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Message: [QUOTE="diggerfoot, post: 3500669, member: 1673"] I offer this as the other side of the story you seldom hear. First, just as humans work fast to make the virus less deadly, the virus is doing the same thing. Viruses survive via hosts; the better hosts survive the better a virus survives. When you hear "mutating virus" the instinct is that they are out to get us like some alien race, but the opposite is true. This allegedly is a fast mutating virus, which should mean it is "learning" quickly to adapt to its new host. Over time it may have the same fatality rates as the flu ... or measles. I bring up measles because a person in this country is ten to hundred times more like to die from contracting measles, depending on which USA dataset you pay attention to (Japan's is pretty definite at 0.03%, or far less than the chance to die from childbirth in this country. Our fatality figures have ranged from the lowest I've seen at 0.2% to as high as 3%). An underdeveloped country's fatality rate from measles can range from 10-25%. When you see alarming world death tolls from measles it is chiefly due to underdeveloped countries with poor environmental conditions and immune systems. Those figures reveal that when it comes to infectious diseases immune systems matter a great deal. Ours suck big time for a developed country. One thing people should be working on before a second peak arrives in the fall is adopting a lifestyle that will boost your immune system to survive infection. This is at least as responsible a thing to do as social distancing, but no where near as easy a responsibility and no authority I've heard even brings it up when calling for us to be responsible. As for mass gathering prolonging the infection, actually the opposite is true. Mass gatherings will speed the infection rate with the two consequences being death or immunity. Previous infection, in fact, will achieve herd immunity quicker and more thoroughly than vaccinations. There is still a chance of infection after vaccination; there is less so from previous infection as the antibody count is higher. The problem, of course, is all the deaths, particularly in a country with lacking immune systems, plus overwhelming resources to the extreme, causing even more deaths. In the end, the goal is to get towards herd immunity without overwhelming deaths or overwhelming our resources. To get a better idea of all this I suggest researching what other countries are doing to achieve herd immunity and comparing their successes or lack thereof. [/QUOTE]

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