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SEC ... 6-2 ... 5-1 ... 1-1 ... 12-4
ACC ... 6-2 ... 3-3 .... 1-0 ... 10-5
AAC ... 2-0 ... 2-0 .... 1-0 .... 5-0
B12 ... 4-2 ... 2-2 .... 1-1 .... 7-5
B10 ... 5-0 ... 1-4 .... 0-0 .... 6-4
PAC ... 4-1 ... 1-3 .... 0-0 .... 5-4
BgE ... 2-0 ... 1-1 .... 0-1 .... 3-2
Oth ... 3-25 .. 1-2 .... 0-1 .... 4-28
 
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ACC now leads. #4 ACC d #1 SEC twice.
Turns out the SEC was brutal ... if you were in the 2nd ten.

ACC .. 6-2 ... 3-3 ... 3-0 ... 12-5
SEC .. 6-2 ... 5-1 ... 1-4 ... 12-7
AAC .. 2-0 ... 2-0 ... 2-0 .... 6-0
B12 .. 4-2 ... 2-2 ... 1-1 .... 7-5
PAC .. 4-1 ... 1-3 ... 1-0 .... 6-4
B10 .. 5-0 ... 1-4 ... 0-1 .... 6-5
BgE .. 2-0 ... 1-1 ... 0-1 .... 3-2
Oth .. 3-25 .. 1-2 ... 0-1 .... 4-28
 
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ACC now leads. #4 ACC d #1 SEC twice.
Turns out the SEC was brutal ... if you were in the 2nd ten.

ACC ... 6-2 ... 3-3 .... 3-0 ... 12-5
SEC ... 6-2 ... 5-1 .... 1-4 ... 12-7
AAC ... 2-0 ... 2-0 .... 2-0 .... 5-0
B12 ... 4-2 ... 2-2 .... 1-1 .... 7-5
PAC ... 4-1 ... 1-3 .... 1-0 .... 6-4
B10 ... 5-0 ... 1-4 .... 0-1 .... 6-5
BgE ... 2-0 ... 1-1 .... 0-1 .... 3-2
Oth ... 3-25 .. 1-2 .... 0-1 .... 4-28

AAC is 6-0
 

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What are you - a math genius or something?!:cool:

;)

Would you like me to do vowelguy's chart in hexadecimal or octal or binary or...
 

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ACC now leads. #4 ACC d #1 SEC twice.
Turns out the SEC was brutal ... if you were in the 2nd ten.

ACC ... 6-2 ... 3-3 .... 3-0 ... 12-5
SEC ... 6-2 ... 5-1 .... 1-4 ... 12-7
AAC ... 2-0 ... 2-0 .... 2-0 .... 6-0
B12 ... 4-2 ... 2-2 .... 1-1 .... 7-5
PAC ... 4-1 ... 1-3 .... 1-0 .... 6-4
B10 ... 5-0 ... 1-4 .... 0-1 .... 6-5
BgE ... 2-0 ... 1-1 .... 0-1 .... 3-2
Oth ... 3-25 .. 1-2 .... 0-1 .... 4-28

My take from this is that the SEC, B10 and PAC were given too much credit, B12 and BgE were represented/seeded about right while the ACC and AAC (especially given USF and Rutgers performance so far in WNIT) were underrepresented.

Today's results should certainly squash the notion that the SEC is the best conference.
 

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My take from this is that the SEC, B10 and PAC were given too much credit, B12 and BgE were represented/seeded about right while the ACC and AAC (especially given USF and Rutgers performance so far in WNIT) were underrepresented.

Today's results should certainly squash the notion that the SEC is the best conference.
The BE has the same winning percentage as the PAC12, so I'm not sure you can claim one was overrated while one was represented/seeded correctly. Also, while Rutgers and USF are doing well in the NIT, neither has yet to defeat an NCAA tourney quality team. Their victories have come against Delaware, Harvard, Seton Hall, NC A&T, Stetson, and George Washington. Next up for USF is Miss. St. (not NCAA tourney material) but Rutgers faces a team that should have been in the dance (Bowling Green).
 

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The BE has the same winning percentage as the PAC12, so I'm not sure you can claim one was overrated while one was represented/seeded correctly. Also, while Rutgers and USF are doing well in the NIT, neither has yet to defeat an NCAA tourney quality team. Their victories have come against Delaware, Harvard, Seton Hall, NC A&T, Stetson, and George Washington. Next up for USF is Miss. St. (not NCAA tourney material) but Rutgers faces a team that should have been in the dance (Bowling Green).
Um, so Prairie View was an NCAA material team? And Miss St. just went down to the American's USF, but the MSU Bulldogs previously beat the NCAA teams Georgia and Vanderbilt. So just what are you trying to say? That just because the American teams aren't in your ACC that they aren't worthy? Just clueless.
 

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My take from this is that the SEC, B10 and PAC were given too much credit, B12 and BgE were represented/seeded about right while the ACC and AAC (especially given USF and Rutgers performance so far in WNIT) were underrepresented.

Today's results should certainly squash the notion that the SEC is the best conference.
The Pac10 got a surprise qualifier with USC winning the tournament and I certainly think ASU with their late season swoon should have been borderline - but if you drop USC as a bubble team that won the brass ring out of the equation I think the Pac looks 'respectable' by the numbers.
The ACC ... certainly the top end is doing well, but there really wasn't another team they 'should have' gotten in, and considering that two of their teams got wins over questionable #1 seeds that might well have lost had say Baylor, Stanford, or Louisville been their one seeds - that would also balance them.
I do think the SEC proved that their bottom feeders that got bubble bids really were not worthy. GA and Vandy were not worthy of selection and I don't think TN or SC deserved their #1 seeds, certainly not both.
 

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How about Roman Numerals...oh wait, the Romans didn't have a zero.
I thought the Romans added a Zero... and carried the girl.
Zero Mostel.JPG
 

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Um, so Prairie View was an NCAA material team? And Miss St. just went down to the American's USF, but the MSU Bulldogs previously beat the NCAA teams Georgia and Vanderbilt. So just what are you trying to say? That just because the American teams aren't in your ACC that they aren't worthy? Just clueless.

Dobbs, you could reply to someone without the insults, you know.

I'm not sure what you're arguing. Are you arguing that Miss St. is dance-worthy because during the regular season they beat 2 teams (Georgia and Vanderbilt) that just barely made the bubble? Miss St. went 5-11 in the SEC. Has any team in a Power Conference ever gone 6 games under .500 in conference yet made the tourney as an at-large team?

Or are you arguing that automatic qualifiers are not dance-worthy?

Or are you arguing that teams like USF and Rutgers, which were narrowly on the wrong side of the bubble would have had success in the NCAA tourney (because they have had success in the NIT)? As bubble teams, they would have had to face higher ranked teams than automatic qualifiers like Prairie View. The teams they have defeated thus far did have nearly the resumes of the bubble teams. For example, see HERE. This guy ranks teams with his program to see if they will get an at-large bid. He's not perfect, but he does very well. He actually had Rutgers and Bowling Green getting instead of St. Joseph's and Florida. But the 6 teams defeated by Rutgers and USF thus far are ranked by him accordingly:

56th George Washington
63rd Stetson
76th Harvard
105th NC A&T
115th Delaware
121st Seton Hall

Are you arguing that these teams are similar in quality to the teams they would have had to beat as at-large bubble entries? Their Sagarin ratings are (in order): 77th, 76th, 108th, 124th, 102nd, and 100th.

I would argue that the AAC has 2 elite (FF-caliber) teams this year, 2 teams that were bubble teams, and the rest of the conference was pretty bad. The ACC had 1 elite team, a couple more top 10 teams, and several more ranked 11th-30th (NCAA tourney teams).
 

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So we are presently at

1. AAC 6-0 (1.000) (UCONN, Louisville)
2. ACC 12-5 (.706) (ND, Maryland, UNC)
3. SEC 12-7 (.632) (Texas A&M))
4. Big 12 8-5 (.615) (Baylor)
5. Pac 12 6-4 (.600) (Stanford)
6. Big East 3-2 (.600) (done)
7. Big Ten 6-5 (.545) (done)
 

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So the mighty SEC has now gone 6 years without sending a single team to the Final Four!

During that stretch only 5 conferences have had participants at the Final Four...

Big East 10
B12 5
PAC 6
ACC 2
AAC 1
 
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ACC .. 6-2 ... 3-3 ... 3-0 ... 2-1 ... 14-6
SEC .. 6-2 ... 5-1 ... 1-4 ... 0-1 ... 12-8
AAC .. 2-0 ... 2-0 ... 2-0 ... 1-1 .... 7-1
B12 .. 4-2 ... 2-2 ... 1-1 ... 0-1 .... 7-6
PAC .. 4-1 ... 1-3 ... 1-0 ... 1-0 .... 7-4
B10 .. 5-0 ... 1-4 ... 0-1 ... 0-0 .... 6-5
BgE .. 2-0 ... 1-1 ... 0-1 ... 0-0 .... 3-2
Oth .. 3-25 .. 1-2 ... 0-1 ... 0-0 .... 4-28
 
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TOBE .. 6-0 ... 4-2 ... 3-1 ... 2-1 .... 15-4

UConn 4-0
Notre Dame 4-0
Louisville 3-1
DePaul 2-0
St. John's 1-1
Syracuse 1-1
The Old Big East also had three conference champions this year - UConn, Notre Dame, and DePaul.

One year out, they're still more "Big East" than ACC, etc. The greatest basketball conference ever.
 

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TOBE .. 6-0 ... 4-2 ... 3-1 ... 2-1 .... 15-4

UConn 4-0
Notre Dame 4-0
Louisville 3-1
DePaul 2-0
St. John's 1-1
Syracuse 1-1
The Old Big East also had three conference champions this year - UConn, Notre Dame, and DePaul.

One year out, they're still more "Big East" than ACC, etc. The greatest basketball conference ever.
actually - you left out WV or are using a very short time frame!
 
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