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Message: [QUOTE="intlzncster, post: 3471520, member: 56"] He doesn't have great hops. He's not that fast or quick. First step isn't great. Gilbert is waaaay more athletic for example. What he is is strong, which alone doesn't mean athletic--Carlton is strong too, and he's a negative athlete. He has pretty good balance. And he's got insane instincts on the boards which is why he gets so many boards. His hands are like spidermans. Ball just sticks to them. Good strength their as well. [/QUOTE]