And that’s a joke. PSU is not top 4. Not sure they’re top 10. They’d finish in bottom 1/2 of SEC3 of the top 4 in the polls are Big Ten right now. It really is a power 2.
What they need is a dominant kick @ SS basketball program to shore up the ACC’s past reputation as the premier basketball conference and an OK but improving football program to shore up the rear.I'm sure the ACC is thrilled with the prospect of SMU winning that conference.
The ACC is the next conference that is going to go the way of the PAC-12.What they need is a dominant kick @ SS basketball program to shore up the ACC’s past reputation as the premier basketball conference and an OK but improving football program to shore up the rear.
Isn’t the GOR designed to prevent that, and as far as I know FSU is still in the ACC despite all the lawyers they’ve hired.The ACC is the next conference that is going to go the way of the PAC-12.
The only non-ACC school that meets that criteria that the ACC would take is Kansas, and they're not leaving the Big12.What they need is a dominant kick @ SS basketball program to shore up the ACC’s past reputation as the premier basketball conference and an OK but improving football program to shore up the rear.
Designed to prevent it yes. But won't prevent it for long. FSU and Clemson will inevitably get their way and go to some other conference like the Big 12 because the SEC probably won't take them. If schools like UNC supposedly is a target for the Big 10 if ACC starts to collapse. If I had to guess if FSU and Clemson finds a way out, UNC, Miami, Louisville are all gone as well as the sweetheart deal with ND. So basically it just becomes the original big east plus ACC scraps.Isn’t the GOR designed to prevent that, and as far as I know FSU is still in the ACC despite all the lawyers they’ve hired.
all respect to the SEC but the top 4 have loses to, Arkansas, Vanderbilt, and Kentucky those aren't exactly great compared to Penn State you don't lose 2 games or in the case of Tennessee, have a really bad loss on your schedule and expect to be ranked higher than a team who lost in a fairly competitive matchup to the 2nd ranked team in the country.And that’s a joke. PSU is not top 4. Not sure they’re top 10. They’d finish in bottom 1/2 of SEC
I could make the argument the SEC should get 8 slots. Have you watched any of the 3 u spiked out? 2 would beat PSU and my might if they caught them on the right day. Can you imagine PSU beating Tx, tenn, bama or ole Miss, not to mention uga or LSU or even USCe. Who is pedophile states sig win - the fighting Illini? WVU? Ridiculousall respect to the SEC but the top 4 have loses to, Arkansas, Vanderbilt, and Kentucky those aren't exactly great compared to Penn State you don't lose 2 games or in the case of Tennessee, have a really bad loss on your schedule and expect to be ranked higher than a team who lost in a fairly competitive matchup to the 2nd ranked team in the country.
Where are all these schools going and who is paying for it?Designed to prevent it yes. But won't prevent it for long. FSU and Clemson will inevitably get their way and go to some other conference like the Big 12 because the SEC probably won't take them. If schools like UNC supposedly is a target for the Big 10 if ACC starts to collapse. If I had to guess if FSU and Clemson finds a way out, UNC, Miami, Louisville are all gone as well as the sweetheart deal with ND. So basically it just becomes the original big east plus ACC scraps.
The b12 would absolutely take FSU and Clem. But not sure that’s even a lateral move for Noles and Tigers.Where are all these schools going and who is paying for it?
Oregon/Washington took .50 on the dollar to move and the Calford/SMU moves were almost free. There doesn't seem to be much appetite from ESPN/FOX to throw more money around.
On top of that, it appears that the GOR the ACC has in place is bulletproof. Clemson has basically shut its mouth and backed away while watching FSU continue to embarrass itself on the field, in the real courts and in the court of public opinion. I’m not sure the ACC is going anywhere.
I mean the acc will become irrelevant, it's just a matter of how fast and whose terms.The b12 would absolutely take FSU and Clem. But not sure that’s even a lateral move for Noles and Tigers.
Uconn to the Big 12, makes it the premier basketball conf by a wide margin, with Baylor and Kansas winning the two years before Hurley’s first NC. As for football, with 5 or 6 Big 12 members in the football top 25 with top programs, the Big 12 will be just fine.I mean the acc will become irrelevant, it's just a matter of how fast and whose terms.
Clemson and fsu are fighting the future where they no longer matter. The b12 might stem the tide.
Remember the argument for uconn is that is gives the b12 a bigger stake in basketball when the b10 and sec start to separate from everybody else.
Clemson and fsu will want to be on the liferaft.
Don't you understand, Alabama is the best team in the country because they lost to Vanderbilt who beat Alabama. It's a quality lossall respect to the SEC but the top 4 have loses to, Arkansas, Vanderbilt, and Kentucky those aren't exactly great compared to Penn State you don't lose 2 games or in the case of Tennessee, have a really bad loss on your schedule and expect to be ranked higher than a team who lost in a fairly competitive matchup to the 2nd ranked team in the country.
As much as I'd like bag on Bama the numbers I look at still put them in. The SEC as a whole is down... or possibly just the top but that's lifeDon't you understand, Alabama is the best team in the country because they lost to Vanderbilt who beat Alabama. It's a quality loss
This is exactly it. The P4 conferences have gotten so large that there's no room for anyone else unless they start removing schools first. There's nothing exciting about FSU that the SEC is taking. So the Big 12 goes even larger with more mouths to feed?? You can only split the pie so many ways and with the margin widening between the P2 and the Big 12, I can't imagine many schools wanna split anymore revenue. I also don't see a school like FSU taking a discount rate to make what is basically a lateral move to the Big 12.Where are all these schools going and who is paying for it?
Oregon/Washington took .50 on the dollar to move and the Calford/SMU moves were almost free. There doesn't seem to be much appetite from ESPN/FOX to throw more money around.
On top of that, it appears that the GOR the ACC has in place is bulletproof. Clemson has basically shut its mouth and backed away while watching FSU continue to embarrass itself on the field, in the real courts and in the court of public opinion. I’m not sure the ACC is going anywhere.
I think the SEC is finally finding out that other schools outside of the conference have more money and are doing so. Being the SEC doesn't matter anymore. Who pays the most does. If UConn got a billion dollar sugar daddy, you better believe they're throwing money at a lot of top rated recruits.As much as I'd like bag on Bama the numbers I look at still put them in. The SEC as a whole is down... or possibly just the top but that's life