorly 39% and 20% behind the arc.

Ok lets get real nit picky. Winter is Spring Semester.
 
Louisville has yet to even make the ACC tournament final let alone win the ACC. And now they're the best challenge to UConn?

I think Lousiville should be worrying about FSU, Syracuse, and Notre Dame before they turn their sights on UConn.

Totally get the impulse to check hyperbole. So let me first just say: I ain't coming for anyone. Coming for someone would be contradictory to my ultimate point. No T no shade.

But unless speaking strictly chronologically (during a season a team will, as a calendrical fact, meet its conference opponents before meeting UCONN in the NCAAs), it's also hyperbolic to suggest a team "should be worrying" about winning conference titles before challenging for an NCAA title.

Since we're talking about Louisville, let's take Walz's 9 completed years as head coach as a sample for the following:

During those 9 years, 4 of the 9 NCAA runners-up won neither their conference regular season title nor their conference tournament title. We might say these teams "turn[ed] their sights on UCONN"--if by that phrase we mean they had the audacity to run with the big dog at the Final Four even though they were bereft of conference titles:

2016 Syracuse
2013 Louisville
2011 Notre Dame
2009 Louisville

As far as odds of challenging for the NCAA title while coming up empty in conference, 44% is not prohibitive.

In addition, during Walz's 9 completed years at Louisville, 3 of the 9 NCAA champions did not win their conference regular season title:

2013 UCONN (also didn't win its conference tournament)
2011 Texas A&M (also didn't win its conference tournament)
2008 Tenn (did win its conference tournament)

As far as odds of winning the NCAA title while coming up empty in conference (or only half full), 33% ain't the best but it's also not prohibitive. Interestingly, a shining example of the possibility of not just turning one's sights on the big prize but winning it without any conference titles is...UCONN (2013). Of course, for better or worse, UCONN doesn't put much stock on conference titles even when they win them.

I imagine most teams do worry about their conference opponents before worrying about challenging in the NCAAs. But perhaps only in terms of the calendar rather than as a logical prerequisite. I doubt for them winning conference titles feels necessary to challenging in the NCAAs. Or that it "should."

As we all know Walz was also part of the 2006 Maryland team that won neither its conference regular season nor its tournament titles. For Walz that would mean 3 out of the last 11 years he's made it to the NCAA championship game without a single conference title. Not shabby. Since Walz first broke through to the NCAA final as an assistant in 2006, only UCONN (6 wins) and Notre Dame (4 runners-up) have made it to more NCAA championship games than one of his teams (1 win as assistant, 2 runners-up).

UCONN is in a class of its own.

I think Notre Dame during this stretch has been in its own class too.

And I hardly intend to rank Walz's accomplishments as better than titles won by Tenn, Baylor, and Texas A&M during the same 11 year stretch. But I also hardly intend to diminish his or his team's accomplishments by suggesting their attention should be properly elsewhere before thinking they could run with the big dog.

To shift my own attention to others' remarks on Walz:

Walz often gets a hard time on this board. So it's nice to read in this thread some pushback on the criticism of his recruiting. This pushback doesn't simply acknowledge the (gasp!) possible legitimacy of his style but also grants the players who have begun flocking to him a level of (the horror!) intelligence, consciousness, and responsibility for their decisions. Intelligence, consciousness and responsibility that aren't granted in the infantilizing suggestions that players and their families who walk eyes wide open into his system are, in fact, bamboozled by him.

I would think it's actually MORE of a credit to Walz that increasingly higher caliber players have begun flocking to him DESPITE the fullness of his roster, the apparent fullness at their position, and the consequent possibility of a later transfer. I imagine they know him, Louisville, and the rewards of competing not just alongside other Louisville players but against them (e.g. for playing time) better than I could from my couch or keyboard. For most those rewards last 4 years, and for some those rewards last only 1 or 2. This is the case with many competitive teams.

I didn't think I'd write an apology for Walz today. And again: No T no shade. But fandom isn't mutually exclusive with generous recognition of what other teams are doing and have done.
 
But unless speaking strictly chronologically (during a season a team will, as a calendrical fact, meet its conference opponents before meeting UCONN in the NCAAs), it's also hyperbolic to suggest a team "should be worrying" about winning conference titles before challenging for an NCAA title.

Nice essay, but you're taking what I said too literally. Of course, Louisville should be attempting to win the NC every year.

What I really mean is that there is that it is unreasonable to say that Louisville "is likely best set to become the new best challenge to Auriemma" when they cannot consistently beat other top teams. They failed to reach the ACC tournament final. They lost in the NCAA 2nd round on their home floor. They finished #15 in Sagarin. In terms of performance and achievement they are lagging well behind teams like ND, Baylor, and South Carolina over the last couple years.

They recruit well but are they really significantly out-recruiting those schools, if at all? Baylor gets that WBCA POY, Cox. ND gets the Naismith POY, Young, and the Gatorade POY, Boley. SC gets two five-star transfers in Gray and Davis. So what makes anyone think they will surpass those schools?

I guess what I really meant is that their fans should refrain from bragging about how they're going to be the best team to challenge UConn until they win...anything. Beat ND once (which they could very possibly do this year!) and maybe I'll change my tune. But I have to see on the court first.
 
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