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Could the Mountain West and Pac-12 merge into a single, 16-team conference?

noeynox said:
They take all the MWC teams into the PAC then there is no one to pay exit fees to no?
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Yes but then you get a lot of dead weight. They may have no choice, but preferred option would be to get enough teams to dissolve the MW but no more.
 
what if the best of the remaining schools nationwide merge and get okay but not perfect tv deal. if uconn has no home for football we may want to consider.
 
LoyalFanCT said:
what if the best of the remaining schools nationwide merge and get okay but not perfect tv deal. if uconn has no home for football we may want to consider.
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I asked this in another thread. Seems logical to me. If there are enough “leftovers” can’t we get a deal that’s better than we have even if not up to BIG standards?
 
Husky92 said:
I asked this in another thread. Seems logical to me. If there are enough “leftovers” can’t we get a deal that’s better than we have even if not up to BIG standards?
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It also can be added to when the ACC implodes.
 
I’m personally watching Wazzu. They got torched by a fellow state U and has basically no hope going forward. They have nothing to lose.
 
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huskymedic said:
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9 of the 12 schools need to leave to dissolve the Mtn West so as not to pay exit fees. might as well take em all at the point unless the PAC 4 want to screw over Hawaii, San Jose St, and Utah St like they just got screwed over.
 
bendm said:
9 of the 12 schools need to leave to dissolve the Mtn West so as not to pay exit fees. might as well take em all at the point unless the PAC 4 want to screw over Hawaii, San Jose St, and Utah St like they just got screwed over.
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If true then you have laid out the most probable scenario, get nine teams to move in unison.
 
The four remaining PAC 12 schools should invite the top 6 WCC schools and SDSU plus Fresno State. Makes the most sense for all Olympic sports.

For football, send football only offers to UConn, UMass and Army. Solves the lack of visibility in the east coast and limits crazy travel to one sport.

This of course is half in jest.
 
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bendm said:
9 of the 12 schools need to leave to dissolve the Mtn West so as not to pay exit fees. might as well take em all at the point unless the PAC 4 want to screw over Hawaii, San Jose St, and Utah St like they just got screwed over.
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I see it the other way. Allow the 4 remaining PAC schools to merge into the MW. The MW is not in trouble, They don't need those "orphans." What's left of the PAC has zero bargaining power and an inept commissioner. The MW conference MUST remain united and firm on this merger possibility. Let the PAC come groveling to you, not the other way around.
 
How Sway?! said:
The four remaining PAC 12 schools should invite the top 6 WCC schools and SDSU plus Fresno State. Makes the most sense for all Olympic sports.

For football, send football only offers to UConn, UMass and Army. Solves the lack of visibility in the east coast and limits crazy travel to one sport.

This of course is half in jest.
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Yeah....I was laughing before I finished reading the first sentence. :D
 
Carnac said:
I see it the other way. Allow the 4 remaining PAC schools to merge into the MW. The MW is not in trouble, They don't need those "orphans." What's left of the PAC has zero bargaining power and an inept commissioner. The MW conference MUST remain united and firm on this merger possibility. Let the PAC come groveling to you, not the other way around.
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philospohically i agree, but the OP stated "abandoning the Pac-12 could leave behind tens of millions of dollars in College Football Playoff and NCAA Tournament distributions, along with a seat at the table of college sports’ powerbrokers as an “autonomous five” — aka Power 5 — conference." I disagree with the last part, whether you call it the PAC or MW shouldnt matter theyd be the 5th best conference regardless, but leaving all that money on the table is a legit consideration
 
djct1999 said:
This is really sad for Stanford. Can’t wait for the Cardinal to play colorado state on the cw on a Tuesday. Ugh.

Fwiw, this is the equivalent to the acc taking James Madison and app state.
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As a Uconn fan, it's been a while since we've seen schools get dumped on our island of conference purgatory.
 
huskymedic said:
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WY needs to be out there advocating for status quo, because if anyone gets dropped it’s gonna be them.

But it’s short sighted to say PAC 2.0 is not a P5. Don’t get me wrong, it isn’t, but they should at least argue like crazy that it is. With Boise and a couple others, there are teams that could be respectable in the CFP. There’s no reason to voluntarily give up their seat — let the others have take it away.
 
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->An initiative led by San Diego State to essentially create a new conference that would have sought "Power Five" designation in the aftermath of radical conference realignment failed this week, sources tell CBS Sports.

SDSU president Adela de la Torre was leading a push to assemble what would have amounted to a breakaway of the best schools from the Mountain West and American conferences along with some combination of Pac-12 leftovers California, Stanford, Oregon State and Washington State, sources said.

However, the idea died after Monday night after Mountain West presidents held a call that ended with the leadership showing unity. <-

-> "Does it make sense to take the best of the American, remaining Pac and best of the Mountain West and create a new conference that [would] potentially fight for A5 designation? In general, I think it does," an industry source said. "I just am not sure what value that would bring from a network standpoint. ESPN and Fox … have already spent their money." <-
 
huskymedic said:
->An initiative led by San Diego State to essentially create a new conference that would have sought "Power Five" designation in the aftermath of radical conference realignment failed this week, sources tell CBS Sports.
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and then there were 3 (options for Cal & Stanford):

1) join the MW
2) join the ACC
3) indy for football and join WCC for all other sports
 
bendm said:
and then there were 3 (options for Cal & Stanford):

1) join the MW
2) join the ACC
3) indy for football and join WCC for all other sports
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I don't believe the PAC leftovers are so eager to join the G5 ranks. For Stanford and Cal, if the ACC doesn't work out, option 3 looks pretty appealing.
 
WestCoastHusky said:
I don't believe the PAC leftovers are so eager to join the G5 ranks. For Stanford and Cal, if the ACC doesn't work out, option 3 looks pretty appealing.
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right now the MW tv deal nets $4 milly per school. i think they could bump that up a couple mill by adding the PAC 4.

would stanford or cal get more than $5-7 mill from NBC or a streamer? i highly doubt it.

does the WCC even have a tv deal to supplement an indy football tv deal?
 
huskymedic said:


->An initiative led by San Diego State to essentially create a new conference that would have sought "Power Five" designation in the aftermath of radical conference realignment failed this week, sources tell CBS Sports.

SDSU president Adela de la Torre was leading a push to assemble what would have amounted to a breakaway of the best schools from the Mountain West and American conferences along with some combination of Pac-12 leftovers California, Stanford, Oregon State and Washington State, sources said.

However, the idea died after Monday night after Mountain West presidents held a call that ended with the leadership showing unity. <-

-> "Does it make sense to take the best of the American, remaining Pac and best of the Mountain West and create a new conference that [would] potentially fight for A5 designation? In general, I think it does," an industry source said. "I just am not sure what value that would bring from a network standpoint. ESPN and Fox … have already spent their money." <-
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In theory I like this move. Everyone has been hopping from conference to conference and it's been a joke except for a few programs like UCF. Go out and create a new conference with the best available programs rather than hope to be invited into a conference which already has dead weight. It wouldn't be a power conference but it would have been better than the MW. Still interested to see what happens to Oregon St and Washington St.
 
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huskymedic said:
www.cbssports.com

San Diego State fails in attempt to create new 'Power Five' conference with Pac-12, Mountain West, AAC members

SDSU denies that it unsuccessfully tried to rally a group of major programs into a new league
www.cbssports.com www.cbssports.com

->An initiative led by San Diego State to essentially create a new conference that would have sought "Power Five" designation in the aftermath of radical conference realignment failed this week, sources tell CBS Sports.

SDSU president Adela de la Torre was leading a push to assemble what would have amounted to a breakaway of the best schools from the Mountain West and American conferences along with some combination of Pac-12 leftovers California, Stanford, Oregon State and Washington State, sources said.

However, the idea died after Monday night after Mountain West presidents held a call that ended with the leadership showing unity. <-

-> "Does it make sense to take the best of the American, remaining Pac and best of the Mountain West and create a new conference that [would] potentially fight for A5 designation? In general, I think it does," an industry source said. "I just am not sure what value that would bring from a network standpoint. ESPN and Fox … have already spent their money." <-
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Interesting reaction...

John David Wicker @jdwicker 17h
My statement regarding the recent CBS Sports - News, Live Scores, Schedules, Fantasy Games, Video and more. article: The first two paragraphs of this article contain numerous false or misleading statements. SDSU has been actively involved in conference realignment discussions before and after the latest round of Pac-12 (1/2)

John David Wicker @jdwicker 17h
defections. However, SDSU has not sought to create a new conference or seek A5 status for a new conference. SDSU has had no communication with the American Athletic Conference, nor any of its member institutions. SDSU continues to be an active participant with the Mountain(2/3)

John David Wicker @jdwicker 17h
Conference as the conference assesses the best path forward during this turbulent time in our industry.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
And in a streaming world, they don’t need to find channel space on ESPN or Fox. They can just go direct. One of the problems they would have to consider is the regional nature of an ivy streaming service, but Stanford and Cal, and say Rice, solve that. This would be a platform for streaming games, so they don’t need to play each other in every sport, even football.

If Stanford, Cal, Rice, the service academies and Ivies were all on the streaming platform, and it was marketed as a return to the true “student athlete” roots of college athletics, any “elite” university that wasn’t on it might as well be Auburn as far as that schools’ alumni would be concerned.

It is a conversation worth having.
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The best solution for Stanford and Cal that I have seen.
 
If FOX/BIG don't bring in Stanford/Cal they will rue the day.

Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
The best solution for Stanford and Cal that I have seen.
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This is Stanford and Cal's best solution (assuming no P4 invite):
Go independent in football (will be seen as P4 equivalent by media)
Make agreement with OSU and WSU to leave league for MW but allow Stanford and Cal to keep Pac X branding in exchange for allowing OSU and WSU to keep NCAA tournament credits on way out the door.

Create Pac-8 (good Olympic sports and academic league- the Western Ivy)

Cal
Stanford
UC Santa Barbara
UC Davis
UC Irvine
UC San Diego
UC Riverside
Hawaii
 
shizzle787 said:
This is Stanford and Cal's best solution (assuming no P4 invite):
Go independent in football (will be seen as P4 equivalent by media)
Make agreement with OSU and WSU to leave league for MW but allow Stanford and Cal to keep Pac X branding in exchange for allowing OSU and WSU to keep NCAA tournament credits on way out the door.

Create Pac-8 (good Olympic sports and academic league- the Western Ivy)

Cal
Stanford
UC Santa Barbara
UC Davis
UC Irvine
UC San Diego
UC Riverside
Hawaii
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I kinda like it
 
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