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Can you get any more American than Bronko Nagurski from Rainy River Ontario?
 
DobbsRover2 said:
Can you get any more American than Bronko Nagurski from Rainy River Ontario?
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Yes, James Francis "Jim" Thorpe, of the Sac and Fox Nation in Oklahoma.

From Wiki:

Thorpe grew up in the Sac and Fox Nation in Oklahoma. He played as part of several all American Indian teams throughout his career, and "barnstormed" as a professional basketball player with a team composed entirely of American Indians.

From 1920 to 1921, Thorpe was nominally the first president of the American Professional Football Association (APFA), which would become the National Football League (NFL) in 1922.

I don't think you can get any more "American" than Jim.
 
Aluminny69 said:
Yes, but as has been pointed out, next year we gain four players while only losing two. so, by sheer numbers, playing time will be harder to come by next year. Will she be happy playing in these "meaningless" games, while watching the "big" games from the bench?
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I guess I have a different definition of "meaningless" for bench players. You obviously mean that the game has no meaning since UCONN has such a huge lead and anything these bench players do has no meaning to the outcome of the game.

I see it as time spent on the court developing skills with teammates, coming up to the speed of a college game versus a high school game, working on Geno's plays under fire and working with the starters to learn their tendencies they might not see during practice. They get to view film to learn from their mistakes and reinforce their accomplishments. I don't find any of this "meaningless."
 
Aluminny69 said:
I hope you're not implying that I said that, because I didn't, and I agree with you. But, UConn currently starts virtually five All American players, and that's an incredibly high level of play.
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Not you specifically, but you were seeming to support some of those who did say that in this thread. True, but that's starters. We also have reserves and Div 1. Deciding Ekmark can't play at "this level" (whatever level that is), already in her career is premature.

Aluminny69 said:
By your standards, we really don't need to concern ourselves with anything related to this team. :rolleyes:
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Well, really now that you mention it, we don't. It's not like we, as fans can do anything about it.
Aluminny69 said:
Soooo, are you prepared for the snow coming this weekend?
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It's gonna miss us/me. Stay east (and south) along the coast.

I hope. :(
 
I try never to say anything harsh about other posters. But the post that "she can't play at this level" defies common-sense. What is your background that allows you to say this? Have you been a D1 coach for thirty years? Apparently, Geno thinks she can play at this level because he is playing her. At worst, the jury is still out because of all the time Courtney has missed. Lighten up and give her the benefit of the doubt.
 
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ballhawk said:
I try never to say anything harsh about other posters. But the post that "she can't play at this level" defies common-sense. What is your background that allows you to say this? Have you been a D1 coach for thirty years? Apparently, Geno thinks she can play at this level because he is playing her. At worst, the jury is still out because of all the time Courtney has missed. Lighten up and give her the benefit of the doubt.
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Ultimately, giving Courtney the benefit of the doubt is probably less important than a poster's awareness that s/he may not have the expertise to draw certain conclusions.
 
Aluminny69 said:
Which begs the question, can a Canadian become an All American? just wonderin'
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Uh, Canadians either get a kick out of, or get POed over, US citizens arrogating the term Americans unto themselves alone. Just saying.
 
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Aluminny69 said: ↑
<<Which begs the question, can a Canadian become an All American? just wonderin'>>
StewieFan:
<<Yes as long as she spends her money here.>>

After checking with the Economics Dept...
She couldn't become an All-American, but would be considered a 97%-American... depending on the current exchange rate.
(She should, also, be listed as 5'-10 9/10" on the programs.)
 
manfredonia said:
She is probably a nice kid, BUT she can't play at this level.
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What makes you such an expert? You need to give this young lady a chance to show what she brings to the table. Courtney just got clearance to play so it is understandable that she is a little rusty.
 
ballhawk said:
I try never to say anything harsh about other posters. But the post that "she can't play at this level" defies common-sense. What is your background that allows you to say this? Have you been a D1 coach for thirty years? Apparently, Geno thinks she can play at this level because he is playing her. At worst, the jury is still out because of all the time Courtney has missed. Lighten up and give her the benefit of the doubt.
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Geno said essentially this on the Geno show last night, which was of course shot before, and probably well before last night. He also reiterated that the #1 rated stars who come into their freashman year on the team are invariably clueless, so in fairness and trusting in Geno early assesments are too early period. In that Geno show he also liked Eck to a grape, not yet ripened let alone bottled! Stewie, she's in the bottle, but it remains to be see if it will be a vintage bottle; Stewie's self graded B+ for this year is too generous per Geno. So, Geno is very tough, but he's not about to make a final judgment about one of his freshman. Neither should we. That is not blind fandom; that's common sense.
 
RockyMTblue2 said:
Uh, Canadians either get a kick out of, or get POed over, US citizens arrogating the term Americans unto themselves alone. Just saying.
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This reminds of the time in the 60s when our college team was travelling to British Columbia for a game. The Canadian border guy enters the bus..looks around..then asks "Are you all americans?"..after a brief silence, one of our reserves stands up and says "No, but our (point guard) was all conference":)
 
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UOTE="meyers7, post: 1201627, member: 343"]Why?[/QUOTE]
Because they are not competitive. I would much rather see them playing against teams that they get a little competition from than 50 point blowouts all of the time. I fine myself rooting for the other team to score every once in a while. I wonder if sooner or later when they play against a team that's giving them a tighter game if it's not going to come back to bite them. I guess I really shouldn't be worried about that though because from what I've seen from other teams play I don't think anyone in the country right now can beat them.
 
StewieFan:
<<..from what I've seen from other teams play I don't think anyone in the country right now can beat them.>>

Conceivably, this might include the 2015 NY Knicks.
 
manfredonia said:
She is probably a nice kid, BUT she can't play at this level.
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That opinion is based on what?
Comparing her play to that of the starters?
Watching a few combined minutes of game play after the kid had no team ball last year and a stress injury this year.
You really think they would offer her a scholarship if she couldn't play at this level?
Her work ethic is great by all reports. That's why should took last year off to work on conditioning and basketball drills.
Let's re-visit this topic next season and see if you think she 'belongs". My money is on a huge improvement.
 
manfredonia said:
She is probably a nice kid, BUT she can't play at this level.
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Your problem here, manfredonia, is that you've made a hit-and-run post.

We encourage a balanced set of opinions on this board, and a current point of emphasis is that those expressing negative opinions are not to be subjected to squelching attempts through various forms of personal attack.

But if you state a conclusory opinion passing judgment on a player's entire career, with no substantive elaboration or explanation, you shouldn't be surprised if you reap a lot of disapproving responses.

Those in this thread are relatively civil, I'm glad to say, and their overall point is well taken.
 
sarals24 said:
I'm sure there were people who thought Maria Conlon couldn't play at this level. And she's got three national championships.
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Two of them as a starter.

What "this level" is is itself a matter of speculation. I recall Ketia saying something to the effect, "I didn't even start at UConn And I've played five years in the WNBA."

Speaking of "All-Americans", wasn't Svetlana Abrosimova?
 
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rocky rococo said:
Two of them as a starter.

What "this level" is is itself a matter of speculation. I recall Ketia saying something to the effect, "I didn't even start at UConn And I've played five years in the WNBA."

Speaking of "All-Americans", wasn't Svetlana Abrosimova?
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Definitely All-Russian, but that's alllllllllll right.
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sarals24 said:
I'm sure there were people who thought Maria Conlon couldn't play at this level. And she's got three national championships.
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Just curious. Do you think Maria Conlon could start, or even play significant minutes on this current year's or next year's UConn team?

P.S. Personally, I don't see Conlon getting three NCs without DT, but hey, that's just me.
 
From about the 15:00 mark in the 2nd half, when the score was 74-27, to the end of the game, UConn out scored UCF 36 - 18 without ever having more than one starter on the floor. Wow! Is the rest of wcbb trembling?
 
Aluminny69 said:
Just curious. Do you think Maria Conlon could start, or even play significant minutes on this current year's or next year's UConn team?

P.S. Personally, I don't see Conlon getting three NCs without DT, but hey, that's just me.
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Nope, her eligibility ran out in 2004.

Maria could hit a three once in a while, especially when UTenn left her open, but she shot them at 37% which would be a little under this year's exceptional group that has KML, MoJeff, and Kia blistering the nets but which would have fit in well last year. Maria's focus was being the co-PG to DT and she complemented her beautifully, with an assist per game rate in the last two years that would put her 2nd on this year's team. Who knows how many NCs DT wins without Maria, but maybe that's just me.

Different times, different circumstances. Kara Wolters says she wouldn't start and might not even make this year's team, and she's a former NPOY. Maria like Courtney would have her place on this year's team if nothing else because of her work ethic. Might not ever get to be a starter, but when you have one of the most dominant team-wrecking players in Kiah Stokes on the bench for the Huskies, that's not a bad place to say you warmed your buns.
 
I don't get all the crap this girl gets. Almost no one said any of this stuff about Sadie even when she left. Ekmark has missed a lot of time. To write her off at this point is insane. Has she done some bone head plays? yah. is she a freshmen playing her first few games after being out almost half the season? yes. give her a year and reevaluate. I cant believe people are saying she can not play at this level after a handful of games!
 
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Aluminny69 said:
Which begs the question, can a Canadian become an All American? just wonderin'
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Yes. Svet was and she is a RUSSIAN!!!! * I am of Russian decent so I love to joke about that.
 
Aluminny69 said:
Just curious. Do you think Maria Conlon could start, or even play significant minutes on this current year's or next year's UConn team?

P.S. Personally, I don't see Conlon getting three NCs without DT, but hey, that's just me.
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Honestly, I DO see Conlon getting substantial minutes on this team. Chong is still young and learning, and I'd take Conlon off the bench instead of Chong. Maria was incredibly steady, very solid with the ball, a good passer, and a very decent spot up 3 point shooter. Defensively she moved "well" for her physical stature. She was just a steady and consistent hand at running the team...

As for the 2nd part of your post, DUH! :p no one on that teams gets 3 NC's without Dee! She was amazing!
 
Maria was slow and short but she was a decent shooter, totally unflappable and the helluva passer.
 
Aluminny69 said:
Just curious. Do you think Maria Conlon could start, or even play significant minutes on this current year's or next year's UConn team?

P.S. Personally, I don't see Conlon getting three NCs without DT, but hey, that's just me.
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Of course not Vin and I don't think that's what TOP was saying. But she sure was a BIG integral part of those teams.
 
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