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Message: [QUOTE="Los24, post: 3001846, member: 7629"] I think you make good points. Only thing I would say is that even if Mantle could have been more great (greater) he was still great. You can say the same about the Babe the way he drank, ate and the poor physical condition he played in.... To be honest I would have to go through a list and see where she falls in but can see where you (and others) push her down to 10-15 based on the greats we have seen. Her story is still being written and if she shows that other thing you can't describe to lead this team to a title then it will get interesting. Talking about, "I think they have to have talent and work ethic and that other something else that I can't describe." If I am honest, the last I get where you want more from Lou. I can try to describe it but it unfortunate looks like what Ogunbowale showed at the end of both FF games and last weeks LV game. [/QUOTE]