Could our defense get any more vanilla?

[Palatine]

We sit in the base defense and never move presnap. If we are going to blitz we usually tip it. Then after we tip it, we never back out of the blitz. We run the same cover zero blitz every time an opponent gets to our 20 yard line and run the same blitz over and over. A baby could plan for our defensive tendencies.

 

[Husky68]

And you just figured this out? Next thing you'll be say'n is our offense is predictable and a baby could plan for our offensive schemes.

 

[SubbaBub]

A baby could outrun our players to the edge.

 

[huskysupporter]

It’s one of those things I never understood - we do not have much talent in defense, there aren’t going to be many one on one battles won in pass rush situations. So bring pressure. Will you whiff sometimes? No question. But look at our defense now. We aren’t winning most matchups anyway. Bring Coyle off the edge on a blitz. Show it, doesn’t have to be disguised either. Hit the A gaps hard with two players. Doesn’t matter. Don’t let a qb get comfortable.

 

[ibleedhuskyblue]

A baby could outrun our players to the edge.

This wouldn't matter so much if they didn't know where we were going before we got there.

 

[GridironGR8]

A baby could outrun our players to the edge.

Unfortunately I think a baby would have greater accuracy and game awareness than any of our current crop of quarterbacks. Sure, our QB's will improve with experience, but babies grow by leaps and bounds also.

 

[Rocktheworld]

Maybe once the defense figures out their base defense we can start disguising things

 

[gioff2323]

You disguise things when you have things to disguise - what exactly are you thinking we should disguise?

 

[Dream Jobbed 2.0]

BYard: our players are young, slow, weak, and can’t comprehend and execute our basic defense schemes.
Also BYard: why don’t we play a complicated defense that requires strong, smart, fast play?

 

[gioff2323]

In fairness, I do see us getting stronger, smarter and faster, just not at the pace that we had hoped or want.

And until they ramp that up further, the O remains relatively vanilla. No way, HCRE wants to return to coaching 70-31 games, no matter what the fans say.

 

[huskysupporter]

BYard: our players are young, slow, weak, and can’t comprehend and execute our basic defense schemes.
Also BYard: why don’t we play a complicated defense that requires strong, smart, fast play?

they can’t execute the vanilla schemes because they aren’t good athletes. Has nothing to do with comprehension.

and what makes you think defense that use the blitz are complicated. It’s an additional word(s) in the defensive call. For example if they add thunder to the call d end knows he is crashing hard inside.

 

[BlueDogs]

they can’t execute the vanilla schemes because they aren’t good athletes. Has nothing to do with comprehension.

and what makes you think defense that use the blitz are complicated. It’s an additional word(s) in the defensive call. For example if they add thunder to the call d end knows he is crashing hard inside.

Disagree a bit. There are a ton of read keys which dictate where they position themselves, shade and go. They include TE, Slot, FB, HB, QB and WO alignments, and their and OL movements off the snap. Each player has his own key reads that work in concert with others. When Edsall says “do your job” that’s what he means. Get to where you belong and execute. If somebody misses his “assignment” then things go bad. You work out of base defensive sets and adjust week to week on keys and assignments based on your opponents personnel, offensive tendencies and associated strengths and weaknesses. What I have maintained and believe is there is a big difference between good athletes and great football players. Good football players more than compensate for speed and even strength with better on field intelligence and skill. Football is not a track meet. Our DBs are athletes and can run fine. They can’t anticipate, take good angles, can’t get around on a pass or tackle very well.

 

[huskysupporter]

Disagree a bit. There are a ton of read keys which dictate where they position themselves, shade and go. They include TE, Slot, FB, HB, QB and WO alignments, and their and OL movements off the snap. Each player has his own key reads that work in concert with others. When Edsall says “do your job” that’s what he means. Get to where you belong and execute. If somebody misses his “assignment” then things go bad. You work out of base defensive sets and adjust week to week on keys and assignments based on your opponents personnel, offensive tendencies and associated strengths and weaknesses. What I have maintained and believe is there is a big difference between good athletes and great football players. Good football players more than compensate for speed and even strength with better on field intelligence and skill. Football is not a track meet. Our DBs are athletes and can run fine. They can’t anticipate, take good angles, can’t get around on a pass or tackle very well.

I think we disagree how difficult this is for division one football players. Your first few sentences are taught in high school. We also disagree on how athletic our players are. It’s not just being in position it’s being able to breakdown and wrap up. Some of our players (okay, a lot) look like they are in quicksand.

 

[Palatine]

BYard: our players are young, slow, weak, and can’t comprehend and execute our basic defense schemes.
Also BYard: why don’t we play a complicated defense that requires strong, smart, fast play?

Straw man. Never said by anyone.

 

[CTMike]

Straw man. Never said by anyone.

You more than anyone here are oblivious to our glaring lack of FBS talent. If only coach remembered to teach the magic tackling words, everything would come together!

 

[Husky68]

You more than anyone here are oblivious to our glaring lack of FBS talent. If only coach remembered to teach the magic tackling words, everything would come together!

You more than anyone here are oblivious to our lack of FBS level coaching talent. If only the players would just take the schemes and then execute them (while of course maintaining good eye discipline).

 

[CTMike]

You more than anyone here are oblivious to our lack of FBS level coaching talent. If only the players would just take the schemes and then execute them (while of course maintaining good eye discipline).

Can’t it be both?

 

[uconnyankee]

We sit in the base defense and never move presnap. If we are going to blitz we usually tip it. Then after we tip it, we never back out of the blitz. We run the same cover zero blitz every time an opponent gets to our 20 yard line and run the same blitz over and over. A baby could plan for our defensive tendencies.

I think our players all counting out loud "1 mississippi, 2 mississippi..." and then yelling BLITZ isn't helping either.